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cheryl19 06-02-2009 08:38 AM

That is just the kind of dog that I would want too. If I were younger I would get a puppy but for me I would just as soon let some one else do the puppyhood thing for me.
I do have to give the breeders credit for being able to give up their dogs to keep the yorkie line going strong.

dogbert 06-02-2009 08:47 AM

We adopted a breeder release not quite a year ago. She had just turned 4 years old and never knew anything but that life. She has come a long way and we love her to death. Will she ever be a "normal" Yorkie? I don't know, but she's doing her best to trust and learn. It takes alot of patience, she learns fast but she's learning everything from scratch as if she was a new puppy.

Sookie 06-02-2009 10:19 AM

A breeder cannot possibly keep every dog unless she breeds on a very small scale. My breeder neuters her retired breeders and finds wonderful forever homes for them where they get lots of love and attention.

QuickSilver 06-02-2009 02:34 PM

Great thread! I would have thought it was heartless to give up your dogs after they are "used up", but I see now that it doesn't work that way.

I am the second human mommy to Thor, and I believe that loves his new home and his new human just as much (*cough* more *cough*) as his first. I think one of the wonderful things about dogs is how adaptable they are. That's why rescues work. :)

011011 06-12-2009 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by harleyyorkie (Post 2649873)
I too wanted an older Yorkie for my third. Here's my experience. I was looking at Breeders on the internet, came across Gold Dust Yorkies in Holbrook Arizona. They had a 10 1/2 month old neutered male. When I inquired, I was told he was already gone, but they were looking to rehome Rita. According to the breeder, Rita was six years old, had been in the show ring a few times but it just didn't seem to be the dog's thing so they stopped showing her. She had one litter three years ago but had a difficult time so she was spayed. Rita was potty pad trained and never a bother, gets along well with other dogs and very socialized with people. No known health problems, lost a few teeth over the years, (no biggie) and her picture was beautiful. Asking price $300.00 to cover spaying & her last dental. I would get copies of her shot records, health records, AKC papers, etc. Shipping was $350.00 to fly her in a carrier on a lady's lap instead of cargo to Florida. After speaking with the breeder both by telephone and e-mails for two months, the more I heard the more I had to have her! Finally Rita arrived in TAMPA, 2 1/2 hours away from me. They had trouble getting into Fort Myers because the lady that brings them is retired from American Airlines and flys stand by only. I knew @ this and was there waiting for her when she arrived. The lady handed me Rita, no papers, said the breeder would get them to me, she didn't want papers to change hands too much and get lost in the shuffle, and she was gone, said she had to board the flight right away for the return trip. So, I now had my Rita that I had waited so long for.

Rita was just as pretty as her picture, however that's where it ends! Rita has no bottom teeth, so I grind her kibble up for her. Upon having her vet records faxed from the vet in Arizona (couldn't get any paper from breeder) we proceeded to have her checked at our vet. The excessive tearing of her left eye is from her eyelid curling in and rubbing on her eyeball. The limp is from her left leg being 1/4 inch shorter than the right. The snorting & asthma like breathing are from an enlongated soft palate and shorten snout. The curled & twisted back leg is from being in a cramped confined space and laying on the leg for long periods of time, at least that's what my vet says.The tummy hernia was likely from spaying. For the first three days, Rita would not even look at us or the other two dogs. She doesn't run, play with toys, or do anything like normal dogs do.Everytime we would pet her or hold her, she was totally baffled as to why we were doing that. If I had let her she would of only gotten out of her bed to eat. Rita is not potty pad trained, I have bought disposable as well as cloth pads, she loves to lay or sit on them but in the three weeks I've had her, she's never peed on one! Anyway, too late to make a long story short, you get the picture.

I will keep Rita as she is making wonderful progess. I have come to the conclusion that she has never known human affection other that what was required. She very much likes attention and has started to seek it out on her own. After all is said & done, I'm not sorry I got her, we love her to pieces! I would take another rehomed dog but I will have to see it in person first. I still exchange e-mails with the breeder about Rita's progress. I don't think she is a bad person, maybe not such a good dog person. Of course if she ever reads this, she may not talk to me anymore. I wanted to share my experience so others may learn from it.

This absolutely sickens me about how she was kept and suposedly with a GOOD breeder I think not.
Any breeder who keeps them in cages or penned up like that using them to have puppies is considerd a BYB to me.
A upstandable breeder would not do that to one of there females wether it was being used for breeding or not!
I could never do that to one of my girls, I worry when I have to crate mine for pen them up for the afternoon let alone to have them live in those conditions.
I suppose she has no idea what a pee pad is she probably just peeded through wires on her crate to the floor and then probably stood in her own urine and feces.
6 years and no bottom teeth maybe from chewing on the bars or just bad nutrition from having litters. That is very upsetting to me also poor baby girl .
She probably does not know how to play for she has never been played with or given any attention to know what it is like very sad also.
Just keep giving her the love and affection you have and I think she will come around might take a long time but your patience and consistancy will pay off for her and you in the end.
Good luck with her and my best wishes for her to have a wonderful life that she deserves
This lady can have many good reviews but a dog in this condition coming from her speaks for itself!!
I would buy nothing and not recommend her and actually sway buyers from her.

Mardelin 06-12-2009 09:12 AM

Being a breeder/exhibitor it's a hard decision to make, one that I've not had to make. Though I'll never say never, cause it'll come back and bite me for sure. My kids are not raised and kept in crates, other than to sleep...while they are showing, they're kept in x-pens in the house, but allowed to play outside. So, they're pets and show dogs.

