I don't want to discourage you but, even after Toby is neutered he will be attracted to the areas where he has peed before. Their sense of smell is so much stronger then ours and if they are still able to smell their urine they will continue to mark there. You are probably going to have to get some type of cleaner that will eliminate the smell completely.

Keeping them blocked in the kitchen while they cannot be supervised should really help and then if the boys take them out as soon as they get home they should be able to have run of the house for awhile. Keep in mind that they will also have to go to the bathroom more often in the evenings when they are most active so you might want to have the boys take them out once every hour in the evenings until you're sure the dogs get the potty outside only idea.

They both look so sweet and I wish you the best of luck.

Both your furkids are adorable!! I wish you luck in whatever you decide.

Have you tried using a belly band for the boy? They are great and it would keep your furniture from being peed on plus they are inexpensive.

I'm glad that you made that decision. Just the thought of not havingmine to snuggle with makes me cry.

I hope your boys step up and help out but that age is not a good age for helping. and getting the boys to let them out will not stop the peeing inside untill the dogs are completely trained. And the kids too.

May I suggest that you get an x pen or pen them in a bathroom or other hard surface area when no one is home.

also getting the carpet professionally cleaned and getting the male neutered will help.

Good luck I hope it all works out for yiou.

Sounds like she may need her anal glands emptying, she may even have an infection in her glands. Your vet can sort this out.
Also have you tried belly bands with Tobey? Check out the classifieds I'm sure there are some YT'ers selling them. Good luck and keep us updated:D

I feel your pain...I have two pups one just turned a year the other is 16 months and they have been brutal to train. I keep them in an xpen with a washable pad, food, water and their bed. They are trained to go on the pad in their pen but if they have free run and you take your eyes of them for even a minute, one of them has gone poop in a corner. Thank God they are pretty good with the pee. We let them outside for at least an hour in the morning, after lunch, suppertime etc. But they will still do their business in the house at any given chance. They are just really difficult to train but I would say mine are at least 98% there. Hopefully in time they will get it. I would try the belly band on your male, makes a big difference. Definitely get them fixed. Do whatever you have to do to make like easier for you and the pups.

Your females glands might be full from the sounds of it. Take her to the vet or groomers and have her checked. They can express them if necessary.

Good luck...it will get better in time.

I just wanted to wish you luck with your restored hope in training and keeping your babies... This is largely going to rely on your family, but the neutering will help i'm sure... Roxi is a 14 months and Rocco is 7 months.... Roxi is spayed, and I will be getting Rocco neutered asap, our Dr wants to wait till he gets a little bigger b/c he is only 2.5 lbs. I have been very lucky, as mine were both a peice of cake to train... They dont always poop right on the pads, sometimes on the kitchen floor right next to it, but they pee on the pads 99 percent of the time... But they DEF can try my patience!! But I wouldn't have it any other way, I could not imagine my life w/out them!! We are actually very blessed b/c we work a lot of hours too!

Good luck to you!! Please keep us updated... X

Best of luck retraining them

They are so adorable I could see why you changed your mind and want to give it another try. You have some excellent advice but for a huge task ahead of you. Take is one step at a time and hopefully your boys will cooperate and help out more. Teenagers are horrid, I totally feel your pain:rolleyes: ;)

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Lots of great ideas!

Many people recommend free feeding till the age of 6 months or 4 pounds, by this time you don't usually have to worry about hypoglycemia. I feed Joey twice a day, first thing in the morning, and then again in the evening at dinnertime. He usually has a treat at bedtime. Feeding twice a day will allow the poop time to become regular, and give you more of an idea on when that time is. Many dogs will poop 5 minutes after eating so some people just take them for a walk after meals.

