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JeanieK 11-23-2008 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by upindust (Post 2344192)
I really think it's rude for anyone to advise someone to not have kids. I had to raise my little sisters from the age of 6 up until the day my mom died. I know how much work kids are and I know how much patience they take and I find it SEVERELY offensive when someone tells me not to have kids. I also babysit my friends two year old when her husband gets a 24 hour watch. I'm not this easily frustrated with kids as I am with my dog. With kids i have this instinct in knowing what they are about to get into. With kids you know what they can and cannot get into.. there are no surprises really if you think ahead of time. i had no clue my dog could jump the way he can because he NEVER does it when i'm home or if he tries he acts like he can't do it..my friend was amazed at how well i did with her son. he didn't ask for junk food once instead I had him eating healthy the entire night, and he ate grapes which apparantly he hates according to his mom.yet he laid on the floor with me and munched on them. Kids are completely different then pets. my dog acts like a mindless two year old at times but trust me a real two year old is different then a dog acting to similarities.and if I had a two year oldI would of had a mattress protector on the bed but since it was just going to be ME on the bed and I knew I wasn't going to drink on the bed or pee on it I didn't have to worry about it and I was going to get one with this paycheck but pushed it back alittle. Plus a little kid could not climb up on this bed at all. I'm still amazed teddy could jump on it! I have no clue how he does it I tested him the first day I got it to see if he could jump up on it and it appeared that he couldn't.I'm sorry I care about wher emy dogs go potty and I've learned how to get pee out of anything. I take VERY VERY VERY good care of my things. I care about my dogs mistakes and I work to fix them. I would never want my carpet smelling like urine. which is why I semi obsessed ove rmy hallway because it smelled like it and I managed to get it out in a day. I'll do the same with stains when I get kids.. only I'll expect stains. With kids you expect certain things to happen. You know what is going to happen for sure. Thats why they are making more no mess toys out there and making paint that is easily washable (aka crayons). I'm just lucky enough to be the master of stains. I've managed to get dried blue koolaid out of creme colored carpet. My husband is a klutz so having him around is kind of like having the mess of a two year old.I know with a kid you wouldn't let them draw all over the walls and be like hmm my fault and then clean it off and go on with your day. You'd tell them it was wrong and have them help you clean it off... Now teddy can't help me clean up his messes but I can show what he did and tell him bad to it which ironically enough he KNOWS when he does someting bad because I'll come home and he'll show me, put his head down and lay down. I don't mind if he finds paper and chews on it but it looks like I may have to go back to rewarding him for peeing outside so he understands thats the place to go again.But don't insult my ability to be a parent again.

Dealing with a child is 100 times more difficult than dealing with a small dog.* There is a limit to what a dog can reach and what they can get into.* With a child, there is no limit.* I raised 6 kids and have 14 gradkids, and if a kid can do it, mine have done it.They can open cupboard doors and refrigerator doors and bedroom doors and bathroom doors and closet doors.* They can climb onto counter tops.* They pop keys off of your laptop keyboard and lose them, they use a scissors and cut things they get juice out of the refrigerator and spill it. they get into makeup and tampons and toilet paper and cereal and flour.* you name it they can get into it.*They also pee on things and poop on things and vomit on things and bleed all over our $200 dollar dress.** They break things and flush your cell phone down the toilet down the toilet, then they flush it until it overflows and leaks through the floor and ruins your basement ceiling and you have to call a plumber to fix the toilet.* They put rubber balls in the oven and it melts all over and you have to buy a new stove.* They put crayons in their pockets and it melts all over your dryer

A little pee on a mattress.* that is a very minor issue, I can sleep with that.

