Thank you Ann.

Well said. I hope you have nothing but happiness with your babies. Just keep your chin up and enjoy Mia.

:thumbup::thumbup: This was what I was trying so awkwardly to say in my post this morning. As usual Ann, you've said it perfectly! :)

Elaine, I hope you never feel hesitant to post here. You've always been so nice and supportive, and I look forward to your posts about you and your babies!

I know she has Marshall. I know all about Marshall. He was being bred to anyone with the stud fee out in Texas long before Susie bought him. I even talked to Susie about the kind of pups he was throwing that I knew about before she got him. I personally know of three girls that were sold to a home in Kentucky on open registration three to almost four years ago. not hearsay. I have been in the show ring with them. A lady named Betsy, show person, in Texas was selling them.

:confused: Are you both saying that Susan Morgan owns this Marshall Dillon? I'm sorry, to sound stupid and I guess no one would think I'm college educated but this is all very very confusing to me. I can't follow anything that is being linked or even what any of it means. None of it has anything to do with my pup or me (at least that I'm aware of) but for my own curiosity I'd like to understand just how deep this all goes. :(

I think I may be understanding why so many wanted to keep this thread opened. Just PLEASE be kind to people that have no involvement or any further involvement in this. I don't think anyone wants innocent parties hurt. :thumbup:

No it is two different by the name of Susie that Sugar's Mom is talking about is the owner of Tiny Terriers and is also Crestwing. Susan Morgan is Colorsilk as you know. Marshall Dillion who is now in the care of Tiny Terriers is being whored out to the entire yorkie world. His situation is being discussed on another thread in the Breeder Forum. Very sad since he is a very beautiful dog and deserves so much better. :(

Right. Gotcha. Thank you for clarifying. :thumbup: I'm trying to figure out why it was put on this thread (And I don't mean to sound stupid or defensive) Just asking is it linked or is Susan Morgan somehow linked into to this Marshall Dillon too (or) is it just something that got off topic here? Again, not trying to be defensive, I truly am trying to understand whether or not there is a link or there isn't a link. I easily confuse.

I think it's sad for any dog to be bred over and over and over, no matter what the lines. All animals deserve better, even not so beautiful. :)

I think it is sad that people are so quick to judge before they know the entire story.

There is way more to this story than y'all Know.

The video shows how sick the puppy is after being in the buyers home for 10 days. It does not show the puppy runnng around playing with the other dogs prior to getting sick.

Think before you judge.

I'm not saying the seller did everything right, but neither did the buyer.

You've got to be kidding. What the buyer did wrong? Really! :mad: I wish I could answer but then again it's not really worth the effort.

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Oh, please, I have been called so many wonderful names....dog thief for one :rolleyes:...someone saying something like that does not make it so. I really do not lose sleep over online stuff...life is too short for that. My life is busy and full....I don't think this is anything typed on an online forum is anything worth getting upset over. I honestly have seen nothing that berates you in any way anyway, Elaine. Maybe things you don't like hearing, but certainly nothing to get so upset over imo. I personally think this thread speaks volumes about the breeder.

No, it really is not! Don't even bother....the majority of people here know the scoop.

I'm sensative. ;)

Giving a dog, that young, all those shots at one time, let alone one that small. This is not your first tiny. It is possible, that, but for the shots, the puppy would have been fine. But we will never know that. But I think it is wrong to blame it all on the breeder.

Stress alone, is enough to exacerbate the kennel cough. Then to add the shots on top of it.

I also think it is wrong to repeatedly drag this breeders name through the mud.

I believe in "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone".

All of you perfect flawless people need to let this go, and move on.

I did let it go. It was this drdumblittle that started this thread and lied in her posting, to protect her friend. If you read I also asked to have this thread closed as it was a resolved matter, just as I had asked to have the original thread closed due to the same. The matter had been resolved.

I haven't said a word about any of them. In fact I came on here and said that a full refund was given and there was no reason to bring this all up again. I think it's the person and her associates that are not letting it go. And, for the record Susan Morgan was not the breeder. The original breeder (Glenda) is the one that issued me a full refund and as I said already she and I have resolved this matter. Neither Glenda nor I wanted this started again.

This is all I'm going to say on the matter.

Ok let's get facts straight, even though this is not about Reviewing Susan Mitchell / Tiny Terriers. I am the one in KY that has the 3 Marshall daughters and yes I have showed them. I bought them from Betsy on a stringent “Show Contract”. In regards to these girls being sold to me on Open Registration, it’s common knowledge that if you buy a dog on a Show Contract the dog is sold on Open Registration.




Gogo was a UKC Champion, Hanna broke her leg and as wonderful as she was missed the window of opportunity when she needed to be socialized and has now been placed as a spoiled pet to a wonderful man.
I am close to Betsy to this day and in communication with her regularly so I’ll further set the record straight; as far as I know Betsy and Masrshall’s previous owner never bred him outside their own kennel. Marshall was not for public stud.



Susan Morgan is not Crestwing. Marshall Dillon is owned by Tiny Terriers Susan Mitchell.

That's what I said :confused:

Here is a link to Tiny Terrier/Susan Mitchell. He's right there on her front page. Her SN on YT is Crestwing

TINY TERRIERS

Susan Morgan is Colorsilk/Topknotch Yorkies and is who sold Mia and who is being discusses in this thread.

The only reason he was even brought up in this thread was the connection that was made here:

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/3259398-post158.html

Not sure why I have to repeat this for the third time. But I do believe I made myself very clear at this point.

Did not mean to step on your toes
just confriming what you were saying .