Could I do it, if it meant that my girl was going to have the most wonderful life and make someone very happy, probably yes. My girls are retired champions, yes, alot of money went into championing them. However, if I needed to do this, it would probably be for the cost of spay and teeth cleaning.

rebeccag 06-12-2009 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2412081)
I know what you mean. There are a few people on Yorkietalk who I wouldn't mind if they adopted me though!

Cute...

nanahas3 06-12-2009 09:41 AM

I think if a breeder looks into the prospective homes and does their research in the same way they would place a puppy, there is no reason why they should not place their retired breeders. I personally get too attatched so could never be a breeder for this reason (same reason I could never foster either fur or skin babies ) but I do admire those who are able to do this. I think it would be wonderful to be able to give one of these babies a new home especially if they are from reputable breeders and kept in the breeders home and shown love. I believe those who foster and those good breeders who make sure these retired babies have the best forever homes deserve lots of kudos.

ARCHIE 06-12-2009 09:57 AM

I'm hoping that when the time comes I can purchase a retired female.
That's what I was hoping for the first time around but that didn't happen,
I spotted Buddy.
I would be so appriciative and honored to be able to adopt one into our
home. I would have to know the breeder and her background and know
that she was in it for the love of the breed. A serious breeder must go
through such torment having to say goodbye to something she has loved
for a couple of years. I don't hold judgement against breeder's like this.
They have to do what they have to do in order to continue their breeding.
The thought that I would be trusted to love her baby would be an honor.

YorkieAZ 06-12-2009 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 011011 (Post 2666059)
This absolutely sickens me about how she was kept and suposedly with a GOOD breeder I think not.
Any breeder who keeps them in cages or penned up like that using them to have puppies is considerd a BYB to me.
A upstandable breeder would not do that to one of there females wether it was being used for breeding or not!
I could never do that to one of my girls, I worry when I have to crate mine for pen them up for the afternoon let alone to have them live in those conditions.
I suppose she has no idea what a pee pad is she probably just peeded through wires on her crate to the floor and then probably stood in her own urine and feces.
6 years and no bottom teeth maybe from chewing on the bars or just bad nutrition from having litters. That is very upsetting to me also poor baby girl .
She probably does not know how to play for she has never been played with or given any attention to know what it is like very sad also.
Just keep giving her the love and affection you have and I think she will come around might take a long time but your patience and consistancy will pay off for her and you in the end.
Good luck with her and my best wishes for her to have a wonderful life that she deserves
This lady can have many good reviews but a dog in this condition coming from her speaks for itself!!
I would buy nothing and not recommend her and actually sway buyers from her.

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

011011 06-12-2009 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 2666094)
Being a breeder/exhibitor it's a hard decision to make, one that I've not had to make. Though I'll never say never, cause it'll come back and bite me for sure. My kids are not raised and kept in crates, other than to sleep...while they are showing, they're kept in x-pens in the house, but allowed to play outside. So, they're pets and show dogs.

Could I do it, if it meant that my girl was going to have the most wonderful life and make someone very happy, probably yes. My girls are retired champions, yes, alot of money went into championing them. However, if I needed to do this, it would probably be for the cost of spay and teeth cleaning.

I agree I do not think it is a bad thing to rehome a dog.
One of my females who I had spayed and a puppy that I hand raised from birth I gave to my mom .
A male I used I had neuterd teeth cleaned, shots all updated and gave to my son.
Yes we love them like no other but sometimes they deserve a little more than what we can give them like more one on one, more play time and walks etc
And we have to love them enough to do what is best for them and sometimes that is rehoming them.
I would only charge the spay cost to rehome, for my mom and Justin I gave the dogs to them and paid for all of vet bills myself. I just wanted them to be loved and in a great home with alot of attention and that is just what they are getting

yavenay 06-12-2009 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JCali (Post 2412116)
I reread my post, and I feel like I should have added that I am not passing judgment at all. I am actually looking for another dog and this time I want to adopt an older Yorkie that is in need of a home (which is actually what I had wanted to do in the first place lol), which is how the topic came up. Rehoming a retired breeder pup seems understandable to me as long as the breeder works to find it a good home. I am hoping that this info will make my mother feel better about it. Please keep sharing your thoughts about it. :)


I got my Brandi from a byb, she was used for breeding as well and when she could no longer make any money off of her she gave her away. Brandi was kept in a cage all day and was horribly neglected. It cost's me about $1200 to get her healthy again. The breeder was only concerned with making money.

In fact when I went to get her spayed, the vet told me that Brandi had had multiple c-sections. She also said some other stuff which I really don't know how to explain. Something about not having enough of a sack or something like that. Anyway it had something to do with something they do during the spay. Well, when the vet told me what Brandi must have been through, I almost cried right then and there. But Brandi is doing fine now. She has a clean bill of health.

So if you do this, make sure the breeder is reputable. The breeder I got Brandi from was know to this particular vet and didn't have a really good opinion of her. Hopefully the breeder has taken care of her pups and not neglect them the way Brandi was.

molney 06-12-2009 08:19 PM

I have a retired breeder
 
I checked with alot of local breeders when I was looking for a pup, and just asked around. We just got her about 2 months ago, and she is a joy, she is 9 years old but, still has alot of life, she took to our family right away especially my husband, she is on his heels from the time he gets out of bed till its time to go to bed. And if he goes outside she is nervouse the whole time waiting by the window. Which is why I am now looking for a male, because she was supose to be for me.

dogbert 06-13-2009 06:28 AM

I have to say my breeder release was and still is in good health.

lily 06-13-2009 06:42 AM

O my god does it break my heart. I feel like they earned the right to be loved and the only baby. I have a few that well never leave. My sweey prissy that just passed away would have never left us, she was my first. But I can't keep them all.


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