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Emmsmom 06-28-2008 09:05 AM
It is a start but I have a problem with this...

Dogs could continue to be kept in cages but which can be stacked in no more than 2 rows and the lowest level may be no higher than 4 ½ feet from the floor or ground;

I guess you have to start somewhere....

Wigfur 06-28-2008 09:13 AM
THAT is wonderful,,, GOOD LUCK!

donatella80 06-28-2008 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Emmsmom (Post 2078129)
It is a start but I have a problem with this...

Dogs could continue to be kept in cages but which can be stacked in no more than 2 rows and the lowest level may be no higher than 4 ½ feet from the floor or ground;

I guess you have to start somewhere....
The excerpt that I posted is just part of the bill. There is also provision for out-of-cage exercise/run time every day. The cages must be cleaned daily and the dogs are not allowed to be in the cages while cleaning. It's pretty comprehensive in all.

Nancy1999 06-28-2008 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Emmsmom (Post 2078129)
It is a start but I have a problem with this...

Dogs could continue to be kept in cages but which can be stacked in no more than 2 rows and the lowest level may be no higher than 4 ½ feet from the floor or ground;

I guess you have to start somewhere....
Do you feel that they should never be in cages, not arguing, just wanted clarification.

MrsPeanut 06-30-2008 12:17 AM
This is a great bill, however I hate to sound pessimistic but I highly doubt puppymill owners will use this and if we are so fortunate as to catch them in the act then it will be a good day for the Yorkshire Terrier but how long will it take us too catch them....one day too later b/c at least dog will die before we can stop all puppymills and that is a fact. On a brighter note...one inch at a time and someday we will bury these puppymills owners so that they will never harm or touch a puppy again.

Nancy1999 06-30-2008 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by MrsPeanut (Post 2081343)
This is a great bill, however I hate to sound pessimistic but I highly doubt puppymill owners will use this and if we are so fortunate as to catch them in the act then it will be a good day for the Yorkshire Terrier but how long will it take us too catch them....one day too later b/c at least dog will die before we can stop all puppymills and that is a fact. On a brighter note...one inch at a time and someday we will bury these puppymills owners so that they will never harm or touch a puppy again.
Actually these laws are specifically designed for the puppy miller. Pennsylvania has more than it's share of puppy mills, and would gladly crack down on them, but first you have to have a law. Some of these puppy mills have AKC credentials, but again the AKC can't so anything about it if they are within, "state laws." So these laws should have a huge effect on the treatment of dogs in kennels, as well as banishment from the AKC. Of course the puppymillers will turn to the alternative registries, so it's important to inform others about the different standards in registries.

cesar49 06-30-2008 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2081783)
Actually these laws are specifically designed for the puppy miller. Pennsylvania has more than it's share of puppy mills, and would gladly crack down on them, but first you have to have a law. Some of these puppy mills have AKC credentials, but again the AKC can't so anything about it if they are within, "state laws." So these laws should have a huge effect on the treatment of dogs in kennels, as well as banishment from the AKC. Of course the puppymillers will turn to the alternative registries, so it's important to inform others about the different standards in registries.

This could be an example for all states. hopefully more states are enactiihg similar laws ...NOW.. this is great news:thumbup:

Rae Rae 06-30-2008 11:50 AM
It definitly sounds like a start! I think with these regulations, it'll be too much "work" for the owners of the mills, so hopefully it'll just put and end to it. I'm sorry, but I see commercial dog breeders as some of the laziest people on earth, they have to put dogs through such harsh conditions just so they can get a paycheck, and can't even provide proper care for the dogs! I don't see the millers being happy with this one!

Nancy1999 06-30-2008 12:13 PM
Lot's of the Puppy millers in Pennsylvania are Amish. The Amish, is a Christian religion that has some pretty old-fashioned principals. One of their main beliefs is that electricity is forbidden and these people are literally living in the 1800s. No television, computers or anything that gives them access to any new information. Its no wonder that the dogs are treated like livestock, however, I don't even think livestock should have to live in these conditions. The truth of the matter is that the puppy miller rarely makes the big bucks off these dogs. The sell them to brokers who sell them to pet stores and have cute website. We have to stop buying from petstores and websites if we really want to have a real impact on the puppy mill situation.

cesar49 06-30-2008 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Rae Rae (Post 2082387)
It definitly sounds like a start! I think with these regulations, it'll be too much "work" for the owners of the mills, so hopefully it'll just put and end to it. I'm sorry, but I see commercial dog breeders as some of the laziest people on earth, they have to put dogs through such harsh conditions just so they can get a paycheck, and can't even provide proper care for the dogs! I don't see the millers being happy with this one!
hopefully you are right.. and the evil lazy people who torture these poor animals will quit because it is too much trouble..we need some justice for these animals.. all puppy millers are stupid evil greedy and lazy:(

MyPeanutAbbyGra 06-30-2008 01:03 PM
FYI: Caesar Millan on QVC
 
oops, wrong thread!

MrsPeanut 06-30-2008 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2081783)
Actually these laws are specifically designed for the puppy miller. Pennsylvania has more than it's share of puppy mills, and would gladly crack down on them, but first you have to have a law. Some of these puppy mills have AKC credentials, but again the AKC can't so anything about it if they are within, "state laws." So these laws should have a huge effect on the treatment of dogs in kennels, as well as banishment from the AKC. Of course the puppymillers will turn to the alternative registries, so it's important to inform others about the different standards in registries.
Good Point thanks for that....how unforntunate that they would turn to other registries just to avoid treating animals more humanely....its a vicious cycle


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