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Lexie Blue 07-02-2008 08:54 AM
I was reading up on Service Animals a little and it seems some states don't even have a certification for a service animal. A business can only ask if your dog is a Service Animal but they cannot ask for certification papers. Also google, emotional support animals in "no pets" housing. There's a lot of info. I'm sure there's a way around this. I'd start looking for a therapist/psychiatrist now (hehehe). You just may be able to have your cake and eat it too! Yay!

mscat 07-02-2008 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Lexie Blue (Post 2086980)
I'm sooo happy for both you and Pokey. No matter what happens, you'll be together. Don't make any hasty moves because, like everyone said, the new owners may not be able to do this, at least not while you still are under your lease. I work in a courtroom and I spoke to my judge. He advised me that the new owners shouldn't be able to change the terms of the lease until that lease expires. Now, once it your lease is up, that's a whole different ballgame. I think you should really look into Pokey being considered your "service" dog. That would be wonderful, then no one can refuse you and you'll have your baby with you always. I may even look into that -- LOL.
I live in a 'no pet policy" too . I am on SSDI and disabled. I had my doctor write a letter about having a service dog . What it is , is that you are requesting resonable accomadations for the animal. A "service dog" is not considered a pet by law. The dog is there for a purpose. So , by law , a landlord/owner is required to make resonable accomadtions in allowing a service animal. the only way they could get around it is if it was a financial burden to them, or if they would have to make structural changes to the unit. Be aware that the tenat does need to show proof of the disabilty. However, the tenat does not need to disclose the disabilty. A service animal is not the same thing as an emotional support animal, neither is a companion animal.
If you decide to go this route, then Be sure to have your doctor write that you need a "Service Animal" It is very important that the doctor use the right words in the letter .:aimeeyork
When you here back from the landlord/owner, be sure to have everything in writing. There is anther thing too. If a owner is going to evict a tenat, then it does go to court .SO they could actually have a hard time enforcing the new no pet policy to tenats who are already there, and signed a lease! Do not let these Owners bully you! Or scare YOU! that is what they are doing.
By the way, I was able to get a "service animal" My service animal is Suzi, she is now 4 months old, and she has already helped me tremendously! :aimeeyork

Lexie Blue 07-02-2008 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Yorkiefan49 (Post 2087014)
I have sought my own attorney and the tenants in my complex have sought one too. The kicker is that I clearly signed my contract and there is a clause stating that if the place is sold that I agree to abide by the new owners rules. So there is our fight. But I agree with the persom that said maybe all of us can confront the new owners in peace and plead to them that we came here for the the love of our pets. This place is known as an excellent pet home! I know for a fact we would all be willing to pay more of a pet deposit just to keep our babies here. (not to forget I already paid a $1000 pet deposit!) But if they let me keep her and my dream home I am willing to pay more!
I spoke to my judge regading this clause. He said its too ambiguous. That means a new owner would be able to come in two days later and change rent, length of lease, any number of things. People fight over contracts in court all the time. The owner would have a major fight with 150 contracts and that's a whole lotta $$$$ in attorney's fees.

Lexie Blue 07-02-2008 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by mscat (Post 2087024)
I live in a 'no pet policy" too . I am on SSDI and disabled. I had my doctor write a letter about having a service dog . What it is , is that you are requesting resonable accomadations for the animal. A "service dog" is not considered a pet by law. The dog is there for a purpose. So , by law , a landlord/owner is required to make resonable accomadtions in allowing a service animal. the only way they could get around it is if it was a financial burden to them, or if they would have to make structural changes to the unit. Be aware that the tenat does need to show proof of the disabilty. However, the tenat does not need to disclose the disabilty. A service animal is not the same thing as an emotional support animal, neither is a companion animal.
If you decide to go this route, then Be sure to have your doctor write that you need a "Service Animal" It is very important that the doctor use the right words in the letter .:aimeeyork
When you here back from the landlord/owner, be sure to have everything in writing. There is anther thing too. If a owner is going to evict a tenat, then it does go to court .SO they could actually have a hard time enforcing the new no pet policy to tenats who are already there, and signed a lease! Do not let these Owners bully you! Or scare YOU! that is what they are doing.
By the way, I was able to get a "service animal" My service animal is Suzi, she is now 4 months old, and she has already helped me tremendously! :aimeeyork
This is such great advice. I think there is definitely light at the end of the tunnel. I'm so relieved. And if they do try to evict, they may need to pay "relocation" fees.

