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JeanieK 05-26-2008 09:19 AM
Parti Yorkie History

For those of you who question where the piebald gene came from.

I found this very interesting.

mrlmonroe 05-26-2008 09:33 AM
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I don't know - but we sure get a lot of compliments on Jeanie's colouring, and I don't think it's standard.........she's much darker than most (pics attached to show what I mean)

Pinehaven 05-26-2008 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2012057)
I wish I knew just half of what you know about genetics.
Thanks, I only know the general basics but I do try to keep on top of and educate myself about the genes that I'm interested in or am breeding for. Most of my knowledge comes from years of breeding Morgan horses, being editor, author, VP and board member for a group of "colorful" Morgan owners and breeders. The dog genetics is fairly new to me but is very similar in principal to the horses.

Pinehaven 05-26-2008 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2012075)
Parti Yorkie History

For those of you who question where the piebald gene came from.

I found this very interesting.

Gee, I'm embarrassed, it needs to be updated ... I wrote it prior to the DQ rule. Maybe after my daughter's wedding - :2omg:12 DAYS FROM NOW :2omg:- I'll have time to update the article.

Pinehaven 05-26-2008 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by mrlmonroe (Post 2012095)
I don't know - but we sure get a lot of compliments on Jeanie's colouring, and I don't think it's standard.........she's much darker than most (pics attached to show what I mean)
She is a pretty color (and very pretty girl), personally I like the sooty/smutty coloring like your girl has. It's not the standard for showing but I think it's beautiful!

MyTrixie143 05-26-2008 09:57 AM
I personally love all the colors, a yorkie is a yorkie regardless of color.

I can very well see how a maltese could have been added to the mix. They have dark pigment on their nose, eye rims and pads on their feet. But they can also have dark pigment elsewhere as well.
I have a male maltese who has dark pigment on his muzzle as well as his ears which is common with those with great pigment.

Have you ever seen some of the morkies some sell? I have seen quite a few that have a parti coloring to them when the parents were a standard yorkie and a stardard maltese.

Whether or not a maltese did make the parti gene possible I don't know but I can very well see how it could be possible.

JeanieK 05-26-2008 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Pinehaven (Post 2012109)
Gee, I'm embarrassed, it needs to be updated ... I wrote it prior to the DQ rule. Maybe after my daughter's wedding - :2omg:12 DAYS FROM NOW :2omg:- I'll have time to update the article.
The "DQ" rule ?????

Good luck on the wedding. My last daughter just got married 3 weeks ago. I'm so glad that's over.

Pinehaven 05-26-2008 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by MyTrixie143 (Post 2012125)
I personally love all the colors, a yorkie is a yorkie regardless of color.

I can very well see how a maltese could have been added to the mix. They have dark pigment on their nose, eye rims and pads on their feet. But they can also have dark pigment elsewhere as well.
I have a male maltese who has dark pigment on his muzzle as well as his ears which is common with those with great pigment.

Have you ever seen some of the morkies some sell? I have seen quite a few that have a parti coloring to them when the parents were a standard yorkie and a stardard maltese.

Whether or not a maltese did make the parti gene possible I don't know but I can very well see how it could be possible.

My mentor gave my daughter a Maltese puppy as a wedding gift a few months ago, and when she baths her, you can see darker pigmented areas on her pink skin. Her coat is all white but she has light skin freckles too.

I've seen some parti colored morkies that have the same markings as our parti yorkies and I've seen people advertise that the pups are from a maltese x yorkie cross but the yorkie was also a parti gene carrier in order for the parti color to be produced.

Pinehaven 05-26-2008 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2012138)
The "DQ" rule ?????

Good luck on the wedding. My last daughter just got married 3 weeks ago. I'm so glad that's over.

DQ rule - YTCA's color Disqualification Rule only allowing blue and tan dogs to show (supposidly black and tan adults will be disqualified now in the ring - prior to the DQ rule, black and tan were not automatically DQ'd for being off standard in color).

Thanks for the good wishes with the wedding ... I'm looking forward to the day after the wedding when I can REST! :-)

You've been a busy lady, a wedding 3 weeks ago and 2 new beautiful grand babies ... I'm tired just thinking about it! :-) Congrats to you and your family!

JeanieK 05-26-2008 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Pinehaven (Post 2012149)
DQ rule - YTCA's color Disqualification Rule only allowing blue and tan dogs to show (supposidly black and tan adults will be disqualified now in the ring - prior to the DQ rule, black and tan were not automatically DQ'd for being off standard in color).

Thanks for the good wishes with the wedding ... I'm looking forward to the day after the wedding when I can REST! :-)

You've been a busy lady, a wedding 3 weeks ago and 2 new beautiful grand babies ... I'm tired just thinking about it! :-) Congrats to you and your family!
Oh there was also my nieces wedding in Denver last weekend, and 2 litters of puppies this month.

I'm glad the month is almost over.

mrlmonroe 05-26-2008 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Pinehaven (Post 2012120)
She is a pretty color (and very pretty girl), personally I like the sooty/smutty coloring like your girl has. It's not the standard for showing but I think it's beautiful!
Thank you very much - we sure do love her and think she's beautiful!

TeddyandTiffy 06-02-2008 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkiekist (Post 2009913)
I dont "approve" the breeding of off colored Yorkies. They are not to the standard and never have been.The Yorkie has always been a tan dog with a blue saddle. The breeds used to create the Yorkie were not parti colored, blond or chocolate. There is alot of controversy over how and when the off colors came to be and since there was no DNA or kennel inspections back then, who knows if they are 100% Yorkes or a few mixes that started being bred in and over the years actually started to resemble Yorkies.

I do think that some of the parti colors ar pretty but shouldnt be bred for specificall and should never be sold as "rare" just so greeders can get a high $$$ from un-educated buyers which, it seems to me, is usually the case
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Julz 06-02-2008 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by love_me_cody (Post 2011418)
I have a question (Not Yorkie Related) but have anyone heard anything about a Maltese being able to produce a different color then all white (maybe a little color on the chest or so)?

When they are born, a lot of them have THE palest of tan markings on their head. This grows out and is all white by the time they go to their forever homes.

yorkiegirl2 06-02-2008 10:35 PM
I love the looks of the Biewers, the Parti's and the Black and Tans with soot faces.

scoobiedooiscoo 06-03-2008 07:16 AM
if thats what someone wants and its loved great. but they should also know its not standared. i love to see all the different yorkies.


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