JeanieK 11-23-2008 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by crystalsmom (Post 2344681)
Wow this is still going on here!! Megan sweetie, I'm sorry but I do believe dogs can be very upset over things. the first time I stayed over at Sheryl and Eric's Taffy saw the suit cases and peed on their bed. She wanted to go since she always went to Fl. with them. Teddy could have been marking his territory, to say 'this is mine'. I thought the OP might be young but not as young as 21. Let's all think of the mistakes we made when we were that young. It's called learning from your mistakes and I'm sure she will. She has alot on her plate right now and I admire her for asking for our opinions and help. :animal-pa

I would say the dog did not pee becaue it was mad. It peed because it was upset, nervous and anxious and couldn't control it.

medusa512 11-23-2008 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2344685)
* They put rubber balls in the oven and it melts all over and you have to buy a new stove.*

i'd love to hear this story....at least Edgar just slobbers all over his!!

roxies_mom 11-23-2008 09:47 AM

I've read in other posts about crate size having something to do with them peeing in it. How big is your crate? He is still pretty young and just staying consistant with him and working on the problems should help things get better in time. For now all you can do you is just keep your eyes peeled untill he can be trusted. I had to rip up all of my carpet (it needed to go anyway after almost 22 years of pets and kids). I will not do carpet anymore except for in the bedrooms. Any bedroom that has new carpet in it I keep the door closed. It really should get better after awhile with all your hard work and consistancy. I feel bad for you that your feeling so frustrated. This is a place to come and vent and look for helpful suggestions. I know how it is to feel frustrated and then after you cool down you look at that little face and melt all over again!!
Good luck and hope it improves very soon for you.

roxies_mom 11-23-2008 09:52 AM

Oh I was also going to suggest a bully stick or something a little more exciting to them then rawhide. I think they get bored with rawhide a little easier. Another thing I do when I've gone out to run errands and leave Roxie here alone is to make sure I bring her something (even if it's only a dollar). She gets so excited and that way she knows I didn't just go off and forget about her all day. Maybe I'm crazy thinking it makes her feel better, but it makes me feel better and she seems pretty happy about it.

emilyann 11-23-2008 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashley V (Post 2344667)
I don't see where anyone was being rude... I mean there may have been a couple posts, but I think everyone for the most part is just being honest.

One minute you say no one was being rude the next you say there may have been a couple of posts? Just because it's "only one or two posts" doesn't make it right. :rolleyes:

Ashley V 11-23-2008 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by emilyann (Post 2344735)
One minute you say no one was being rude the next you say there may have been a couple of posts? Just because it's "only one or two posts" doesn't make it right. :rolleyes:

I never said it made it right, but out of the 8 pages there were at the time, if there were only a couple then why group everyone together and tell everyone not to be rude? I think that's rude... if you want to point out the couple that were rude, then go ahead, but don't group everyone together and lecture us on what is rude and not and about money and all that.

phfgkl 11-23-2008 10:21 AM

As for me, I wasn't being rude, I was being honest..to want to get rid of a dog because it peed on a $700 mattress, to me is ridiculous. As I said, mine ruined a $3500 leather sectional, but, did I get mad?? Yeah, I did, at myself, for allwoing it to happen. dogs are like kids, they take a lot of time, and a lot of patience. I have 6 dogs, and believe me, I've had plenty of things destroyed, but, these dogs give me more joy and love than most humans! When I've had a bad day, they're the ones that come up to me and give me a kiss, all they want from their human companions is time, love and to be fed, and then they're happy! Too bad people couldn't be more like dogs! I could never figure out until the last few days, why Mom and Dad always said next time around, they were raising dogs instead of kids, now, I know why..

emilyann 11-23-2008 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashley V (Post 2344741)
I never said it made it right, but out of the 8 pages there were at the time, if there were only a couple then why group everyone together and tell everyone not to be rude? I think that's rude... if you want to point out the couple that were rude, then go ahead, but don't group everyone together and lecture us on what is rude and not and about money and all that.

I wasn't grouping everyone. Obviously, if I said that the ones being rude needed to get off their thrones then I meant the ones being rude. I apologize for not putting the quote button to good use but I'm lazy. I figured, with how I worded things, that anyone who cared would know who I was talking about.

Keywords from my initial response: "Half of you keep going on and on about the SAME THING...".

Please stop trying to argue with me on someone's thread.

