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Akc So what you are saying is..I have no "pull" with AKC? LOL I have known far too many of these situations and it is good for a novice or foggy brains to see it in print... I do know of several breeders who refused to sign papers when they suppected the pups were not from their stud etc....one was okay with AKC because the litter was a Maltese mix (bitch owner has a Maltese male) and she was told the litter would not be accepted, plus she was within her rights to keep the stud fee since the service was provided and the bitch owner was at fault for accidently breeding... BUT when another breeder discovered she had been lied to about where the pups were being placed she refused to sign...they had a signed contract and AKC told stud owner to sign or be suspended..she signed. |
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i cannot get passed the part where this breeder (op) did not know what ytca is. how could a yorkie breeder not know????? |
i also wanted to ask this of the op.....who's puppies are these? yours or elvis yorkies? what is your association with elvis? |
one other question.... you have ytca on your website and you didn't know what it is? this was copied from your site Do Teacup Yorkshire Terriers Exist? This is where the Yorkshire Terrier Club of America and many show breeders have been very deceptive in an attempt to confuse the general public. If one is referring to a Teacup Yorkshire Terrier as a dog breed the answer is NO, TEACUP YORKSHIRE TERRIERS DO NOT EXIST. The answer is YES, TEACUP YORKSHIRE TERRIERS DO EXIST if one is referring to a Teacup Yorkshire Terrier as an extra small Yorkshire Terrier where teacup or extra small are meant as adjectives describing the noun Yorkshire Terrier. Just as AKC Yorkshire Terriers, Female Yorkshire Terriers, Champion Yorkshire Terriers, Chocolate Yorkshire Terriers, Blue and Gold Yorkshire Terriers, and Etc. exist. This is a section of an article on the YTCA website: |
I believe that sometimes she has Elvis Yorkshires list her pups for sale on their site...? |
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Reputable breeders do not sell their tinies or if they do, they don't raise the price because they are small....but, place them in an approved home that is familiar with the care of these wee ones.....why would we sell heartache...... |
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You might attempt to enter the UKC ring.....it's my understanding that there is no politics and much easier to Champion a dog there |
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LOL guess not Rose...I was looking for the words like "politics, influence" but gosh I couldnt find them anywhere... :eek: the OP asking the who, what, when and where about the YTCA, alas, was just a ploy, she obviously knew, I bet it was a test for all of us to see if we are paying attention:eek: :) |
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Now in all fairness here's the whole page... http://www.nataliesyorkies.com/image...out/spacer.gifhttp://www.nataliesyorkies.com/image...out/spacer.gifhttp://www.nataliesyorkies.com/image...rose_curve.gifhttp://www.nataliesyorkies.com/image...e_gradient.gifhttp://www.nataliesyorkies.com/image...out/spacer.gifHome | My Sires | My Dams | Warranty Agreement | Hypoglycemia Info | Puppy Feeding Info | Past Puppies | Teacup Yorkie's Do they exist? | Male Vs Female | Wilma's Dress Shop http://www.nataliesyorkies.com/image...out/spacer.gifTeacup Yorkie's Do they exist? http://www.nataliesyorkies.com/image...out/spacer.gifhttp://www.nataliesyorkies.com/image...out/spacer.gif Teacup Yorkies or Teacup Yorkshire Terriers Do They Exist? This is a question that keeps coming up because of a lot of deceptive information distributed by the Yorkshire Terrier Club of America and many Show Breeders. Do Teacup Yorkies Exist? The answer to this question is technically NO. The reason being that Yorkie is a slang term for Yorkshire Terrier and AKC only recognizes the Yorkshire Terrier. There is no Yorkie Breed. Now if you accept that Yorkie can be used interchangeably with Yorkshire Terrier then you need to read further. Do Teacup Yorkshire Terriers Exist? This is where the Yorkshire Terrier Club of America and many show breeders have been very deceptive in an attempt to confuse the general public. If one is referring to a Teacup Yorkshire Terrier as a dog breed the answer is NO, TEACUP YORKSHIRE TERRIERS DO NOT EXIST. The answer is YES, TEACUP YORKSHIRE TERRIERS DO EXIST if one is referring to a Teacup Yorkshire Terrier as an extra small Yorkshire Terrier where teacup or extra small are meant as adjectives describing the noun Yorkshire Terrier. Just as AKC Yorkshire Terriers, Female Yorkshire Terriers, Champion Yorkshire Terriers, Chocolate Yorkshire Terriers, Blue and Gold Yorkshire Terriers, and Etc. exist. This is a section of an article on the YTCA website: "An Important Message About "Teacup" Yorkies" "If you are interested in purchasing a tiny Yorkie, sometimes called a Teacup, Micro Mini, Teenie, or any other name that means "extra small", there are several things you should consider. The YTCA's Code of Ethics precludes the use of the words "teacup", "tiny specialists", doll faced, or similar terminology by its members, and for good reason."Three things are interesting from this section: 1. They broke their own code of ethics in the first sentence by using "tiny Yorkie". 2. They are only concerned about adjectives that mean extra small but yet they threw in the word doll face, which has nothing to do with size. I will go into detail about YTCA's code of Ethics in the article, The How and Why's of the Deceptive Practices of YTCA and many Show Breeders. 3. They are acknowledging that the people using the terms Teacup, Micro Mini, Teenie, and etc. are using the terms as adjectives modifying the noun Yorkie and are not tying to imply a new Yorkshire Terrier Breed as many show breeders profess. Personally, I don't know of a single breeder that ever thought that a Teacup Yorkie was another breed of Yorkshire Terriers and I know that whenever I'm talking to someone and I sense that they think that a Teacup Yorkie is a different breed than the Yorkshire Terrier I try to educate them on the facts. For the publics sake, the ethical and professional way to handle any misunderstandings about the term Teacup Yorkshire Terrier could have been as simple as stating: TEACUP YORKSHIRE TERRIER, MINIATURE YORKSHIRE TERRIER, AND ETC. REFERS TO A SMALLER THAN USUAL YORKSHIRE TERRIER AND IS NOT A NEW YORKSHIRE TERRIER BREED. http://www.nataliesyorkies.com/image...out/spacer.gifhttp://www.nataliesyorkies.com/image...out/spacer.gif |
