I do not think anyone is saying that mixed bred dog or purebred dogs are not both equally beautiful, cute, adorable etc...I think that people, such as myself are worried about over-population of these animals which we all hold precious...Purebred or not...

As for the dogs "value"...Wheter Sammi was 200 bucks or 1800 bucks I feel in love with her...Her "value" to me is not monetary...It it WAY WAY more than that...I think the whole "debate" to me is just people seeing what is in the shelters (mostly mixed breeds) and trying to prevent it from getting even more overpopulated...

I hope I made some kinda sense...I have not had my coffee yet :)

Fran and Sammi

Hiya Katie its Wex. wook at my new signatuwe

You are right..how could any dog lover not love any dog. But No one hear "hates' mixed or purebred dogs. I certainly don't see where I have come across as "fighting" about it or hating anyone. I have been a dog lover for over 40 years..I actually like dogs better than most people LOL. I don't hate any mix, I just want to make sure you understand my opposition is with the incredible high prices some of these breeders charge and the false advertising that they are "better". I think some of them are taking advantage of people. If you want a mix and want to pay 1500 for it, go for it..but don't sell them on it being healthier, hypo allergenic, the best of both breeds just on the basis of it being a mix...it's just a bunch of bunk. If they are attracted to the dog, love the dog and are happy with paying that much it's A OK with me. I just don't think it's right.

Right answer and the morkie has been sold for years now (that's actually an update pic) and the Yorkie has been reserved and will leave soon. Needless to day that not everyone feels the same way abotu mixed breeds and no one seems to be able to agree to disagree on this one (not even myself) But I try to explain my point of view anywho.

Even for the price there should be 1004 mixes and 2000$ mixes just like the pure bred puppies. clissified by quality. Of course by today's standards a pure bred at 100$ will probably be like my first yorkie (PEANUT) he has been spayed/neutered but that was a 350$ dog (Yorkshire Terrier) which I bought before starting this breeding. Over 14 years ago, he is HUGE!!!!! 15 pounds, trachea problems, hyp problems, luckyly no liver problems but not bred because brother died of liver shunt. We made the guy do DNA and it turns out his father was the son of his mother. (HIS BROTHER WAS ALSO HIS FATHER) Cost us a few hundred for DNA. This is when we got interested into getting a home kennel at first. And Peanut has lived a VERY LONG life considering all the issues he came with once he starts suffering (when trachea problems worsten) we will have no choice but to put him to sleep. JUST TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE ON HOW BAD A PURE BRED CAN BE AS WELL. I would send a picture but you do NOT want to see this.!!!

Marc-o

Totally adorable!! Not any less valuable or loveable because he isn't purebred. :)

I think he is absolutely adorable.

Just a small detail i am inquiring about

Most breeds with NON shedding hair are hypo allergenic unless you are actually allergic to the mucus (spit) of the dog then I believe that they are. Even mixed with non shedding hair. (I read a few book's on this) It's been a while and this is to my knowledge of course if you know otherwise let me know.

Mac-o!

I thought you meant just a "mixed breed", not mixing breeds. In regard to what I originally thought (any Heinz variety) every single dog is an individual and a total mutt can be an awsome, healthy, loyal, intellegent friend for a lifetime.

Awww Wexy poo, you sooo sweeeeettt!!!

Regarding the picture of the 2 dogs you just posted ... they are both adorable to me. I like the coloring of the bigger one and the smaller one is as cute as a bug in a rug. :p

Thats what I thought too. But what I'm hearing now is that they are not 100 %hypoallergeic although people whom suffer from allergies to dogs have less problems from malt and yorkies. People whom are allergic to dogs are mostly having reactions to the dander and all dogs have have dander. Malts , yorkies, greyhounds and a few other breeds have less dander which some people tolerate better.

I am not trying to pick on you Pat but you give me a chance to make point with your post.

Breeding ANY dog, mix or purebred, takes a home away from a dog in the pound or Humane Society.

It is not a "waste of time" to breed a poodle and a maltese, imo, anymore than breeding two purebred dogs or a German Biewer and an American Parti. I love the look of a malti-poo. "Looks" seem to be what the purebred world is mostly about. These mixes are adorable so there is a "reason" for them.

If the law is to change because of over population, it will not discriminate, all breeding will be regulated to control the population, not just "mixed breed" breeding.