mizzwanned 07-02-2008 09:11 AM
wow that is just plain wrong! I am so sorry. In my bf's building this couple had 2 dogs, a couple years ago. Well they were i think the only ppl in the building with dogs. The owner tried to ban the dogs and told them to get rid of them. Here there is a law that says if the dog has been living with you on your property for more than 90 days they are considered part of the property, or family. So they got an attorney, showed pics of the dogs when they are puppies in their apt. and they won and got to keep them there. I would def. fight and not let that guy get away with it. He is cruel!

RONLYNN 07-02-2008 09:13 AM
I just don't get the fact that the community has 2 dog parks and now they are saying no dogs??? That doesn't make sense to me!

Philly 07-02-2008 09:14 AM
Aren't the new owners breaching the contract? When you signed on, the contract said you could have a dog. If they breach the contract and you have to move - you wouldn't have to pay them anything.

I would seek legal help if I were you.

LuvmyYorkies2 07-02-2008 09:18 AM
Sorry you're going thru this. Good move to contact an attorney anyway. No matter if the contract/lease says you must abide by the new rules if sold, there should definitely be no way you should be conisdered breaking the lease and being penalized for it if you decide to me. If you do decide to move, I would definitely fight that part.

Onni 07-02-2008 09:26 AM
If it were me; I would start looking for another place to live, because if they are capable of that kind of tacky behavior, they won't stop there, and I would suspect living there with a pet or no pet will eventualy become a huge pain in the rear.

I would also call an attorney. You signed a lease under one understanding and they are changing that lease now. I would venture to say you may have a case, and if enough of the current residents banned together, you may have a class action law suit. To hold you accountable to the lease when THEY changed the peramiters is wrong at the very least and may be a point for a law suit.

Teryn 07-02-2008 09:43 AM
I, personally, would go the lawyer route because I am sure that a lot of people would not have moved in that place if it weren't for the area and pet friendly nature. A 60 day notice of that nature along with the ultimatum they gave you is preposterous, ESPECIALLY with the housing and economy crisis right now.

I think it would make a great lawsuit (if there is such a thing).

Keep up posted and I'll be thinking of you!

abbey lee 07-02-2008 09:44 AM
I agree, I would fight it. Shouldn't they be following whatever it says in your lease?! And does your lease not say it is OK for pets?? Maybe it would be OK to not let any new tenants bring dogs in b ut to tell exsisting tenants they have to get rid of their dogs?! I would fight it!! I agree-contact local news station and cause a big stir.

I mean, what if the new owners came in and said "Children are no longer allowed to live here." Would people have to ship off their kids?? They can't expect you to just give up a member of the family so easily.

Lou 07-02-2008 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Judy in Waco (Post 2086275)
That just sounds illegal somehow. Personally, I'd be contacting the media. That's just plain wrong. :thumbdown:mad:
I couldn't agree more. You simply must pursue all means before you move out or give up your baby. The new owners sound like criminals to me.

yorkiepup2 07-02-2008 11:42 AM
Hmmmm..........I think you could fight this one. If you have a 2 year lease, but then they change the terms of the lease by not allowing pets now......they are breaking the lease, not you.

SassyAnn101 07-02-2008 11:54 AM
The company I work for owns, leases, rents homes, apts, and condo's. They also buy and sell too. Our attorneys state that if rental property is sold and there is a binding lease with current tennents there is two options if the new owners want to make changes to anything contained in the rental agreement before term is up. New owners can opt to "buy out" occupants current lease and the tennent can agree to move, or wait until lease is up, then make the changes to new lease. If it is a clause of no pets, or new restrictions the new owner must provide in writing to each tennent the noted changes and give a 30 day notice even if the lease it up sooner.

mybirdys2003 07-02-2008 11:55 AM
Boy! I feel for you. And breaking a lease at the tune of $6000 is nothing to sneeze at. My prayers go out to you, and I hope you and the rest of the tenents can change the new owners minds---at least until the leases are up. It's the only right thing to do.!
Good Luck!
Pat

Tabatha00 07-02-2008 12:49 PM
First of all bless your heart!!!! I feel so bad for you and the situation they have put you in.