By the way, I lectured? What are you doing to me? Now, instead of giving the OP a break, GIVE ME ONE. ;)

JeanieK 11-23-2008 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by medusa512 (Post 2344706)
i'd love to hear this story....at least Edgar just slobbers all over his!!

Went to preheat the oven. Smoke started rolling out of the oven, one of the kids had put a rubber ball in there, it had melted all over the element. Had to replace the stove. At the time I had a two year old and a three year old. never did find out who did it.

Kids can be very expensive.

JeanieK 11-23-2008 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by phfgkl (Post 2344754)
As for me, I wasn't being rude, I was being honest..to want to get rid of a dog because it peed on a $700 mattress, to me is ridiculous. As I said, mine ruined a $3500 leather sectional, but, did I get mad?? Yeah, I did, at myself, for allwoing it to happen. dogs are like kids, they take a lot of time, and a lot of patience. I have 6 dogs, and believe me, I've had plenty of things destroyed, but, these dogs give me more joy and love than most humans! When I've had a bad day, they're the ones that come up to me and give me a kiss, all they want from their human companions is time, love and to be fed, and then they're happy! Too bad people couldn't be more like dogs! I could never figure out until the last few days, why Mom and Dad always said next time around, they were raising dogs instead of kids, now, I know why..

yes or repair a basement ceiling, cell phone and the cost of the plumber.

As I said a mattress is minor. I can sleep- with that. and kids pee on mattresses too.

phfgkl 11-23-2008 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2344796)
yes or repair a basement ceiling, cell phone and the cost of the plumber.

As I said a mattress is minor. I can sleep- with that. and kids pee on mattresses too.

Oh yes, have had the kids pee on the mattresses, more than one time..:(
Never have dealt with the cell phone or basement, since down south most people don't have basements, and luckily, the g-kids never have gotten ahold of hubbys cell phone, although, now, the 2 of them are old enough to know better, but, we have another one on the way..Now, my 6 year old g-daughter has done her share of "drawings" on her bedroom wall. And, my daughter, when she was about 3 pulled the wall paper off my in-laws bathroom wall, and they had already sold their house, so had to re-do wallpapering before they moved...:D
Our new mattress just cost us $2500, the only ones that go in the bedroom are him and me..:)

LoveMyJake 11-23-2008 11:04 AM

I've just kinda scanned through this thread and don't know if this has been suggested, but maybe he needs more exercise. Try to take him for a walk a couple times a day. Read a book about training, and you will find that if you take the time, it is not only fun but it is rewarding to watch your dog learn. I've had many problems with Jackson's behavior, but I stick it out and be consistent and never give up. His behavior has improved drastically. It's hard work and it takes time, but I think we owe it to our dogs to train them well so that they know how to behave. After all, look at all the unconditional love we get in return. You have to be patient and consistent. You have to WANT for it to work. It really is very rewarding and fun, and a great way to bond with your dog.

From what I can tell, there have been pages and pages of suggestions and encouraging words, but you seem to find a reason why each suggestion won't work. You have to ask yourself, "can I really handle this responsibility"?

SamiNFurbabies 11-23-2008 11:06 AM

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As for me, I wasn't being rude, I was being honest..to want to get rid of a dog because it peed on a $700 mattress, to me is ridiculous.
I agree. My 1200 $ matress was peed on and I cleaned it... Chachi and the others are way too important to me for that.
And honestly, I don't see anyone being rude---I think that she was referring to me---but that doesn't matter to me. I tried to help find solutions to the problem and I tried to give her insight into my situation (being that I'm young, broke, and have been under a lot of stress and I managed to make it work and so can she). Now...I'm going to go make Ramen Noodles for lunch... :) )

MissSophie 11-23-2008 11:07 AM

Dogs have found new homes for much less than ruining a $700 mattress. There are many people on YT who are attached to their dogs like they are their children, but they are dogs, and although mine is my baby, there are also many people (including two of my co-workers) who think I am crazy and consider mine just a dog. One even gave away a Maltese puppy because she "didn't have time for it" and just didn't like having a dog. So, everyone is different and feels frustration in a different way. Of course you wouldn't get rid of your child for ruining a piece of furniture, but I am willing to bet that there are millions of people who would if a dog did the same thing.