Oops... sorry I didn't realize it would post like that. :eek: I would like to ask the OP one question though. Could you please tell me how you were able to get one of CH This Time Major League at Dundry's pups? I know this breeder and can't imagine her allowing anyone to use one of her dogs to breed for NON-standard Yorkshire Terrriers! I'd really like to know. And the way you put down show breeders I'm curious as to why you'd want so many of their dogs in your pedigree? Just wondering... :rolleyes: |
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Thats interesting Deana Prestigeous |
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PM me and I'll tell you how it happened. I have it from our breeder Mary |
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All pictures and content of this website are property of Natalie's Wee Little Yorkie's and may not be copied under any circumstances. She also does not hate show breeders, she just had a really bad experience and choosen to stay out of it right now. |
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Unbelivable I would just like to ask how many of you actually know Natalie of Natalies Wee little Yorkies? I am astounded to read some of the comments about a person who many of you would be very blessed to actually know. I would like to tell you a little about her. Natalie sold me my first two Yorkies, and I can tell you she is one of the best breeders I have ever met. First of all she talks to you and makes sure you are right for this breed, whether you want a xtra small dog or not, before she sells you a pup. I have bought all my breeders from her and have been to her house several times to pick up my pups. There are no cages or kennels or crates for that matter to be found in her home. When she answered the front door for me she was escorted by what seemed to be a large choir of yorkies. Her Home is spotless and smells fresh as a daisy, you would never know she had a dog if you didnt see them all around you. She is this larger than life tiny woman who makes you dizzy with all she does while she is trying to visit with you. She knows every dog by name and will be happy to have them show you all of their talents. She literally lives for her dogs and everything she does is either about them or for them. When my first female was starting to whelp, in the middle of the night I called her for advise and she stayed on the phone helping me until the last pup was born and suckling. Natalie has the biggest heart and would never put down a soul she didnt know, even if she knew they were in the wrong. If any of you ever want to know anything about her just email me, I will give you the truth about it. I could go on and on about this spunky little lady but I need to take care of my own yorkies now...thanks for listening. |
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I have several of her dogs myself and not one of them has ever and I mean ever been sick! It absolutely appauls me to see how many people have come on here and attacked her without knowing a thing about her. |
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I'm still waiting for an answer from the OP. |
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Do Teacup Yorkshire Terriers Exist? This is where the Yorkshire Terrier Club of America and many show breeders have been very deceptive in an attempt to confuse the general public. It doesn't sound like she likes them too much here Debbie. At least that's the impression I got. Also, the subject here is that she acted like she didn't know what YTCA meant... when obviously she does. :confused: I don't doubt that she loves her dogs and that she takes good care of them. That was never an issue. |
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She copied that from a friends website and read it wrong, so my appologies cause I also had rebuilt her website to have that link and have since re-read it and removed it from her website. She knows what it means, but she would have to be the one who tells us what she was trying to ask when she posted that. I know she has a terrible experience with a handler who royally screwed her over and isn't fond of the whole situation, but has many show dogs herself. Heck she even has shown some of them herself. |
I do not know Natalie but I looked at her website and I think her puppies are adorable. That being said, I think her goal is to breed and sell pricey tiny puppies which is against the YTCA ethics code. http://www.ytca.org/ethics.html People come to YT for advise when they are doing research so it is up to us to warn about this practice. Another concern I have is that most of her posts regard selling puppies or discussing the pups she is selling. It makes one wonder if her purpose in being here is to sell her puppies, period. And last, if she has been breeding for all of those years, she knows what YTCA is and the question was posted as bait to cause controversy which I think is against YT rules? |
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Even if you are only using the word "teacup" as an adjective, why do it? We all know that most people are very uneducated when it comes to dog breeds and many people truly believe there is a teacup yorkshire terrier...many yorkie buyers buy these puppies without ever researching the breed. A lot of yorkie buyers think there is are standard yorkshire terriers, mini yorkshire terriers, toy yorkshire terriers, teacup yorkshire terriers,etc...knowing this, how can you continue to use adjectives like those to describe the dogs, knowing that you are continueing to confuse the public and perpetuate the "teacup" myth? A Yorkshire Terrier is a toy breed. It's one thing to use the adjectives "champion", "black and gold", etc...as they are describing something factual...champion is a title acheived; black and gold is an accurate description of color. "Teacup" or "Teapot" or any other word like that is term that has no meaning...there is no real standard for a "teacup" yorkie...technically someone could have a 15lb yorkie and call it a "teacup" if they wanted to because there is no standard that says a "teacup" yorkie has to be a certain size...is it 1lbs, 2lbs and under, 3lbs and under, 4lbs or under...different "teacup" breeders give you a different definition on what a "teacup" is..and techinally no one would be lying as there is no standard that defines what a "teacup" would be. The only thing using an adjective like "teacup" does is continue to confuse the public |
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