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mina0710 01-09-2009 10:45 AM
Humping
 
My 4.5 month old is humping already - is that normal? I thought they begin that stage at around 7 months ... he only humps my husbands leg. It's so funny!!

Nancy1999 01-09-2009 11:26 AM
Joey humped his toys when he was only 12 weeks old, I thought it was hilarious too, and he had his favorites toys. However, they say you should never allow them to hump a human, this is a sign of dominance, and your yorkie is telling your husband he is dominant. This can cause problems down the road because dogs should understand that all humans are dominant over them. Neutering stopped Joey's humping, but this is not always true. So it might be best if your husband told him No, and gave him a stuffed animal to play with.

terri23 01-09-2009 11:26 AM
i really wouldn't worry about it. He's just being dominate. trying to let your husband know who's in charge of things!!!
it's kind of a competition thing. they're both competing for your attention!!:)

mina0710 01-09-2009 11:30 AM
Really? It's a dominance thing? I had no idea!! I will have to tell him no from now on. He started humping my husband a couple weeks ago and last night he tried to hump my leg too!

Nancy1999 01-09-2009 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by mina0710 (Post 2409871)
Really? It's a dominance thing? I had no idea!! I will have to tell him no from now on. He started humping my husband a couple weeks ago and last night he tried to hump my leg too!
It really gets worse too as they get older. Another sign of dominance is that they will try to sleep at the highest point of the bed, for example on a pillow, above your head; this should be discouraged as well. Your yorkie will be happier and better adjusted, if he understands that he isn't the boss, and that you both are. Other training will become easier too.

mina0710 01-09-2009 11:35 AM
Oh thanks for letting me know, any more?
I know when I walk him on a leash, to never let him walk in front of me. The most I will let him do is walk beside me ...

chachi 01-09-2009 11:36 AM
Its normal. My Chachi was doing it at 8 weeks

Nancy1999 01-09-2009 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by mina0710 (Post 2409878)
Oh thanks for letting me know, any more?
I know when I walk him on a leash, to never let him walk in front of me. The most I will let him do is walk beside me ...

This is one of Cesar's methods for establishing dominance, we have lightened up with this as Joey has gotten older, but I do think it helps let them know you are the boss, and really important when they are young. Another easy method for establishing dominance is always making them sit before you place the food bowl down. You teach them to sit, and then have them stay until you place the food down and you give the "release" command. You keep picking the bowl up until they stay until the release command is given. They actually learn this really fast. The lesson you are trying to teach is that all food is given by the pack leaders, and they have to obey the pack leader to get food. We always do this with his food, and if other dogs are around it keeps him from getting aggressive with his food bowl.

tiggertats 01-09-2009 11:48 AM
Lol thats funny. my dogs hump each other, the pillow and toys but never have they humped people.

JeanieK 01-09-2009 11:54 AM
Humping is bad behavior. It is a dominance, just like barking at you or peeing on you. It is not cute, funny, natural or harmless.

You would not allow a Great dane to hump the arm or your sofa. Correct the dog just like you would correct any other bad behavior, snd if they do it just to certain toys, remove those toys.

mina0710 01-09-2009 11:54 AM
Thank you thank you! This is all so helpful!

I do make my Charlie sit before I put the food bowl down. He's still learnign to stay so I have yet to make him sit too long before I put it down. I also try to make him sit before I take him out of the playpen when I go home from work. But it never works because he gets WAY TOO excited and couldn't stop jumping. So I just press his butt down and he sits for a quarter of a second ...

Nancy1999 01-09-2009 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by mina0710 (Post 2409911)
Thank you thank you! This is all so helpful!

I do make my Charlie sit before I put the food bowl down. He's still learnign to stay so I have yet to make him sit too long before I put it down. I also try to make him sit before I take him out of the playpen when I go home from work. But it never works because he gets WAY TOO excited and couldn't stop jumping. So I just press his butt down and he sits for a quarter of a second ...
Lol, I still have a hard time with the sitting before going outside, that ones a toughie, they do get so excited. :D

kcook323 01-09-2009 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2409895)
This is one of Cesar's methods for establishing dominance, we have lightened up with this as Joey has gotten older, but I do think it helps let them know you are the boss, and really important when they are young. Another easy method for establishing dominance is always making them sit before you place the food bowl down. You teach them to sit, and then have them stay until you place the food down and you give the "release" command. You keep picking the bowl up until they stay until the release command is given. They actually learn this really fast. The lesson you are trying to teach is that all food is given by the pack leaders, and they have to obey the pack leader to get food. We always do this with his food, and if other dogs are around it keeps him from getting aggressive with his food bowl.
I did not know these things either. I just always let Maximus lead on the leash, with respect to the direction I am going. Hmmm. Good to know.

Our vet recommends holding them and looking in their eyes until they turn their head away, and to do it with everyone in the family. He still tries to squirm out of my arms. The lil' booger.

What is the "release" command? Is it a voice command or a hand gesture?

mina0710 01-09-2009 12:08 PM
When I teach Charlie to stay, the release command is "ok".

kcook323 01-09-2009 12:08 PM
I meant to add in regards to the humping, Maximus does it to his "stuffed" yorkie, but never has on us. I've never worried about it because I've heard it was a dominance thing.

mscat 01-09-2009 12:10 PM
My Suzi has done the humping behavior since 4 months. I will not all ow her to do that with me, however she still tries to. It is correct that it only gets worse. It is better to stop them from continuing because they are trying to be dominante.

mina0710 01-09-2009 12:15 PM
How do you stop her from doing it? Just firmly say no?
I didn't know female babies hump as well.
I thought it was funny at first because it seemed like a sexual thing.

Nancy1999 01-09-2009 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mscat (Post 2409961)
My Suzi has done the humping behavior since 4 months. I will not all ow her to do that with me, however she still tries to. It is correct that it only gets worse. It is better to stop them from continuing because they are trying to be dominante.
Yes, it's best to make them stop if they are humping a human, I don't think anyone believes that this is good. Some people don't like them to hump anything, but it doesn't bother me if the hump other dogs or stuffed toys, and I have read nothing that indicates it's harmful.

Nancy1999 01-09-2009 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by mina0710 (Post 2409972)
How do you stop her from doing it? Just firmly say no?
I didn't know female babies hump as well.
I thought it was funny at first because it seemed like a sexual thing.
Just say no, and push them away, you could give them a suitable toy, if the humping behavior doesn't bother you.

Humping is associated with the hormone testosterone, and both male and females make testosterone. The bulk of testosterone is made by the male's testicles, and so neutering cuts down on the behavior, but since the body makes some as well, some dogs will continue to hump.

JeanieK 01-09-2009 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2409984)
Yes, it's best to make them stop if they are humping a human, I don't think anyone believes that this is good. Some people don't like them to hump anything, but it doesn't bother me if the hump other dogs or stuffed toys, and I have read nothing that indicates it's harmful.
Some males do actually get an erection and the penis rubs against whatever they are humping and becomes sore and infected. If that is not the case with yours, then it is not harmful, it's just bad manners.

Roseanderson 01-09-2009 12:39 PM
Mine humped from early too.....and continues to hump his toy occasionally even though he has been neutered....but he is not a dominant dog.....my girl takes advantage of him...lol...

JeanieK 01-09-2009 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Roseanderson (Post 2410032)
Mine humped from early too.....and continues to hump his toy occasionally even though he has been neutered....but he is not a dominant dog.....my girl takes advantage of him...lol...
They don't have to be dominant dogs in general, but it is a sign of dominance over what they are humping. The pack eader would never allow any other dog to hump him/her, but the others might hump each other.


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