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you need to establish the alpha male roll and show you arent scared. if he snaps at you or your other dog you should roll him over on his back and hold him there until he submits to you and stops squirming or biting. your dog will respect you and love you a lot more if you take control. hiring a trainer to teach you how to do this properly is a good idea. you are on the right track! |
I have one that needs a little reminder every now and then. |
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Can someone explain what situations to use the alpha male roll in? I've been doing it for humping and the food/toy aggression, but should I use it in others? |
The alpha roll is very dangerous to use actually when trying to show your dominance. It could easily end in a bite to the person trying to use it on the dog. I highly suggest you consult a trained behavorist who can walk you through step by step how to deal with aggression (if this is what is happening). Everyone on this site I'm sure wants to help you, but really in cases of aggression you need a trained proffesional. |
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Thanks hon, yes, I have been laying him on his back and he is fiesty and resisting but I wont GIVE UP:D ...the battle for the boss is on:thumbup: :D |
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But I have noted several times I have called and left word for the trainer behaviorist |
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I had a Rotwiller/Newfoundland mix that tried that and I had a time training him but in the end he became the sweetest non aggressive boy in the world. I would give him a bone then take it away while I growled at him! I used a glove just in case. By 1 yr old he was trained but it wasn't easy. At eight months he weighted over 100 lbs. BE AGRESSIVE!!! He needs to know you are alpha now and learn you are the boss. If you don't get him properly trained he will end up biting someone and need to be put to sleep. It really is not his fault, he needs a tough hand to train him. |
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I am making a little head way, husband thinks I am being too aggressive and that I should SPEAK gently to him HA, If I do, I might as well give him my bed and I sleep in the crate:eek: Well since my last post this is what I did. I fed him BUT I made sure my hands were all in his food bowl, so he had to approach ME and the bowl to get his food, while he is eating it, I am picking up a bit with my hand still inside the bowl and presenting it to him from my fingers, he took it and nibble a few times on the fingers. Then I laid my FOOT over the bowl when he tried to eat it when my hands were out of the bowl, he backed off, I moved my foot, he came to the bowl I took foot and covered bowl again, he backed off, I did this several times until he approached the bowl with CAUTION:D . He ate his food and while eating I took bowl and LIFTED it, so he had to eat from the bowl that was now in my hands:eek: . I WAS not scared this time. Then after dinner and took him on his back in my lap, resisting or not and firmly told him NO NO NO, and proceeded to cut the hairs from below his feet in the pads. he resisted a bit until I said several times NO NO NO NO. he succumed to that. Boom, next I just finished CUTTING HIS TOE NAILS:eek: , now this surprised me as I had not done this before, instead of him biting my hands he was licking the hell out of them. Does this mean he is becoming a good boy:confused: I have also been taking his chewies away and feedig it to him in my hands so he has to lick hands and chewey to get it. Still not comfortable with this but I will continue. |
Way to go...sounds like progress. |
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I am working at it, it may take a while but I will not stop:D |
Good job!!! |
So this pup is overweight, extremely aggressive, refuses to use the bathroom outside even though you take him out for 30 minutes at a time, howls all night, AND has health problems? And all of this in such a short period of time! Gosh, I guess you have your hands full... |
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YEAH! You are on the right track. As soon as he figures out your alpha and the boss he will do anything to please you! Just be very consistent and he will be a wonderful dog. This makes me miss my big boy Grizzley the ( rotwiller/Newfindland mix) Now I have all small dogs and only 7 of them :rolleyes: |
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But I would be a bit more aggressive with calling the trainer behaviorist. He has to answer his phone sometime. Perhaps you got your new doggie too soon after losing Scooby??? And your new pup can sense that loss? BTW, I am so sorry about your loss ... :-( Good Luck with the new baby! |
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Hha, I was confused by the above post also. yes, she does have her hands full and she is asking for our help. Why reiterate her problem? |
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Yes, I do agree with that. poor girl. And she recently had her Yorkie pass away. :cry: that is a lot to deal with. |