To me, Marc-o- seems very sincere and he seems to genuinely love dogs. I, for one, would not be so harsh as to say he "breeds these dogs PURELY for profit" anymore than I would make that judgment about a purebred breeder I did not know. I believe that to be in the "dog" business in any way, you have have a genuine passion for animals in general and dogs in particular.

I just thought that comment was a bit harsh.

I have a Maltese and a Yorkie and my sister's husband is SEVERELY allergic to them. Everytime he comes over my house and plays with them, he starts sneezing, itching/scratching and his eyes get watery, etc. I also grew up with severe allergies but I've never had ANY problems whatsoever with my 2 pooches. But my friend has a Maltese/Yorkie mix that she got from a shelter and I'm really allergic to him.

Great analogy!

I know what you mean and this hapens every day to many people. It's like rasicm for dogs now!!

I know how sad it is being told that you dog belongs on a street. This is the unaceptible outrages I HATE!! people thinking they are actually better because they have a piece of paper for thier dogs that states PURE BRED. I think both pure breds are the same as mixed in terms of love and caring. I agree that there are many dogs in shelters but even then I sell Morkies and if I don't sell them believe me shelters don't empty because of that there will alwaysbe 100 breeders makign these puppies pure bred and mixed in mass quantity more than what I make or can even handle. So it's a losing fight sorry to say unless new laws where to come out NOW!!

Never that
 

Hun I have mixed dogs and I would pay a million dollars if I could afford it to keep them healthy and happy. Really the price paid is up to you ... You found Rex and fell in love with him and Rex is a dog and therefor worth his weight in gold and more I am sure... I said under a previous post that I was done with the conversation so I only am posting to let you know that Rex is a beautiful dog and worth everything you paid for him and more :) I just would not cross breed on purpose myself if I ever became a breeder. And I for sure would be able to answer each and every question that was thrown at me about my dogs if I did breed.

I understand but unless new RULES ARE MADE FAST!!! the Mixed dogs will win the fight, especially since i have found ofer 100 puppy mills online (NOT BREEDERS PUPPY MILLS) ok soem have 15 different names but is the same person but I found 100 different names of puppy farms (mills). which product mixed breeds in mass quantity. What to do? I would suggest the CKC AND AKC offer registration for these puppies as a MIXED MUTT OR ANYTHIGN ELSE they want to call it make this registration very good so the puppy mills will want to have their puppies registered (clients will ask for it that way) and then BAM!!! catch them all on the act. the CKC AND AKC could check how many puppies are registered per day month week or year and base findings on standards as to (if it a puppy mill or not) This could work and people could make complaints. Directly to the CKC as sometimes (CITY HALL OR SPCA cannot do much) you have to understand that puppy mills are not entirely illegal (if the puppy has shelter food and water plus a clean environement then they are legal.) But if you create a mixed breed registry where the only time someone would want to purchase a mixed breed is registered on there then the CKC could deny application to registering litter and they would have to stop breeding in mass quantities. In the long run this could work but I don't see a solution by tomorrow morning.

Why not?

This reasoning is not logical imo. A breeder who breeds two different purebreds together also pays for their dogs, with care and puts money into them....

Why is the mixed breed dog of less value to you if all else is the same, it's cute, great personality, healthy? What is really the difference?

I don't understand your argument.

IMO people who try to make this argument shouldn't complain that people who buy the mixed or socalled "designer" breeds are into the "status" thing because it could be argued that it is the person who owns the purebred who is really the "status" lover and wants a purebred so they can be proud and people will know they paid more. it makes sense since they value the purebred so much more.

I do not believe this but the argument can easily be turned around.

Innovative idea. :)

Why do you decide to breed a certain type of dog? Because you love the breed...i just cannot understand why instead of trying to keep the characteristics of the breed you try to destroy it. Why mix it? That is what i cannot understand...i would never buy a mix dog, and that does not mean that purebreds are better or worth more than a mix...hell no, i have a chi mix that i adopted from the pound and he is worth the same as my purebred yorkie...and even being a mix did not mean he is healthier, we alread spent more with vet bills with him than with my 2 purebred dogs together. But by buying it we are helping this type of "bussiness" grow...and i don;t care if other people will do it, i just care that i am doing my part by alerting people of this practice.