QuickSilver 11-23-2008 11:21 AM

It's important to remember also that our attitudes towards animals are in a tremendous state of flux. Our fore fathers would have been baffled at the concept of "animal rights." As someone pointed out much earlier, different countries have extremely different ideas about what dogs are, and we can't judge them for that unless we want to be judged for our attitudes towards cows.

It's just a fact that the person sitting on your right may wear fur and the person on your left may be appalled that you aren't a vegan. There are a lot of different standards out there these days.

Fairzyorkie 11-23-2008 11:31 AM

Can't Keep Teddy Anymore
 
I understand your anguish because Mr. Fuzzy has pissed/pooped on every item in my home. (bed, ottoman, couch, kitchen /bathroom rug) On the days that I'm not frustrated with life, I'm able to remember that he's not perfect and he will have accidents just like the best humans:) But on days where everything is crappy - I'm two steps from calling the pound! Although I can't give you any good tips, please try to remember how you feel in the morning when he gives you "lick'kisses" when you wake up. Or when he nuzzles your hand so you can pet him.
Good luck!

medusa512 11-23-2008 11:34 AM

i think upindust has left the room...

maybe she's getting a good dose of puppy kisses!

MeganS 11-23-2008 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by phfgkl (Post 2344592)
As always Megan, great posting..but, only one thing, that is, when a dog gets mad at you, they can do things to get back with you..I've seen it happen many times over the years, and believe me, it still happens...if he jumped up on her bed and peed, he may have been upset with her over something she did...dogs can be like kids, sometimes they do things hoping you will show them the attention..I know that doesn't make a lot of sense to some, but, even our dog trainer(and he's been doing training for years) has said they will do this occasionally..But, everything else, you're right on about..Now, have you turned 15 yet? From your posting, you would think you were at least 30..;)

Haha thank you - yes, I'm 15. ;)

Good point. What if, instead of saying "a dog" I said "a trained dog?" Because a trained dog knows that peeing on the rug = bad. But an untrained dog thinks being on the rug = just like peeing anywhere else. So an untrained dog wouldn't think...ooh...let's pee on the rug and make her mad. To me, Teddy doesn't sound trained, so I don't think he'd process thoughts the same way a trained dog would, if you know what I mean.

That's really what I meant by my post - an untrained dog who doesn't know right from wrong. :)

Because I'm with you, Tucker does stuff all the time just to drive me crazy. :p But when he was a puppy, he wouldn't pee on the rug just to make me angry, because he didn't know that it would make me angry or why it would.

phfgkl 11-23-2008 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MeganS (Post 2345002)
Haha thank you - yes, I'm 15. ;)

Good point. What if, instead of saying "a dog" I said "a trained dog?" Because a trained dog knows that peeing on the rug = bad. But an untrained dog thinks being on the rug = just like peeing anywhere else. So an untrained dog wouldn't think...ooh...let's pee on the rug and make her mad. To me, Teddy doesn't sound trained, so I don't think he'd process thoughts the same way a trained dog would, if you know what I mean.

That's really what I meant by my post - an untrained dog who doesn't know right from wrong. :)

Because I'm with you, Tucker does stuff all the time just to drive me crazy. :p But when he was a puppy, he wouldn't pee on the rug just to make me angry, because he didn't know that it would make me angry or why it would.

