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speck103 12-30-2008 02:39 PM

Keelymomma, trust me I'm not against any certain dogs. Like I said in my previous post, I blame the owners.
Matter of fact, I'm sitting here at work with a copy of the latest Sports Illustrated with Jasmine the pit bull on the cover. They have a beautiful story about Vick's dogs in there. Alot of them have been saved from euth, rehabed and have loving dedicated homes.

I'm not sure if his ears were cropped. When I told DH how he ran up and immediately grabbed Merlot's neck, that was his first thought. He thought that the dog was probably doing what it was taught to do.


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Originally Posted by MyPeanutAbbyGra (Post 2393386)
You are very welcome :) I just hope that you get some compensation for all the medical bills and lost work time. A big plus would be something for pain and suffering. You could treat little Merlot and your other baby to a day at the doggy spa, when Merlot is feeling better.

Big Hugs to Merlot from Abby, Daisy and Me :hug:

Us yorkie folks think alike!
This is exactly what I told DH. When Merlot's wounds are all healed, I'm treating him to a doggie massage and proper grooming. Lucy of course too! His hair is all lopsided from the shaving and he has'nt been able to have a bath since the accident.
I've also read that massaging helps with healing!


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Originally Posted by KimberlySRN (Post 2394239)
Very true... Any dog can attack, but I would much rather have a 10 pound dog attack compared to a 60 pound dog. Owners need to take responsiblity for what their dogs do, and if you decide to take on the responsiibilty of an animal you do that holisticly. Bottom line they need a person that is ready for the challenge just like any other breed, but even more so in a large dog that can do alot of damage.

This is actually why I mentioned the breed in my thread start. Plus, I knew everyone would be curious. Our dogs up against a pit bull is alot different then against a chi.
The strength of these dogs are amazing. With me holding both it's legs, someone kicking it and then beating it in the head, it still was going strong.


[quote=LilDaysha;2394452]I think all animals are unpredictable trained or not trained.
Animals are very unpredictable and that's why there are leash laws. Unfortunately people don't abide by them.

It should not be taken out on just one breed it can happen with any breed. It just happens to be then when it happens with a pitt its alot worst. I dont believe pitts should be banned, I just think not anyone should be allowed to own one. Just my opinion, I love all animals.[/quote]


Me too!

Tcarnagie 12-30-2008 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Keely_momma (Post 2394214)
But she said that even when they are well trained they are unpredictable. the statement is wrong. Ive worked with pitts as well. And the only one that was a little unbalanced was used for fighting. And he was still able to be saved. He is now a very sweet natured dog. And i know he wouldnt hurt a fly. To stereotype the entire breed is wrong.

Punish the deed, not the breed.

"There are no bad dogs, juts bad dog owners
"

I agree!!!

I am a owner of a Pit Bull and untrained and stupid owners are what has given these dogs bad names. I have had more problems with German Shepards than what I ever have had with a Pit. As a child the age of 2 my face was eaten by a German Shepard and that is the dog that killed my Yorkie Teddy this last June. Do I wish to see them banned??? NO....it is the owners of ANY dog that needs to be punished. I do not tolerate violence in any dog wether it is big or little. I have seen more attacks from little dogs than what I do out of the big ones, but the difference is the damage that is done.

Because Pits are in the media so frequently, people automatically assume they are bad dogs and they are not, if they are trained and taken care of. In the hands of certain people, they can be. Yes, mine is scared to death of other dogs....I know this and she goes NO WHERE that other animals are going to be at. She does not get to be left unattended at any time and if I am gone, she is crated. Have I had any problems...NO....but I don't take chances either.

OP....I am so sorry that this happened to your dog and it should not have. You have every right to seek damages since they are responsible for it. Good luck and I hope your baby continues to improve. My thoughts and prayers are with you during this time.

Lovetodream88 12-30-2008 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Keely_momma (Post 2394029)
I would like to know where you are getting your information. The first part is true, The second part is totally wrong. JUst because somebody has Huge muscles because they go to the gym alot doesnt mean that they are unpredictable and may start randomly beating people up. Its really sad you would even say that. I doubt you've accually come in cantact with many of these dogs. If even one.



