UPDATE!! Neighbors dog attacked Abbey...AGAIN!
 

WOW. So...I wrote a post a few weeks ago about how I took Abbey out and one of the girls that lives in the same building as me (and who I know fairly well) has 2 huge dogs and they both went after Abbey. Well, I got a lot of helpful ideas on how to deal with this...I chose to go talk to the girl and tell her that she needs to keep her dogs on leashes and I will also start taking Abbey on a leash NO MATTER WHAT.

Well...everything had been fine for a while and there were no hard feelings or anything, but just now I took Abs out and one of my other neighbors was out there with her weenie dog (one of the few Abbey "size" dogs Abbey feels comfortable playing with) and Abs and the weenie were running around playing. All of the sudden, the girl with the 2 big dogs comes out and only ONE of them is on a leash. Abbey was right there )her leash is one that extends pretty far out) and the dog just lunged at her and pinned her down. She was screaming and crying as they tussled her around. We immediately descended on them on broke it up. Abbey didn't have any cuts or anything but she was very shaken up and had peed all over herself.

Ugh! The girl with the 2 big dogs just started screaming "Oh my god, I hate my dogs!!" and was HITTING her dog that had attacked Abbey.

I had to ask her AGAIN to ALWAYS keep BOTH dogs on leashes bc they could really KILL my 3 pound dog with one snap. She apologized and agreed that it was not OK. I ran inside to fully check Abbey out and she was acting really "little" (as we say, acting like a baby). I felt so bad for her. I wonder if she is always going to have a fear of other dogs now.

I'm sure after this, the 2 big dogs will be kept on leashes. But this is just another event that makes me terrified to even take Abbey out.

Isn't it stressful having such a delicate dog???

From now on, when I go take Abs out on her leash, I am going to check to see if there are other people out first, and if there are I won't go. And if we are out and someone does come out, I'm picking her up and bringing her in.

I thought having a doggy would help me be closer to my other neighbors bc they all have dogs, but now it is just causing a big rift. My baby is most important and I just feel that people with "big" dogs have NO IDEA how protective you have to be when you have a small one.

OK, done venting.

OMGosh, my breath froze when reading your post. That must have been so scary!! Poor Abby!

Your so much nicer than me.

I would have after this second attack told her she needs to get rid of those dogs and since she "hates" them that shouldn't be difficult, then I'd go to the building management. It's not fair your Babies are at risk all the time.

It's nice that your so kind and level headed :)

Well, sometimes this is not good for me. Sometimes I think I am TOO nice. I just feel bad yelling at her bc I know she is close to her dogs and has never had an issue with them going after smaller dogs (she is really close to the girl with the weenie dog and her dogs get along with the weenie just fine). She was really apologetic and seemed shocked and reprimanded her dogs quickly and sent them upstairs. Even at one point she was apologizing profusely and I said "It's OK" and she said "NO! It's NOT OK." And she's right, it was not OK and I shouldn't have said that.

Ughhhh I am TOO nice, I do this all the time in all kinds of situations... As long as her dogs are on leashes from now on I don't think I will complain to management. But they will NEVER come in contact with Abs again, I'm lucky she wasn't hurt.

OH MY GOODNESS... You are WAY nicer that I am!!! :mad: There are leash laws for this very same reason. I personally would have phoned animal control followed by ground management. Hugs to Abbey... Glad to hear that she wasn't seriously injured. :justahug:

The girl with the 2 big dogs just started screaming "Oh my god, I hate my dogs!!" and was HITTING her dog that had attacked Abbey.

No excuses to hit a dog!!!!! I would call SPCA right away if I was you...

Thanks god your baby is ok....

you should encourage her to play with other friendly dogs right now... so won't be traumatize by other dogs in the long run...

Yeah right when we came inside I said "Go tell Nuppy" and she ran to Nuppy (my boyfriends collie mix) and cuddled with her (she is her safe haven).

I didn't want her to hit the dog either. I cannot bring myself to call animal control. These dogs have a good home with this girl and she loves them and I don't want to take them away from her, I just want her to be more responsible.

you ARE TOO NICE......stop being so nice, her dog attacked your twice....that would do it for me! sorry if that comes off wrong, but its your poor dog! i would call animal control, good home or not....its wrong for her dogs to be off lease...does your state have a leash law?