:thumbup:

zenzele 11-23-2008 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by upindust (Post 2343665)
I seriously can't. not only are my husband and I having issues finding apartments that accept dogs but his behavior has became too much for me to handle. I got home today and met my breaking point. After over a year of sleeping on an AIR MATRESS I was finally able to afford a real mattress set but could not afford the mattress protector and I think i accidentally threw away the white slips that are used for the warranty.. anyway I come home and teddy has climbed up on some things.. he is an amazing jumper when I'm not around aparantly and I walk into the bedorom to let him in his crate since he's just told on himself that he's done something bad.. when I look up and see he had PEED on our brand new mattresses and now I'm just crying my eyes out because of all the hardwork I had to do to beable to afford those and he may have ruined them ina two second snap and he had his pee pad in the hallway and everything I wasn't even gone an hour.

i don't have the time or patience OR money to afford his behavior anymore. I hate the idea of giving him up because he's avery very lovable guy but I just do not think he is for me

How old is Teddy and how long have you had him? I know I probably have really ticked off some Yorkie Talk members everytime they hear me say that dogs like children have to be trained and if the owner or parent don't train the dog or child, they are to blame when a dog acts like a dog or a child acts like a child. If you don't think you can put in the time to train (and really it only takes 5 minutes a day...consistency not time is the key) but at any rate if you can't put in the time to train him or take him to obedience class then you should rehome him so that both you and he will be happier. :aimeeyork:animal-pa

krisknr 11-23-2008 01:28 PM

I can't speak for every one because some people on here seem to have %100 unconditional love and patience. I however am not perfect and have had days I wanted to kick every one out of my house, This includes my 3 dogs, husband and 5 year old daughter!!!! Some times when your life is full of stress you focus on the straw that is about to break the camels back.
I think we should try to help her and encourage her to try new things or old things again.
I think it might also be helpful to be honest and admit you have been frustrated with your dog!! and then talk about what you did to fix it.
If in the end she decides that having a dog is more than she can deal with then I am sure people in her area on this forum could help find him a good home.
Having a dog is not for every one and you don't know that until you have had one!!!!
That being said if you do rehome your dog I hope you know you will almost certainly have the same problems with a new dog.

SamiNFurbabies 11-23-2008 01:42 PM

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I can't speak for every one because some people on here seem to have %100 unconditional love and patience. I however am not perfect and have had days I wanted to kick every one out of my house, This includes my 3 dogs, husband and 5 year old daughter!!!! Some times when your life is full of stress you focus on the straw that is about to break the camels back.
I think we should try to help her and encourage her to try new things or old things again.
I think it might also be helpful to be honest and admit you have been frustrated with your dog!! and then talk about what you did to fix it.
*shrugs* We've suggested crating, walking the dog, giving treat when you are gone.... etc... there HAVE been suggestions.
Honestly---never once did I think of kicking my dogs out of the house... i have thought of locking my mom out though :rolleyes: My dogs are my dream. I have always wanted one and I appreciate every moment with them...sometimes they are little freaks---but that is my fault.
Yeah, I get frusterated sometimes...but I think about what I did wrong---rather than what they did...because they are dogs and they have dog brains and they rely on me for guidance.

Darlin Beauxs 11-23-2008 01:56 PM

I have never thought of getting rid of any of mine. Threatening them to make "Yorkie stew" out of them, or making them "Live in the Wild" (my backyard...always makes me feel better. :p

I just thought of this post. Cooper went outside and took a poop, then came back inside the house, and used my BRAND NEW fluffy white chenille bath rug ($60) as toliet paper. I started to take pics, but decided it would be too nasty. I told him good thinking, for not wiping his butt on my sofa or carpet, like he has before.

The rug is in the washer, and all the fluff is now stuck to the insides of the washer. A damp, freshly bathed Cooper is curled up next to me now---this is a day in OUR lives... :)

Bhikku 11-23-2008 02:19 PM

Story time:

My friend's 7 year-old German Shepherd took it into his head one day to "redecorate" her apartment after being moved into it from the country. He literally did thousands of dollars worth of damage. Forget getting the pet deposit back, she is going to have to pay all of the repairs. You can literally not imagine the damage. Carpet, walls, patio, kitchen. You name it, the dog destroyed it.

This is a dog which was supposedly housebroken. She does not have the money to fix this problem, but she's still working with the dog, even though it now periodically destroys something else (couch, throw pillows, piano...) About twice a week. He is medicated with Xanax and several other sedatives, and still does this. He has seen behaviorists (he is extensively obedience trained). She exercises the dog by walking him 3 miles a day (with back weights). It just isn't working out.

