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The expert said I like to watch this show on ANimal planet, but ashamed to tell you that I don't know the name of it....but it's this slender british lady with a ponytail and a convertable car who goes around helping people with their out of control dogs. Last night it was a mother/daughter with a male/female old english sheep dog that just ran the house. One of the first things the "expert" said was withhold affection down to one pat/hug a day. She said that in the pecking order of the pack the leader (alpha male) does not go around adoring the pack members, but that it was vice-versa. Now this got me to thinking.....is this where Mika got the upper hand in the household? Cause I couldn't kiss her little face enough or love on her enough. SOmetimes it seems that she just endured my kisses because she was SICK OF ME FOR THE DAY. But who in their right mind who has a yorkie can resist the 24 hour love-fest. What say you to the expert fellow members????? |
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I love that show! But I couldn't just do the once a day thing, so I wouldn't agree with that at all! I do the opposite...I may "ignore" Hot Rod once a day:D:D! |
OMG i love that show its me or the dog. i always watch to see if i can get some "tips." I cannot however withhold affections and love down to once a day! |
Victoria Stillwell and her programme over here is 'Its me or the dog! :D |
I am the Leader of the Pack in my dog house. I have never withheld affection but lavish it on them. I have never punished except to hollar yesterday when my pregnant bitch attacked one of my nine week old babies. I had only put them down for a "trial run" in the big dog room and I was there with them. She has never been aggressive in any way but being pregnant her hormones are running wild. I have found that an abundance of praise and loving goes a long way on establishing that YOU are the leader of the pack. |
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When experts such as this give advise they are referring to all breeds, and speaking to people who are having difficulty establishing dominance. There are other ways to establish dominance, but withholding affection from a yorkie is just too difficult for most of us. Walking is another way to establish dominance; and as the pack leader you should be slightly in front of your dog, this is much easier than not giving them lovin. |
I highly doubt that Victoria Stillwell said anything about "dominance" Leadership yes, not dominance. I record them on my DVR so I'll have to watch that one. Usually her solutions are drastic and temporary, until the dog learns what is expected of it. Typically she is dealing with dogs who have been allowed to run the show and need to learn otherwise. We learned something similar in training classes called NILIF - Nothing in Life is Free AKA No Free Lunch. In other words, you ask the dog to sit, come, down before you pet him, feed him, go for a walk, etc. You ignore bad behavior (like barking for attention) and reward them for good behavior (responding once they are quiet). Eventually the dog learns the house rules and the routine and you can lighten up. Loki knows he sits while he gets his leash on and off, so we no longer have to do NILIF for that (no sit=no walk) because he just DOES what he is supposed to do or what I ask him to do. Anyway, I like that show. :D ETA: Walking in front of your dog doesn't show the dog anything, except that you are weird. Dogs can respect us as leaders and walk in front of us. That sounds like it came from Cesar... |
What's the point of having any kind of pet if you can't love on it when you want? |
That show is called "It's me or the dog" with Victoria Stillwell. She's the greatest!!! |
Oh I love Victoria!!! I'm always watching her show, looking for tips! She's really good! |
I love that show, "It's Me or the Dog"! She had a cute little yorkie on there one time. I have made sure I'm the leader of the pack here, and my boys listen really well to me, and I have no behavioral problems. BUT, I never withhold affection. I think that, if you do it right, you can not only be the leader, but you can still be affectionate and loving with your dogs. My boys love to snuggle and be kissed, and I could never withhold affection. I think that affection is a great reward when they do something good. I never yell at my boys, but I tell them "no" in a stern voice. I think certain breeds require more human contact and attention than others, and yorkies are one of the breeds that seem to need lots of attention. Just one of the many things I love about them!:) |
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You know her tactic that really cracks me up???? The one where if the dog is not doing something you like you turn your back, fold your arms and refuse to respond. Now on the show when she does this the dogs "get it", and stop the behavior and look at your turned back like "what the hey???" You know what Miss Mika would do in a case like that??? Simply run around to your new side where you have turned, and continue doing whatever it was she was doing :D |
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One hug a day!!!:eek: Ya right!!! lol |
This really means no eye contact. You would be amazed at the effects it has on training. It works. Exercise,Discipline, Affection, works for any size pup. Quote:
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Really now I know the lady knows her stuff....I'm just being humorous... |
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We learned this technique in a Pet Smart training class; and I am aware that this is one of the techniques that Cesar uses, however, when I mentioned this to the trainer she just rolled her eyes and said I could forget everything Cesar said because they had different methods. I guess my point is that when one "expert" says something that goes against your inner feelings, it's not that important that you follow the rule, there are other ways to achieve the desired results, and there are lots of good experts out there who happen to have different advise. I would be cautious of anyone who acted like they were the last word in dog training. Take the advice that sounds best; try it and see if it works. I am a little puzzled as to why it looks "weird" to walk side by side or slightly ahead of your dog. Joey used to be a little puller, and I just love it when he "lets" me be dominant. :D |
I watch that show all the time and she really helps people get results. She really gives good advice and gets great results but the once a day hugging is just something I couldn't do, of course I don't have 90 pound dogs dragging me down the street - I might reconsider if I did. Those dogs did great though. She is much better than the Dog Whisperer. I read an article on him and he uses force, but this lady NEVER uses force or hitting and she get great results. |
I love that show! It amazes me how she can turn these dogs/owners around and these are dogs with major behavioral problems. I watched it this weekend and these people had two Yorkies that were dognapped from their car, they were able to get them back within a couple of days but in that short time the dognappers had turned these sweet little dogs from perfectly well behaved pets to unbearble (constant barking, aggressive, hating or afraid of everything, etc). It was so sad but she got them turned around and everyone back to the happy family they had been before. It's a great show, I always learn alot. |
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Sometimes it is problem when you read an article about something rather than going to the source, and learning for yourself. I have watched many of Cesar's programs and DVDs and he never suggests hitting a dog. So many people misrepresent what he does. You have to remember he works with many dogs that are so bad that they are going to be put down. They have been to many trainers before they get to him and he is their last resort. By "force" this is a nudge to the dog's neck area to get its attention, hardly painful, and certainly not as forceful as the dogs use on each other to establish the leader. I've really seen him work miracles. |
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