SPCA do not take dogs away after receiving only one call, IF they get a few complain, then they will go check on the dog and give a verbal warning to the owner... nothing more...

I just think that someone should tell this girl that hitting the dog for sure won't help with the aggression problems.. thats all.

I just get soooooo sad when someone hit there dog....

What really matter anyway is that you precious little one is safe...

You are a good mommy!!

I do understand what you are saying and if Abbey was injured, I would call. But I am a lover of all dogs, and these dogs were following dog instincts and I don't want to punish the DOGS bc they have an irresponsible OWNER. We do have a leash law, and I did explain that to her and tell her that if i do see them without a leash again, whether anything happens of not, I will contact management. It's a difficult situation any way you look at it...

Thanks for the info. I am trying to handle this situation the best way I know how to for everyone. It is even worse when you are friends with the person whose dogs did this. I will talk to her further now that I have calmed down a little, bc I didn't really get a chance to say everything I needed to say bc I rushed to get Abbey inside. I agree that hitting a dog never helps but I think she was just shocked and did not know how to handle it. She wanted me to see that she was "reprimanding" the dogs. Oh, what a sticky situation, thanks for the encouraging words though!

Poor Abby..disgusting that she is so stupid.

First of all it doesn't sound like an aggression problem exactly. It sounds like her dogs are not properly socialized or disiplined. how old is this girl? These dogs sound as if they could definatly hurt something or someone if this "pinning-down" dominance behaviour isn't stopped. Invite her to yorkietalk! (even though she doesn't have a yorkie she could learn alot)

Even in a rental property that allows pets...those pets must NOT be a nuisance to other tenants....at this point she isn't being responsible. I would contact management...and have it documented each and every time.

So glad that Abbey is okay. It is a shame that other people don't realize what damage their animals can do.

I agree with this ...if they were vicious you wouldn't have a dog anymore :(

she needs to NOT hit them for something like this - it only instills fear & it's her fault all the way cause they weren't on a leash -

TALK TO HER - tell her how you feel and about her hitting them and say her dogs HAVE TO BE ON A LEASH or you'll be forced to report it. You can stay friends as long as she gets responsible. It sounds like she felt terrible and she should - it was her fault...but things can be resolved if she does her part and quits letting them run free.

That's what happened to the girls and I while we were on our walk - a pitt OFF LEASH charged us (I grabbed the girls and held them under my chin) & while I wasn't scared - I was waiting for a chuck of my body to be removed by very sharp teeth - but no way was that dog getting my girls

She's my age, like 22. She is young and probably has a lot of other things going on. Most people my age (who are in college) they get dogs and then they do not have the proper amount of time to spend with them and train them. I don't want Abbey to fear these dogs...it's extra hard bc she has been living there for a couple of years and I recently moved in and all these people have always taken their dogs out with no leash (not just her). So I'm like the new kid on the block with the tiny dog that is demanding leashes when these dogs have not been on leashes for a very long time. But it IS necessary bc even before I had Abbey the dogs would run and jump on ME, which I did not really appreciate.

A lot of people are telling me to complain to management or call animal control, but I feel if I just sit her down, and kindly talk to her, she is more likely to understand and follow through with keeping them on leashes. If I run and tell management she will know it was me and most likely resent me and be less likely to restrain her dogs. Not to mention, she is still my neighbor and before getting outside people involved I would like to try and civily work it out with her one on one.

Thanks for the advice though... :thumbup:

These dogs are, in fact, living in her apartment ILLEGALLY. At my complex you are allowed 2 animals MAX. She has these 2 large dogs and 2 cats. From speaking with her personally, I also found out she has not paid the pet deposit on any of her pets. If the complex found out she was keeping 4 animals they would force her to get rid of 2 and pay over $1000 in fees for the other ones she kept. They may even evict her. This is also a problem with complaining to management, they would come down on her hard and force her to fork over lots of money. This on top of our already ridiculous rent would no doubt clean her out. While I don't agree with her having the dogs if she is not able to pay the pet deposit, I know how hard it is being a struggling colleghe student. I was lucky enough to have my grandmother help me with my deposit for Abbey.