Secondly, you NEED to go see an attorney. Find out what your rights are NOW. I used to work for attorneys so I'm telling you that you NEED to go speak to an attorney because it seems to me that this is very underhanded and you would hate to look back and wonder "what if".......you know? You need to write out the details of you buying the dog, what the original condo owners told you, etc., etc., You can't write down too much information!!! Have the other people in your condo complex write letters as well. It wouldn't hurt to get the media involved either. Do you have a "investigative" reporter on any of the local news channels? If so, contact them and tell your story. I think what they are doing to ya'll and putting ya'll through is absolutely horrible and if someone stands up for those precious furbabies you will be glad you did. It probably won't be a cake walk but I'd rather go down knowing I did everything I possibly could than not fight the fight at all.

You hang in there and you fight for Pokey!!! You fight for Pokey and all the other furbabies and furbaby parents that love their animals just like their own children.

Wow......I guess I should say........I'm Tabatha Allen and I approve this message! lol

I don't think anyone should give you a hard time because I can tell by your post your heart is breaking wide open. HUGS!!!! Please keep us posted!!!!

YorkieRose 07-02-2008 01:06 PM
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An Attorney..as fast as possible. Some have a small fee for things like this...a friend paid $59 for a consultation to find out her rights...this is illegal.

melanie daley 07-02-2008 03:44 PM
Man this is a tuff one.... However, if you did sign the contract that says you will abide by any changes by possible new owners, well then that is going to be really tuff. That being said, it's even MORE reason to seek legal recourse. I would be contacting an attorney immediately, if not sooner.
Best of luck to you, I can't even imagine how devastating this must be... Please keep us posted!! x

Rusty's Momma 07-02-2008 03:47 PM
That is RIDICULOUS!!! I dont know how they can get away with saying you are breaking your lease when they are the ones changing the lease agreement.
I cannot believe it

TootiesMom 07-02-2008 04:54 PM
I would FIGHT!!! to the ends of the earth! It doesnt seem like they can get away with this, especially considering all of the tenants involved....
I would fight!

Sunnie 07-02-2008 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Yorkiefan49 (Post 2087014)
I have sought my own attorney and the tenants in my complex have sought one too. The kicker is that I clearly signed my contract and there is a clause stating that if the place is sold that I agree to abide by the new owners rules. So there is our fight. But I agree with the persom that said maybe all of us can confront the new owners in peace and plead to them that we came here for the the love of our pets. This place is known as an excellent pet home! I know for a fact we would all be willing to pay more of a pet deposit just to keep our babies here. (not to forget I already paid a $1000 pet deposit!) But if they let me keep her and my dream home I am willing to pay more!
I think I would find another attorney. I think that claUSE IN AND OF ITSELF IS ILLEGAL. tHAT IS LIKE SIGNING A BLANK CONTRACT. I just don't think it is legal in any contract to state that the contract can be changed at any time.

I think I would let them evict you, they cannot force you to pay the $6000 fine if they evict you which is basiclally letting you out of your lease

cesar49 07-02-2008 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Sunnie (Post 2088072)
I think I would find another attorney. I think that claUSE IN AND OF ITSELF IS ILLEGAL. tHAT IS LIKE SIGNING A BLANK CONTRACT. I just don't think it is legal in any contract to state that the contract can be changed at any time.

I think I would let them evict you, they cannot force you to pay the $6000 fine if they evict you which is basiclally letting you out of your lease
i agree.. find a new lawyer sympathetic to your story:)

go on the defense

Safire 07-02-2008 05:31 PM
They can stop new tenants from bringing pets in but they can't make existing pets go away. That goes against human rights. Fight it girl.

bruizersmummy 07-02-2008 05:49 PM
I agree with everyone on here. Fight for your baby. And get a doc to write a letter stating that Pokey is your service dog. Your lawyer is crazy if he/she thinks you are bonded to this just because it states that you have to obide by new owners rules if sold. You have a right!!! Get EVERYONE to sign a letter stating that if the new owners dont change their mind about the existing pets then you will sapiena (sp) them into court and fight your lease!