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It could be, and I had not planned on getting a pup unbtil about April May, but when this one was offered to me I jumped at it. He is just high strong and needs a dominant hand of control, I am working at it, it will take time. the trainer beahviorist is a she, and I will see her nevertheless, tomorrow at dog school, she also has a full time job as a Banker so I am not surprised I have not heard back from her yet. |
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You are so sweet, thanks for your support. Yes, he is a good dog deep down, I think all dogs are, some just get a rough or bad start, I wont give up on him. He has also stopped howling as I crate him, cover the crate and put him next to the bed, sleeps like a rock:D All good things come in time |
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I feel so sad for her and agree with you for caring and supporting her.. |
I am so sorry to hear of the problems you are having with your pup but it does sound like you are starting to make a little progress. I believe that the food handling by you while he is eating is very important to establish dominance. Every pup we've ever gotten we've started immediately with with training at the food bowl. First I or my husband would put our hands into the food bowl while the pup was eating. Taking the bowl away then giving it back again. As long as that went well we would then sit with my kids on the floor and we would all put our hands into the food while they were eating. Messy but effective. We then would proceed on with treats - taking them away, giving them back. We ran into a problem when we got our St. Bernard pup. She was about 4 months old at the time we received her. She was very aggressive if you went near her bowl, snarling & growling. I tried to use my firm voice with her but it didn't seem to work. The magic trick with her was my husband. He used his deep firm voice with her and she immediately backed down from the confrontation. I believe it was the deepness of his voice that made her rethink who was dominant. She is now 155 pounds and a big old mush. My Daisy was fine with the food bowl but a little meanie when it came to anyone getting near her treats. She would bare her teeth and try to run away with it. Luckily, deep voice dad helped out again. They had a stand off. He went to take her treat, she snarled. He raised his voice at her, she bared her teeth then backed away and backed down. He took the treat away, gave it back, over and over. She turned out just fine after that and to this day is good about her treats. Maybe it would help to have your husband help you with the handling and use his deep voice to discipline the pup. Hope it all works out for you. :) |
My husband is a trainer so I know how much work and dedication goes into this. It sounds like you are on the right track and doing wonderfully :) :thumbup: I wish you all the luck in the world with this little guy and I hope in the end he will be a loving member of your family. Please let us know how the class went. |
you said that hes from a reputable breeder Im sorry but no dog with this many problems is from a reputable breeder i think you were lied to Big time this dog needs way more then classes he needs a one on one trainer NOW & a New vet for his Health Problems he needs a full check Meaning lots of tests he May have Pain somewhere OR hes been Badly abused I wish you luck Mabee he needs a home with no other dogs & someone that has 24 hours to train him because hes gonna be alot of work |
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There is nothing wrong with your dog. He is simply taking the role as "pack leader" since you won't. Dogs MUST assign a pack leader if there is none. Most dog trainers will fail you, since your dog is just being a DOG. 99% of problem dogs stem from the owner not being in control. Learn dog psychology with the Dog Whisperer and become the "pack leader" and no dog in your house will EVER "take over". People should NEVER let a dog run their house. p.s. Tivoing = ever hear of TIVO? or a DVR? just search for THE DOG WHISPERER. Hope you do it and you'll see ther really is no better way! Not to mention, your dog will be happier since being the pack-leader is a lot of work for them. They have an easier life if YOU are the leader. |
I totally agree about the whole pack leader thing. I too watch the dog whisperer. He is so right. My yorkie used to try and dominate any male that came into my house. I told them to hold him down firmly by the neck and look him in the eye and say no deeply until he looks away. Now whenever a guy comes over he is nothing but a baby, turning on his back waiting to be pet! It takes time and patience but you can get that dog under control, definetly |
I hope things are getting better now. Keep us updated on your progress! |
Im sorry i'm really confused, i don't come on to yt too much lately, i was just reading some of you're last few posts as i thought i remembered reading that you were having trouble with a new dog months ago. I'm just muddled as to what dogs you have and who is aggressive?? one of you're posts yesterday says that you have to muzzle bandit?? Are all the dogs aggressive? Wish you luck anyway, otherwise you'll be keeping that dog trainer in business all by yourself! We get the dog whisperer over here now aswell, he's amazing, just watch him and learn and you'll save a mass of money not paying that trainer aswell. :) |
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