I think you brought up Crestwing first in post number 34 you said:

From what I have put together Crestwing is possibly also Susan You were talking about the Susan Elaine has had trouble with. I simply was saying no, Crestwing is a different person. That is all I was responding to. I am done.

[QUOTE=megansmomma;3420482]So if I have put some of these pieces together properly it looks like Susan and Glenda are hooked up with the Crestwing who now has CH Rosemark Marshall Dillon. They are using his all over the US to produce puppies. From what I have put together Crestwing is possibly also Susan :confused: This is all a HUGE mess of a story and has more twists and turns than a soap opera! From what I can put together Glenda also breeds and sells other breeds of dogs. Susan is traveling to Brazil to pick up puppies to sell and also is selling puppies or is affiliated with some shadiness in PA where all of the mills are located. I also found via googling that she is being sued for not paying for puppies to the tune of $15,000 :eek: Twisted, twisted, twisted!

If the Dr boolittle aka Julie is actually the vet she claims to be she must have a huge stake in all of this too. She only had 5 previous posts and she gives rave reviews to Susan who she knows is a puppy broker. :eek: Just to give you a big piece of your puzzle Susan Mitchell is not Susan Morgan and Marshall is not a whore. Marshall only breeds my dogs not the entire world. We would really appreciate it if you would leave us out of your soap operas. Thank you, Crestwing and Marshall

My name is Shannon Morgan and I am Susan Morgan's daughter. My mother has no intention of "defending" herself on YT. She does go in and has been following the ridiculous threads although most of the time she gets emails from people copying and sending her the info. My mother was asked by Glenda not to answer Elaine's original emails since the puppy was sold by Glenda to Elaine. She asked my mother not to have communication with Elaine and she did not until the confidentiality agreement was signed by Elaine. My original thoughts were that at the appropriate time I would post on YT and answer some questions but after seeing my friend Julie's post (yes she is a real vet), I realize that what Julie had to say was mild compared to what I have to say and I would never get a chance to say what I want to because my thread would also be shut down. Only certain people are allowed to berate. lie, and exaggerate but someone that comes on here, states she is a vet but does not leave a copy of her license for verification is kicked off? Sounds ludicrous to me. I copied this entire thread and have inserted my answers to many of the postings. If anyone is interested in viewing it, simply email me and I will send you a copy of it. That is the only way I can be heard since simply telling the truth or giving your honest opinion seems to be frowned upon in this venue. I certainly am not pointing my finger at all YT members, just the few that seem bent on stirring things up. My mother also has written a very long letter that she sends out to the people that have written her asking "what the heck is going on". She has sent it to a few people - some from YT also with her version of the real story. Some people have written to her and inquired rather than joining the frenzy that has gone on in YT. Below is my email address and I am happy to send anyone that inquires a copy of this entire thread with my comments interspersed. But like all emails, it is my property and it is not to be re posted on YT. If I wanted to post it here, I would do it myself. Thank you for listening.
Respectfully,

Shannon Morgan
shannonceemorgan@aol.com

How convenient, is all I can say. Yes, let's wait until the confidentiiality agreement is signed and then strike then Elaine can't say a word. Well, the confidentiality agreement does not prevent me from saying that your mother when she finally did decide to open her mouth, not only waited until I was unable to respond, but also threatened family. I agreed to your mom's demands to prevent my family from being involved and hurt. Both of you leave me and my family alone and stop continually dragging this on and on. You can tell your vet Dr.Dumblittle the same.

If this does not stop I will be at the prosecutor's office with your mother's emails and file charges and since you mentioned Glenda asking your mom not to talk to me until after the confidentiality agreement was signed I'll have my attorney look at whether or not this agreement was proposed in good faith or whether it was just put in play so I can be attacked and not be able to defend myself and I will see what recourses I have with all of you, including your vet who has lied.

I let this all go and lived up to my end of the deal, even trying to have this thread closed to prevent any problems or unnecessary people from being hurt. That shows good will and it shows my intent to keep my end of the bargain.

I suggest you all do the same or we can go legally further with this.

Another word on here from you or your associates you'll hear from me legally.

Why would a breeder insist on a confidentiality agreement over a PUPPY? I've never heard of that before. When I hear someone has a confidentiality agreement, I tend to think someone has something to hide - something they don't want publicly known. Are there other reasons to insist on one? :confused:

Better yet...why would a Breeder threaten to even "hurt" the family of the Buyer...that is bizarre to say the least!

Elaine...just to threaten my family would be the last straw for me and I'd have made this a legal matter right then!

If I'm not mistaken, confidentiality agreements keep BOTH parties from talking or authorizing some one to talk for them. At this point, if a threat has been made, I would definitely be filing charges.

As for why the poster in question has been suspended, it has more to do with violating YT rules about reopening closed posts and the language she used while it was being done. The post was deleted. Let's just say the posting wasn't exactly professional.

It would be interesting to hear if there are any other puppies purchased from these people and how they are doing, if they are healthy or is they there purchased sick like Mia. We all know that brokers are not a very wise choice when it comes to making a puppy purchase but some find this out after the fact.

:thumbup: I think that may be a possibility and won't they all be surprised. Small world ya know ;)

Why do you think she has so much practice with confidentiality agreements? Hah.

:confused: I saw I was quoted, but I'm not understanding you question. My response above wasn't to do with an agreement. I was responding to Megansmom who said she'd be interested to see if any one else with a sick pup comes forward. ;)

Sorry I was being sarcastic and meant that they wouldn't come forward because she probably pulled a confidentiality agreement with them too to stay quiet. It was definitely not meant to be mean to you, I was instead digging at her for being a horrible breeder.