Now she's bringing home another puppy, hoping it will cure the dog's separation anxiety. Her new dog? A Border Collie/German Shepherd mix.

In an apartment.

If I was her, I would have rehomed the shepherd weeks ago. I definitely wouldn't be bringing in another dog of the same activity level/temperament to add to the chaos. Moving a German Shepherd which had been living in an open yard into a one bedroom apartment is just not going to work. She's trying to deal with things the best way she can, but her refusal to give up her dog is ruining her life. It's affecting her productivity at work and it's emotionally draining her. She's pushed it to the point of absurdity. She can't even invite people over to her house anymore.

JMO, but I don't think you should keep an animal if it's ruining your life.

krisknr 11-23-2008 02:37 PM

Just so you know were I am coming from:
All my dogs are well potty trained, out side potty trained. My Crested was 4 1/2 months old and had lived in a cage until I got him and I was told by people good luck ever potty training him!!! Well I did it!!!
If your dog isn't trained it is your fault no doubt! but like I said having a dog isn't for every one!
Don't tell me that dogs don't do things they know they shouldn't!!! because they do, they are alot like kids in that way. Do I feel like it is my fault yes and no. Do I think they are vindictive and do it just to tick me off? NO! Does it tick me off, yes!
I do not think of my dogs as little angels that can do no wrong so I spoil them until they are yappy little monsters who poop all over my house then say but they are angels who can do no wrong!
They are my fur babies and members of my house hold. As the alpha dog I make sure we can live happily together.

PS. I think a person who is ment to have a dog will do what they have to do to train it so they can all live happily. If they are easily ready to throw the towel in then they should find the dog a new home. At least she isn't just dropping him off out in the country!

manolos mom 11-23-2008 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by upindust (Post 2343665)
I seriously can't. not only are my husband and I having issues finding apartments that accept dogs but his behavior has became too much for me to handle. I got home today and met my breaking point. After over a year of sleeping on an AIR MATRESS I was finally able to afford a real mattress set but could not afford the mattress protector and I think i accidentally threw away the white slips that are used for the warranty.. anyway I come home and teddy has climbed up on some things.. he is an amazing jumper when I'm not around aparantly and I walk into the bedorom to let him in his crate since he's just told on himself that he's done something bad.. when I look up and see he had PEED on our brand new mattresses and now I'm just crying my eyes out because of all the hardwork I had to do to beable to afford those and he may have ruined them ina two second snap and he had his pee pad in the hallway and everything I wasn't even gone an hour.

i don't have the time or patience OR money to afford his behavior anymore. I hate the idea of giving him up because he's avery very lovable guy but I just do not think he is for me

PUPPY STAGE. I promise it wont last and you will have a devoted friend....

krisknr 11-23-2008 02:50 PM

I just thought of this post. Cooper went outside and took a poop, then came back inside the house, and used my BRAND NEW fluffy white chenille bath rug ($60) as toliet paper. I started to take pics, but decided it would be too nasty. I told him good thinking, for not wiping his butt on my sofa or carpet, like he has before.

:lol tears

I have to save that story!

medusa512 11-23-2008 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlin Beauxs (Post 2345130)
Cooper went outside and took a poop, then came back inside the house, and used my BRAND NEW fluffy white chenille bath rug ($60) as toliet paper...

sorry, this made me laugh. my mom gave me some advice when we were purchasing new carpet for our front room.

'Choose a color that matches the dirt in your back yard.'

My advice to you is pick a color that matches the poo on his back side....

:)

luvfla 11-23-2008 03:14 PM

I don't know where we are in this...I skipped from page 3 to page 10. HOWEVER...if you feel that this little guy is not for you...that's is YOUR choice, & it's OK.
Honestly, I will take him. We have 2 yorkie boys & 1 puss & room for another. Luckily...,unlike children, pups can be traded out to a home that is better suited for them. No problems.
Let me know.


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