Again OP. Im very very sorry this happened to you and your dog. Believe me I know hoe you feel. My girl was attacked by a 200 lb Mal Huskey. BUt then again, I suppose that every malamute huskey is also unpredictable because of its Strong jaws and muscular body:rolleyes:

I live where there are a lot of pittbulls and some of them do just attack trained or not. You need to rememeber no matter how well a dog is trained they always have there natural insitincts. There was a story where the pit was there family dog and it ended up attacking there young child! In my opionion they are just like weapons.

Keely_momma 12-30-2008 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by speck103 (Post 2394530)
Keelymomma, trust me I'm not against any certain dogs. Like I said in my previous post, I blame the owners.
Matter of fact, I'm sitting here at work with a copy of the latest Sports Illustrated with Jasmine the pit bull on the cover. They have a beautiful story about Vick's dogs in there. Alot of them have been saved from euth, rehabed and have loving dedicated homes.

I'm not sure if his ears were cropped. When I told DH how he ran up and immediately grabbed Merlot's neck, that was his first thought. He thought that the dog was probably doing what it was taught to do.

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Thank You for that. It takes a very special person to still not blame the breed even when you are a victom of an attack. I commend you for that! .. It does sound to me that he may have been used as a dog fighting dog. Maybe even by past owners (if hes had any) .. The dogs that are bred and trained for fighting have incredible drive and have a very HIGH pain tolerance. Because alot have been beaten since they left there mothers for that purpose. It sounds to me that he knew what he was "suposed to do" and wasnt going to stop until it was done. And that is a trait of a fighting dog. That was a very good move for you to make, I mean grabbing his back legs. It USSUALLY causes the dog to surrender or at the very least throw him off track. I think You did a great job with protecting your boy! And I have a very high respect for that :) I wish you the best of luck. And I hope that the owners take full responsibility for vet bills and give up there dog to somebody with the proper knowledge to handle him.

Lovetodream88 12-30-2008 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Keely_momma (Post 2394214)
But she said that even when they are well trained they are unpredictable. the statement is wrong. Ive worked with pitts as well. And the only one that was a little unbalanced was used for fighting. And he was still able to be saved. He is now a very sweet natured dog. And i know he wouldnt hurt a fly. To stereotype the entire breed is wrong.

Punish the deed, not the breed.

"There are no bad dogs, juts bad dog owners"

Any dog no matter how trained can still not listen and do what there natural instincts tell them to do!

Keely_momma 12-30-2008 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 2394545)
In my opionion they are just like weapons.

Yes, And weapons are only dangerous, in the hands of the wrong people;)

Lovetodream88 12-30-2008 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Keely_momma (Post 2394216)
BTW- ANY breed of dog can be dangerous with the wrong owners. Even The smallest of dogs can be dangerous.

yeah but pittbulls have extremly strong jaws and if a small dog attacks me I can restrain them and cannot a bigger dog.

MindieRose 12-30-2008 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 2394545)
I live where there are a lot of pittbulls and some of them do just attack trained or not. You need to rememeber no matter how well a dog is trained they always have there natural insitincts. There was a story where the pit was there family dog and it ended up attacking there young child! In my opionion they are just like weapons.

I agree. I have stated my stance and story of my experience with pitts. We were not "stupid owners" of pitts, and we had a lot of tragedy come from the 2 we owned. My mother in law was also attacked by her neighbors 2 pitts, and my good friends pitt attacked her good friend and almost scalped her.

This is a very unpredictable breed, no matter how good or responsible the owners are.

Keely_momma 12-30-2008 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 2394554)
Any dog no matter how trained can still not listen and do what there natural instincts tell them to do!


Yes .. ANY DOG. YOu say the words, But it seems that you dont believe them?

