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critterlvr 04-02-2008 12:02 PM
Attn: Bjh-----i'm Mad !!!!!!!
 
:mad: How dare you - Bjh - put the lives of dogs in danger with your false statements. Heartworms DO NOT die on their own. When you find out your dog has HW's it needs to be treated as soon as possible. If not, your pet WILL die. There are cases of dogs dying DURING treatment. Not because of the treatment. If you do not catch the heartworms in an early stage and they have had it for awhile, the dogs chances of survival is greatly diminished. Get your facts straight before you go preaching to people who might take your advice. (God forbid) Southeast Texas is the worst place to not give HW Prevenitive. Talk to your vet before listening to BJH.......:mad:

FL Tink 04-02-2008 12:38 PM
sorry but who is bjh? is there a thread to link to?:confused:

melanie daley 04-02-2008 12:44 PM
WOW... yeah who is this BJH????

ryorkies 04-02-2008 12:44 PM
:scratchhe :scratchhe :scratchhe

wookie 04-02-2008 12:47 PM
Me too, I'm :confuse8:, :confused:, :confuse2:, :questione

(I'm just soo hooked to these smiley faces! Can't you tell??) hahaha

Mybabyboymax 04-02-2008 12:48 PM
she is a member here

I dont agree that was the right way to approach the issue

Nancy1999 04-02-2008 12:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by critterlvr (Post 1892664)
:mad: How dare you - Bjh - put the lives of dogs in danger with your false statements. Heartworms DO NOT die on their own. When you find out your dog has HW's it needs to be treated as soon as possible. If not, your pet WILL die. There are cases of dogs dying DURING treatment. Not because of the treatment. If you do not catch the heartworms in an early stage and they have had it for awhile, the dogs chances of survival is greatly diminished. Get your facts straight before you go preaching to people who might take your advice. (God forbid) Southeast Texas is the worst place to not give HW Prevenitive. Talk to your vet before listening to BJH.......:mad:
This is a really inappropriate post, you should respond in the original thread. Taking one line from her post is irresponsible, and misleading.

KathyinCali 04-02-2008 12:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by critterlvr (Post 1892664)
:mad: How dare you - Bjh - put the lives of dogs in danger with your false statements. Heartworms DO NOT die on their own. When you find out your dog has HW's it needs to be treated as soon as possible. If not, your pet WILL die. There are cases of dogs dying DURING treatment. Not because of the treatment. If you do not catch the heartworms in an early stage and they have had it for awhile, the dogs chances of survival is greatly diminished. Get your facts straight before you go preaching to people who might take your advice. (God forbid) Southeast Texas is the worst place to not give HW Prevenitive. Talk to your vet before listening to BJH.......:mad:
You know what? HOW DARE YOU to come on here with such a nasty mean note! We don't do things this way here on YT. If you disagree with something then find a constructive way to say it vs. calling someone out is this ridiculous manner.:mad:

wookie 04-02-2008 12:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KathyinCali (Post 1892841)
You know what? HOW DARE YOU to come on here with such a nasty mean note! We don't do things this way here on YT. If you disagree with something then find a constructive way to say it vs. calling someone out is this ridiculous manner.:mad:

:yeahthat:

Saleswman 04-02-2008 12:55 PM
I agree....there is a proper way to defend your statements
 
Ouch......


Not a good way to voice an opinion.....:confused:

We don't do things that way here.....we are more respectful.

cj_michi 04-02-2008 12:56 PM
I have nothing to say about this matter but the OP is referring to the following thread.(For those that wanted to know what thread OP was talking about) Read post #25

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=123882

bjh 04-02-2008 12:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by critterlvr (Post 1892664)
:mad: How dare you - Bjh - put the lives of dogs in danger with your false statements. Heartworms DO NOT die on their own. When you find out your dog has HW's it needs to be treated as soon as possible. If not, your pet WILL die. There are cases of dogs dying DURING treatment. Not because of the treatment. If you do not catch the heartworms in an early stage and they have had it for awhile, the dogs chances of survival is greatly diminished. Get your facts straight before you go preaching to people who might take your advice. (God forbid) Southeast Texas is the worst place to not give HW Prevenitive. Talk to your vet before listening to BJH.......:mad:
Sorry, Donna, I was asked my opinion on heartworm medication and I gave my opinion based on research that I have found. This is part of what I found:

Quote:
Dr Martin Goldstein, in his book, "The Nature Of Animal Healing" pp, 220, 221, 223, says: "Granted, heartworm is a serious condition...