The diarrhea may be caused by something she's eating, and to get the best advice, I suggest you start a new thread in the diet forum. While the scooting behavior sometimes happens when anal glands are too full, it often can happen when the area has been shaved. Shaving too close can cause itching and irritation, your vet can check for this, but many people recommend clipping with a scissors instead of shaving, again you might want to look at the diet, because with the right food, you'll have no dingleberrys. The scooting may also be cause because the area is inflamed from the diarrhea. Make sure your sons aren't feeding the dogs any people food. Dogs often beg from family members who find it difficult to say no, and the food that most kids eat isn't fit for a dog, and can cause diarrhea.

I also would get some belly bands for your male dog, just place a sanitary pad inside a belly band, and take it off several times a day to allow them to pee normally outside or on a pee pad. Until the dog is fixed this might be the best option.

I did want to add that twice a week baths may be too much, many people recommend no more than once a week.

I'm so glad you're going to try and keep your babies. I can't even imagine working the hours you work and trying to housebreak yorkies. They are trying even for us who stay home with them every day. I wish you the best of luck. You've got a lot of good advice here and hopefully everything will work out for you.

Thank you Nancy 1999. Where can I get some belly bands for Tobey? Jade's diarrhea has a touch of blood in it too. What could that be? She is playing and acting fine. Ok so we will bathe less than. Once a week? I will try the food in the am and pm. I feed them Eukanuba for Yorkshire Terriers. I love my babies and want to make this work. Everyone on this site has been so wonderful.

Don't know anything about blood or diarrhea, I have read that sometimes they get runny stools from switching to a new food too fast, if you are seeing a vet maybe you could bring in a stool sample, especially if it has blood. Ask your vet, but I think I read that the stool sample can be refrigerated until it's time to test. Like I said, it could be that your boys fed human food, getting them to admit it might be a problem. If this were the case the diarrhea would probably clear up on its own as long as no more human food was given. Belly bands can be purchased at most pets stores, they are a simple wrap that goes around the dogs middle, and usually Velcro closed. Used with a sanitary pad, they are really helpful. Many of our members make really cute ones, and there a must for unneutered dogs, but even neutered dogs can use them especially when visiting company. Here's a link to Yorkietalk members, store sites, some of them make the Belly bands, or some people call them tummy wraps. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...ore-sites.html

I know you have lots on your mind right now, but I wanted to tell you about the black light that Petsmart sells, I think you can get it with Natures Miracle the enzyme cleaner, I was telling you about earlier. Your boys might be the age where they would enjoy playing detective with the black light and finding any "evidence", using the enzyme spay, will effectively get rid of the "evidence" and the dog won't continue to return to the scene of the crime. The black light allows you to see urine stains where there doesn't seem to be any stain to the human eye. However the dog can smell these proteins and will continue to return to that spot.

I think most people here bath their dogs, once a week so that should be fine.

I'm sorry but your comment bugs me a little. The reasons she has for giving up her dogs have nothing to do with their breed, but her lifestyle. As long as this womans lifestyle remains the same, she probably doesn't need a dog period, definitely not a puppy. Too many people buy dogs without doing research and then decide it was a breed issue. Yorkies are hard to housebreak so get a Lab. The Lab was too hyper so try a Basset Hound. You get the idea. People make mistakes, but it's so important to learn from them. The OP need to change careers or get a cat.

Oops just read that the OP is going to try and keep her pups. Hope it works out and she get her kids trained too. No offense meant, I'm just no a kid person, LOL. I stand by my previous comment though.

I have had more problems with a lab. puppy ,then I ever did with yorkies.
Labs don't seem to get their brains until around 3 yrs old. then they are perfect dogs. Millie the lab had 3 homes before she was a 7mos. old. she was just so destructive, she pulled the siding off my brother-n-laws house, chew the hot tub wires, and I think the last straw was when she decided to re landscape their lawn they just had done, anyway she was passed around until she ended up here with me I was her 4th owner, and to be honest their were times I was ready to find her a 5th owner. at age 3yr she the perfect, calm, well behave, dog. it's was just that horrible puppy hood she went through.