You can say that a purebred takes also a place of a pound puppy and it might even be true...but purebred pedigreed dogs are always on demand and are easier to find a home, it is sad but true. But between having dogs bred to achieve the breed standard and mutts...i rather breed purebreds. If everybody bred responsably this would not happen...and there's no way in hell any breeder can guarantee that one of the puppies they sold will never end up in a shelter...

There is no way to make a breed better, you can make heathier, but the breed has already been established...and i am sorry, a mix to me even being from 2 purebred dogs and coming from "champion" lines still a mutt. And i don;t mean as i personall attack on anybody on anyone...most of my life my family had dogs that were found on the street...but to buy a mutt, never!

Oh for Gods sake Kim!!!! I won't use the word PURELY ok? He breeds for profit.There, happy now? We had a conversation about gouging yesterday, I really didn't want to revisit it but I will if need be.
Of course morkies are adorable, ALL puppies are adorable. I do think it is wrong to charge 1200 bucks for one, but then I think it is wrong to charge 8000 dollars for a pet yorkie. To me it is a question of ethics plain and simple.

Please understand that the status is not always there though and there are some people who do not haev anythign wrong mith pure or mixed breeds. And here in Canada we see it more often in cities that the Mixed dog will be more popular than the pure breeds. But don't get me wrong they don't all fight over this it's like any general asumtion of the world there are some good people and some bad people. I guess we will se stuck to deal with it for a while.

I think there will always be purebred dogs. I do not think that "adding" new breeds or mixes means you destroy or weaken the exisiting breeds. I think this a false argument. Breeders of purebreds will not stop if they are purely breeding to "improve the breed" and for the betterment of their beloved breed.

If a particular breed were to disappear then it will be because people no longer value it and that is just the nature of things.

This would never happen with the yorkie!

There is a new post on this thread every 2 seconds! it makes my head spin :rolleyes:

Geeez I know! I'm having trouble keeping up with all the comments.

I donnot care for breeders that breed only to make money. Don;t get me wrong, not all purebred will be show quality, hell, Mojo is not even close, but the breeder always aims to reach the standard and is in it for love and not profit. What can you say about a mix breed breeder? It does as it please, and i dont mean by the health issues...i am not tring to judge anybody, just giving my opinion.

At the moment that you take a yorkie and you make a "morkie" you are creating a mix breed and distroying the characteristics of the yorkie and maltese standards.

And i would have a mix, and i do, but i would never buy from a breeder who intentionally does it. To me it is no different from puppy mills and backyard breeders. IMO.

First let me say I love MUTTS. I found a mutt on the road when I was 10 and lured it home. She was my dog it followed me everywhere. She was my best friend when I didn't have any. She had been badly abused (would never come near any man) and thrown out onto the side of the road. It looks like hell right now. it's deaf, blind, and can't control it's bowels....it's coat is aweful because it's terrified of clippers, but it has a home and it is loved.

That being said I think the reason choose purebreds over mixes (and why they may be worth more) is there is more of a history to the personality of the dog (unless the dog is it's own grandpa). When you make a mix you are hoping to get the best of both breeds and this is great, but that doesn't always happen. It's like to people having kids if that always happened we'd have millions of gorgeous, nice people, but it doesn't. It's a mix of traits and characterists. What if a poor pup gets all the bad traits of both parents....is anyone going to want that pup. With a purebreed there is more of guaranty what the pups personality and look with be and i feel that's why they are more in demand.

Just so no one gets affended....i think Rex is the cutest dog ever and if anyone asked me what kinda dog he is I'd tell him he's the kind that makes a great friend.

I'm very curious how you manage to remain a member in good standing with the Canadian Kennel Club?
The CKC has [U]very strict rules[/U] for any and all members.The rules are clear.... You are not permitted to breed.... and or sell mixed breed dogs!PERIOD Each month the official section comes out with a long list of members in violation( Who have been fined, penalised and or had full membership to the CKC revoked for selling and breeding Mixed breed dogs.
I personally choose to follow the rules that the Canadian Kennel Club has outlined in the membership Guidelines in order to remain a member in good standing.
I think ("morkies" are adorable)However!
If your interest is in selling mixed breed dogs< and you have a right to do so>Just not as a Canadian Kennel Club Member... lol
This is why and how so many other registration clubs have started! :animal36
I am not familiar with any other registries here in Canada but know that many exsist in the states.