If all else fails, MOVE OUT! So what, you'll owe them $6000, fight that too! Then tell them "bill me" lol

But seriously, If that was truly your child, would you send it to its grandparents because someone told you to get rid of them? Well Pokey's your baby, and NO ONE would take my Babies from me!

Good luck hun, and keep us posted!

Mom to Hot Rod 07-02-2008 06:00 PM
I would get the other tenats together and hire an attorney ASAP! The very least they should grandfather the pets that are there currently. I was in the middle of purchasing a condo once just as they were changing the policy on animals and because I had just made the cut off, I was able to grandfather my 2 cats in.

I also agree with the other posters that the media will help with drawing attention to this issue...negative attention for the new owners.

I wish you luck with this and hope that everything works out for you and your neighbors.

Sugar 07-02-2008 06:11 PM
I think its ridiculous of the new owners. There must be something in the lease about it. How can they expect you to get rid of your pets. If it was a family community before and new owners took over to make it an adult community would they say get rid of your kids but your not breaking the lease or you will pay a fine? Something is not right here and all you pet owners should get together and figure it out. Stand up for your rights.

hviola 07-02-2008 06:19 PM
Take action, please. What I have learned in life the hard way is to not let people push you around and hurt you. You have every right as a US citizen to fight back.

Txgurl06 07-02-2008 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Yorkiefan49 (Post 2086233)
I will try not to make this too long winded. I have been a member here for a year and got my Pokey last October. I cannot have children so Pokey is my true baby. This last April I finally got my dream condo that I have been on a 6year waiting list for! Its been my dream for so long. In my complex there are 2 beautiful dog parks and all animals, even large dogs are accepted here. The community is gorgeous with walking trails, a river and the most dog friendly people. Well, the community sold to a new owner and that owner gave notice last month that ALL pets are now banned and we got a 60 day notice to vacate or remove pets. If we vacate however, they say we are breaking the lease, and for my 2 year lease I would pay a $6000 fine to move. Plus I am SO HAPPY here. I am so torn. Pokey can stay with my family nearby and will be very happy if I choose to go that route but I dont know if I can separate from her. But I cannot afford another move and the fine. Because Im in a lease, I am considering hiring an attorney with my other tenants (about 150 are willing to try to sue if we have any basis) I should be able to keep her here as a part of my lease agreement until the lease is up or be let out of my contract. But there IS a clause in my lease stating if the property is sold we MUST abide by the new owners lease/rules immediately. If I had known they might sell, I would not have purchased Pokey until I was sure. But back in October when I was at the top of the condo waiting list, they ASSURED me it was ok to get my baby and bring her there with me. So now if I have to rehome her and pay a fine I just am so torn.

What I am asking my fellow YTers for is understanding, support, advice and reassurance. PLEASE try not to make me feel anymore guily for even considering giving Pokey to my parents. I already feel like I m giving a child away and I feel like an unfit Mom. It has taken me a month to post this because Im so scared some people on here may scorn me. Please just tell me what you would do and try to understand my dilemma. This is my dream home. I would NEVER have done this to an animal had I been given the slightest inkling this could happen. 60% of why I waited so long for this home was because of the animal loving communtiy and the 2 dog parks WITHIN my residence. When I got word I was next to move in I started my LONG awaited Yorkie search and was blessed with my Pokey. I will stop rambling. Please just go easy on me with your comments. Thank you so much. I really need your support right now. I dont ever remember being this depressed in all my 35 years :(
sounds like if you have to stay till your 2 year lease and if not then you are breaking it then they must abide by the lease that you signed which includes your pet. I would def go the lawyer route. Sounds to me they cant do this.

Cookie2 07-02-2008 08:44 PM
How can they change the rules after you have a contract already? If you MUST leave then they should waive the $6,000 fine!

Genie,Cookie ,Lola & Angel

mypreciouspups 07-02-2008 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Judy in Waco (Post 2086275)
That just sounds illegal somehow. Personally, I'd be contacting the media. That's just plain wrong. :thumbdown:mad:
Judy I completly agree.. they cannot say you have to leave due to having a dog.. then tell you your breaking the contract... you need to stand your ground.. they need to grandfather all dogs that now live there and make new rules for the new people.. I would ask about this and not let these new owners brow beat you guys like this..
Please stand your ground.. and keep us updated on this forum..anne


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