A few caveats are in order, however. Only a small percentage of dogs who get heartworm die of it, especially if they're routinely tested twice yearly for early detection. Even in untreated dogs, after a period of uncomfortable symptoms, the adult worms die... The chances of a microfilaria-infected mosquito biting your dog the first time are slim. Of it happening to the same dog twice? Very slim...Early in my career, I saw and treated hundreds of cases of heartworm disease, most with routine medication, yet witnessed only three deaths (the last was in 1979). By comparison, we're seeing, cancer kill dogs on a daily basis. To my mind, the likelihood that toxicity from heartworm pills is contributing to the tremendous amount of immune suppression now occurring, especially in cases of liver disease and cancer, is far greater and more immediate than the threat of the disease they're meant to prevent...
I would not condemn anyone for using heartworm medicine if that is what they choose to do. Just like if someone want to give their dog the lepto shot, that is a personal decision we all have to make. I just advise people what I do and why I do it. I advise people to do research and don't just do something they feel uncomfortable with just because someone told them that is what they should do. Doctors and vets are not always right. Look at all the new drugs that come out and doctors start prescribing them for patients and the next thing you know we find out that that 'new' drug is causing all kinds of different health problems. There are safe alternatives for heartworm prevention and people should know about them. Please read and educate yourself:
http://quikonnex.com/channel/item/13049
http://www.nbc5i.com/family/3345322/detail.html
http://www.theherbsplace.com/Heartwo...on_sp_104.html

Gingergirlsmom 04-02-2008 01:00 PM
Bravo BJH on a mature, thought out, and reasonable answer to this ridiculous attack.

deb22 04-02-2008 01:02 PM
:thumbup: :yeahthat:

PrincessDiana 04-02-2008 01:09 PM
Admin, please close this thread.

FL Tink 04-02-2008 01:09 PM
Oh my!
We all come here for information. Most of us here do tons of research before we do things for our babies! We ask for advice, but we still do research.
Everyone here has a right to post their opinions or research results without fearing they will be attacked or singled out.

If I told you guys the sky was a rainbow swirl today I bet you would go check it out for yourselves! Doesnt mean I was seeing it the way you would!

I do not believe BJH was instructing anyone not to protect their babies.:rolleyes:

I believe she was just providing her findings period. the end.

NanaDtreasures 04-02-2008 01:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gingergirlsmom (Post 1892864)
Bravo BJH on a mature, thought out, and reasonable answer to this ridiculous attack.
I agree and hope this post is removed.:mad:
I give BJH credit for even answering....
I have never seen such a personal attack
With it in the title no less.
There is nothing wrong with bringing up new things.
She never told US to do it...:confused:

pepe mint 04-02-2008 01:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KathyinCali (Post 1892841)
You know what? HOW DARE YOU to come on here with such a nasty mean note! We don't do things this way here on YT. If you disagree with something then find a constructive way to say it vs. calling someone out is this ridiculous manner.:mad:
very well said.

wow!!!:eek: :eek:

Susan123 04-02-2008 01:16 PM
I'm sure OP is very emotional and is entitled to her opinion also. When I was younger I had a GSD with heartworms, at deaths door. He received medical treatment and was absolutely fine afterwards. But with the heartworms before treatment, I didn't think he'd make it through the night. So when I see a post like this I have to think that this person may have been through the same thing, or worse.

In the thread referred to, lurkers must be considered. There are many well intentioned people trying to learn. There may be some that want to save money and not buy heartworms preventatives anyway. But it really is up to the individual to research and not go by one post. I'm in Florida...mosquitos are awful and they do get in my house sometimes when the doors open.

I don't believe heartworms die on their own (I didn't read that opinion on the thread it may have been in one of the links). They may die after they kill a dog. Not even after reading a website (or 100) about it would I believe it.

Thank goodness we have treatment, but I'm also thankful for the preventative. JMO

Ichabob 04-02-2008 01:25 PM
I think that all of us who live in the south know about heartworms, in one form of another, that being said I live in swamp state of Mississippi, so yes all 4 of my dogs are on heartworm med. I don't like giving it to them but I think it's the right thing to do.

MrsPeanut 04-02-2008 01:41 PM
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: I agree

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gingergirlsmom (Post 1892864)
Bravo BJH on a mature, thought out, and reasonable answer to this ridiculous attack.

janc 04-02-2008 01:52 PM
My friend's husband was a chiropractor and they didn't give their dog heartworm pills because they said that they would kill them. Their dog died at 7 from heartworms.

Brooklynn 04-02-2008 01:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bjh (Post 1892854)
Sorry, Donna, I was asked my opinion on heartworm medication and I gave my opinion based on research that I have found. This is part of what I found:


I would not condemn anyone for using heartworm medicine if that is what they choose to do. Just like if someone want to give their dog the lepto shot, that is a personal decision we all have to make. I just advise people what I do and why I do it. I advise people to do research and don't just do something they feel uncomfortable with just because someone told them that is what they should do. Doctors and vets are not always right. Look at all the new drugs that come out and doctors start prescribing them for patients and the next thing you know we find out that that 'new' drug is causing all kinds of different health problems. There are safe alternatives for heartworm prevention and people should know about them. Please read and educate yourself:
http://quikonnex.com/channel/item/13049
http://www.nbc5i.com/family/3345322/detail.html
http://www.theherbsplace.com/Heartwo...on_sp_104.html
Just to clarify it's not this Donna but someone else ( In case anyone was wondering LOL )

Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers


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