I also hate my management and the way they handle things. They most likely would not be concerned for my dog but more concerned with collecting money...they are money hungry.

For this reason, I am choosing to keep it between me and her, bc she is more likely to listen to me if I am calm with her. She knows I have the power to get her lots of fines, soooo chances are she won't mess up again and will keep them on leashes.

Totally agree and i wasn't suggesting that you go to management as, like you say, she probably has alot on her mind/plate and i think more neighbours should be as nice and understanding as you are. :) (you should still invite her to yorkietalk)!

I am sure the girl was not as upset with her dogs as she was with HERSELF and was just taking it out on the dog. Because it was HER fault not the dog's.
This is the very reason I use a harness and a 6 foot leash. I can have Bella reeled in close to me and pick her up without even bending over.
A 6 foot leash not one that extends out allows for better control. Maybe if you try it you wont have to avoid other dogs all the time, just the bigger ones. So sorry you are having these problems:(

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This young lady is not being responsible, she must learn to be a pack leader. The next incident might be a child, for the children and other dogs safety she and her dogs need professional help. TAKE THEM TO SCHOOL!!!!--the next time something happens the incident may be so tragic [ it might not be your dog, but some little kid ] that these dogs might be put down! Tell her they will be happier [if they are trained]and everyone else will be too. She will have to find the time and money----if she wants to be a good neighbor,person,owner and pack leader. --D.W.:animal-pa

I am so glad to hear Abbey is Ok I was so worried reading this post. :(

I live in a condo complex as well and it is scary as we have other dogs who live there and some are on leashes some are not. Another annoying thing is all sharing a lawn and how other owners let their dogs poop all over the lawn and everyone gets asked not to bring their dogs out anymore because people don't pick up after themselves!!

But honestly this post has opened my eyes because even though the other dogs seem harmless they can do damage merely because of the size difference.

abbey gets extra treats and kisses tonight ;)

In my opinion, you are handling the situation the way it should be handled. And it sounds like you've thought in advance about how to not let it happen again :) :thumbup:

I'm glad that your Abbey wasn't hurt. :aimeeyork

I feel for little Abbey but I also feel for you. I to am TOO nice alot of the time and its hard to get past that behavor. I hope you can grow from this and be the stronger person for youe puppy AND yourself.:hug:

Same here. Thank goodness little Abbey is ok, poor baby. :(

Thankfully Abbey is fine, this the reason Lottie barks at every dog she meets.:( She was grabbed by another dog and I had to pick her right up and then it happened again with another bigger dog :eek: Which ended up scratching the back of my legs as it was trying to get at Lottie.....so she barks at every dog she see's unless she knew them from before and with them she is allright
It has also made Alfie very protective of her :confused:

I hope that Abbey will get over this and you too but it is difficult not to worry about them.

I think from now on she will be a bit weary of bigger dogs (which may be a good thing). From my experience, even dogs that are kind and gentle may snap and go after a smaller dog. They view them as the see squirels, rats, and other small creatures they like to chase. It is simple dog instinct. Thankfully, she has Nuppy to reassure her that not all dogs are evil.

But you can never be too careful. When I was younger, I had a yorkie named Tasha who was very tiny. She lived with our BIG sheep dog, Jazz for years. And Jazz was always very kind and gentle with her and the sweetest dog you will ever meet. Even when Tasha would get in her face. Well, one night we came home and found Tasha bloody on the back porch. Jazz had bit her and she was dead.

This is a trajic story, but it shows how the kindest of dogs can turn on a little one. And how fragile our little ones are that one snip can kill them...

some people are just irresponsible no matter what size dogs they have any just take it for granted things will be ok im glad your little dogs ok though

OMG that is horrible i'm glad both u and ur baby r ok.

That's so scary:eek:! I'm glad that Abbey is okay, my goodness:cry: Can you report this girl to the management of the apartments? I'm sure that there is a leash law in your area, call the non-emergency police number and ask about that, or animal control. That's just BULL that you can't even walk your dogs without fear:(

Hugs!!!