Lovetodream88 12-30-2008 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkiekist (Post 2394330)
So how do you feel about the family trained, wouldnt hurt a fly Pitt that, out of the blue, kills or severly hurts and member of its own family?(usually a small child) This scenario happens time after time. This breed is like a time bomb. You never know from day to day what kind of dog you have. The Pitt could be the most mello, friendly dog for years and then turn on its owners. They are an aggressive breed and due to un-educated "breeders", they continue to breed in aggressive traits. As with all breeds of dogs, the buyer needs to be careful where they get any dog. This is just one of the breeds that I would never recommend. To many well documented aggressive problems with this breed of dog. I wish that more states would ban them, but that only opens a huge can of worms for other breeds.

I just want to say thank you because I felt like I was the only one who felt like this.

Lovetodream88 12-30-2008 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Keely_momma (Post 2394341)
Yorkiekist- I am going to ignore some of your statements. BUt i would like to point out that Attacks happen by labrador retreivers (as an example) ALL THE TIME. They are known to be "A loving breed" BUt yet nobody takes interest in those attacks because it was made by a lab. KInda like how a Labrador retreiver puppy killed a baby and nobody really made a big deal out of it. Also, I cant count how many times there has been a dog attack and reporters and journalists have used the word Pittbull to spice up the story, while in reality the dog wasnt even a pittbull.. BUt thats fine, keep eating what the media's feeding. Because i feel bad for people who doesnt know the true buety of the breed. Always overlooking the good to get to the bad. I think yorkies are one of the worst breeds of dogs when it comes to temperment towards children. But hey, im not saying that everyone of them thats born should be PTS because of the breed.

A labs jaws arnt as strong and can altho can do damage its still not as bad a the damage that a pittbull can do. You can like the breed but you still need realize the bad! I know that my yorkie is wonderful with children she loevs them so much and the 5 I have had contact with all lived with familys with children and loved them and never heard of a yorkie killing a child.

Lovetodream88 12-30-2008 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Keely_momma (Post 2394562)
Yes .. ANY DOG. YOu say the words, But it seems that you dont believe them?

I do believe it and you cant tell wether I would or not because you cant hear my voice and you dont know me you are simply looking at typed words on a screen!

chestermama 12-30-2008 04:31 PM

Im so sorry for merlot, Im glad hes is still with you, that just pisses me off. I hope hes gets better soon, take care.

HisNameIsHarley 12-30-2008 05:20 PM

I havent read everyones replies but I wanted to say how sorry I am that you both had to go through this. The owners of the dog should be 100% percent responsible for all your vet bills and more. I feel however obligated to defend the dog who attacked you though. As everyone i'm sure agrees no dog is born aggressive. His/her owners are the ones to be blamed. I have worked at a nokill shelter for 3yrs and have been around many pits and truly believe they are no more aggressive than any other breeds. Actually it tends to be our toy breed dogs with the most aggression issues! :p The difference between the toy dogs aggression and a pits is their physical capabilities. A yorkie may bite you 20 times before actually puncturing you but a pit has a strong enough jaw to take your skin off. Owners are the problem. Period.

Again I am so sorry you had to go through this. In the end it's always the animals that suffer for peoples ignorance.

Keely_momma 12-30-2008 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by HisNameIsHarley (Post 2394864)
I havent read everyones replies but I wanted to say how sorry I am that you both had to go through this. The owners of the dog should be 100% percent responsible for all your vet bills and more. I feel however obligated to defend the dog who attacked you though. As everyone i'm sure agrees no dog is born aggressive. His/her owners are the ones to be blamed. I have worked at a nokill shelter for 3yrs and have been around many pits and truly believe they are no more aggressive than any other breeds. Actually it tends to be our toy breed dogs with the most aggression issues! :p The difference between the toy dogs aggression and a pits is their physical capabilities. A yorkie may bite you 20 times before actually puncturing you but a pit has a strong enough jaw to take your skin off. Owners are the problem. Period.

Again I am so sorry you had to go through this. In the end it's always the animals that suffer for peoples ignorance.


my thoughts exactly :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:


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