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Breeze 03-26-2010 02:27 PM
I'm really sick and tired of the pot stirrers here who love to report anything back to whomever (bad breeder, puppymill......) is posted negativity about in our close YT community. I bet they don't have the courage say who they are. They just sit back and watch the show, shame on them!!!! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:


Whose side are you on anyways?, to me they are the biggest problem here :(

Nancy1999 03-26-2010 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985 (Post 3056194)
I saw that earlier and had the same thought about the look of the yorkies. I know my boy is completely not-representative of the standard, so I thought I had no right to criticize. Their face seems lacking in the hair department. They were cute, but not what I expected to see in quality breeding stock.
Pet dogs don't have to look like great representatives of the breed, but breeding dogs should be great representatives; a pet owner can see "inner beauty." Even when two nearly perfect specimens are bred together you don't get perfection, but you have enough traits, that at least the offspring look like a yorkie. When you are using poor representatives of the breed, you are breeding in traits that will go on and on and these types of breeders sell with open registration; meaning that whoever buys a dog, can breed them too. So as time goes on, the majority of yorkies will not even look like a yorkie, they may be AKC purebred, but they won't have any of the features that a yorkie should have. That's why it's important to support breeders who breed to standard; we are trying to preserve the look of Yorkshire terrier for years to come.

By the way Kaji-kun has a gorgeous face!

BonBon 03-26-2010 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Breeze (Post 3056218)
I'm really sick and tired of the pot stirrers here who love to report anything back to whomever (bad breeder, puppymill......) is posted negativity about in our close YT community. I bet they don't have the courage say who they are. They just sit back and watch the show, shame on them!!!! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:


Whose side are you on anyways?, to me they are the biggest problem here :(
Good point. I hadn't stopped to consider how they even knew she'd posted about them.

Breeze 03-26-2010 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bonbon (Post 3056272)
Good point. I hadn't stopped to consider how they even knew she'd posted about them.
It happens all the time, makes me wonder what kind of people they are. Never have the guts to come forward either, hmmmm.... :confused:

orlnurse 03-26-2010 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3056166)
I know I'm going to get a lot of flack for this, but those dogs were not good representatives of the breed. I doubt if any of them should have been bred. It seems like the major criteria for picking a breeder was size, with many of the males listed as three pounds and under. Several things that bothered me were all the proclamations of the Christianity, and waving the flag. I guess atheists and commies need not apply. I think this is used in an attempt to seem reputable, instead of being reputable. I do not like it when breeders have a payment method on their website, it means that they aren't placing dogs, they are selling them to anyone who comes along with the money. I did not notice a health guarantee, however I did notice that the "Vet. Health Certificate is $25.00." They don't even do a health check on their puppies unless you pay extra? It's sad that many so called rescues work with places like this, and aren't really rescues, but are really puppy brokers.
I agree...I thought the same thing about the breed standard when I looked at the page. Don't get me wrong..I love Lily and of course I think she's the cutest thing! :)

DvlshAngel985 03-26-2010 06:54 PM
Thank you for the compliment Nancy! I know he's a super cutey patootie but I see him with "mother's eyes." :D

Nancy1999 03-26-2010 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985 (Post 3056661)
Thank you for the compliment Nancy! I know he's a super cutey patootie but I see him with "mother's eyes." :D
I have a weakness for floppy ears, good thing I'm not a breeder, I would be trying to change the standard! :D

Ladymom 03-26-2010 07:19 PM
Ron and Peggy Beauford, TLC Kennels, are on the USDA "puppymill" list:

http://www.prisonersofgreed.org/ListA2006.pdf

orlnurse 03-27-2010 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Ladymom (Post 3056692)
Ron and Peggy Beauford, TLC Kennels, are on the USDA "puppymill" list:

http://www.prisonersofgreed.org/ListA2006.pdf

Any idea how this list was made? How does one end up on this list?

orlnurse 03-27-2010 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Breeze (Post 3056218)
I'm really sick and tired of the pot stirrers here who love to report anything back to whomever (bad breeder, puppymill......) is posted negativity about in our close YT community. I bet they don't have the courage say who they are. They just sit back and watch the show, shame on them!!!! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:


Whose side are you on anyways?, to me they are the biggest problem here :(
:thumbup:

Ladymom 03-27-2010 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by orlnurse (Post 3056874)
Any idea how this list was made? How does one end up on this list?
High volume commercial kennels who wholesale puppies to brokers and pet shops are required to be licensed by the USDA. Because puppies are produced in a factory-like setting, they have been dubbed "puppymills".

You can read more about the USDA here:

Puppymills - commercial dog kennels and the USDA

jackson25 03-27-2010 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Breeze (Post 3056218)
I'm really sick and tired of the pot stirrers here who love to report anything back to whomever (bad breeder, puppymill......) is posted negativity about in our close YT community. I bet they don't have the courage say who they are. They just sit back and watch the show, shame on them!!!!


Whose side are you on anyways?, to me they are the biggest problem here :(
:thumbup: Great point! Who would do such a thing, makes me sick!:mad:

orlnurse 03-27-2010 07:56 AM
thank you for that link...I'll check it out now. What exactly does that list mean though?..does it mean they've been investigated?

jencar98 03-27-2010 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by orlnurse (Post 3056874)
Any idea how this list was made? How does one end up on this list?
This is a list of licensed (by USDA) commercial dog breeders. I'm assuming the list is provided by the USDA and is public information. No, this list does not mean the breeder is being investigated or had violations (there is another list for violations).

jrsygal37 03-27-2010 10:19 AM
Hi. I did not read through all the post, just a few. I just wanted to say that there are brokers that pose as rescue. Not saying this is the case, but you mentioned that she came from an auction and you got her through rescue. Myself and another exposed one rescue right here in NJ that was buying pups from auctions then listing them on petfinder.com as rescues. This was not a legitimate rescue. It was a broker who was making a lot of money. Just because a place is listed as a rescue does not mean they are legite. Many people do not realize this. You need to be savvy and check out the rescue and make sure that they are infact legitimate. A big red flag with a broker posing as a rescue is when they have many pups available for adoption and either none or not many adults. Elaine


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