I'm new to YT as I got my first Yorkie last Thursday. She is a darling baby girl, 10 weeks old, 1.6 lbs at the vet on Wednesday. The last two nights, my liitle girl pooped in her kennel and had it all over her so she got bathed first thing both mornings. I don't know an alternative in this situation. YT is so helpful...any suggestions?

Congrats and Welcome - Your little girl is still a baby, and has NO clue about 'good potty' and 'bad potty' - You'll have many, many months of potty training, among other training as well. Remember that she she is so tiny, so she can not hold potty for very long. If you are training her to go outside, you should be taking her out about every 30 mins, and bring her to the same potty area. If you are pee pad training, then you need to keep her in a small contained area, with pee pads, food, water, toys and bed. She should not have free run until she is (IMO) at least 1 year old. B/c there will be regression periods as well, plus having too much free run is scarey and intimidating. So keep her area small and contained (like the kitchen area) - I would get an expen (from Walmart.com) it's the Play Yard (white plastic) it's about $50 - this is great for young pups. Oh and crate training at night (if this is what you are doing) you will need to get up through out the night to let her go potty, as she can not hold it that long ;)

The first night she slept in her crate on our bed and cried on and off all night. I took her to her pee pad each time I got up and she used it each time. Such a good girl...the next two nights, she slept with us and I continued the "pee" schedule. The next night, she wouldn't calm down and wanted to play instead of sleep so I put her back in the crate and on our bed. That night she pooped in the crate so I then put her in her kennel to finish the night. I cleaned all that up and bathed her and the next night, we tried putting her in her small kennel with her pee pad, water and her bed. She cried some but she was fine when my husband got up this morning and he let her out and tried to get her to use the pee pad (she didn't), then put her back in the kennel when he left. About an hour later, I heard her really yelping and I got up and she had pooped in there and had it all over her again. We live in an apt. so I don't have room for the xpen but thought the kennel would work. I'm going to rearrange the contents to try tonight so that maybe she won't step in the poop and also try making her breakfast and lunch meals larger and the lighter meal at night to try to change the time she needs to poop. We love having her sleep with us but do sleep better without a third occupant. I know she is just a baby and need to have lots of patience. She won't go outside...she is afraid when we take her out. She is still adjusting to us but we can tell, she wants to be as close to us as possible. She is playing with her toys and so sweet. I am learning a lot from this forum although I haven't learned how to do much on here...don't know how to post pics. :rolleyes: I feel I'm Internet savvy but not real acclimated to the site procedures so be patient with me.

My Yorkie baby is: Abigail (Abby) Rose

my heart goes out to you....I hope everything works out, just have faith. I am getting a second yorkie this weekend and will be trying the pee pad method, maybe that would work for you. Lucy goes outside religiously and when I put the pad down for her to try she laid on it like a rug. PM me if you need anything.

YT is a great place, but it does take some time to figure it all out :p

Here is where the main message board is and there you will find different forums (training is there too!)

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/index.php

Thanks for the "training" tip!

Thanks! My thought re: jumping in to reply on this thread was to address the fact that I've had to bathe her more often than desired. I don't know what else to do when she has poop all over her.

I am looking to adopt a yorkie asap...if anyone knows anybody please let me know. thanx

Please email me if your puppies are still available colleenmd@msn.com

Mypreciouspups, I had my male neutered at a young age and he still pees on beds and coffee tables, sorry but your theory is not always right!!

In most cases it does help - BUT - you still have to enforce proper 'potty' behaviors and training. If you male is peeing on the couch - then he should not be allowed on the couch. You should limit his free area dn go back to the basics for potty training. Bad potty should not be allowed.

Sorry if this was already mentioned, but what about belly bands. If neutering doesn't help with marking, they might.

Wow I just now seen this, I wonder how things are going for you and your fur-babies, they sure are gorgeous, so glad you are going to spay then and neuter I give you two:thumbup::thumbup:for that:D