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Sullivan Farms - Havana, Kansas - Any experiences? I'm searching for a good breeder. The Sullivans are listed on the USDA website as breeders (48-A-1038). Does anyone know if this is a puppy mill? Has anyone purchased a puppy from them? |
I would look at the YTCA breeder list to find a reputable breeder. USDA breeders are not always good breeders, could be a mill or back yard breeder. |
Halpain's Successor Is Sullivan Farms connected with Robert & Starmye Halpain and Ultimatepuppies? One of Sullivan's pedigree dogs is named Halpain's Successor. |
I have never had any experiences with them either. I hope you find a good breeder.:aimeeyork:aimeeyork:aimeeyork:aimeeyork |
Oh, man, I'm from KS and you need to be very, very careful. We are one of the puppy mill capitals. Anything with the name 'Farm' in it would make me run the other way. In KS the word 'kennel' also has very negative connotations. Ask Nancy1999 to do some research for you. She just did some research for someone who bought a puppy at a pet store and it turned out to be from a mill here in KS. Please be so careful getting any puppy from KS. ~Joanne~ |
I'm having a difficult time finding their web page but I did find an add in their local paper where they raise Yorkies, Maltese, and Morkies. IMO not a good breeder if they are breeding mixed breeds. I tried the web site they listed in the add but it did come up. |
Found it: Sullivan Farms and Kennel They raise eight different breeds: Yorkies, Maltese, Morkies, Wheaton Terriers, Poodles, Shih Tzus, and Brussels Griffons I'm not sure what you would call them.....BYBs or a miller. Couldn't find any information on their health guarantee. Anything less than a year would not be acceptable IMO. |
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Beware of anybody that is USDA licensed. Just because they have the word Farm in their kennel name doesn't really mean anything. I know very reputible breeders that have it in their kennel name or on their dogs. For instance, Chuck and I have C&S Farms. Because we own a farm. My dogs are C&S Sweet... whatever their name is. When someone lives on a farm it is common to use the farm name. We're proud of it! (and no, it doesn't mean our dogs are livestock either) |
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I apologize. I shouldn't have been so general. Coming from KS I would have to actually see the 'farm' or 'kennel' to assure myself that it was okay. I tend to be very leery of puppies raised here in KS. We had a mill just a few miles from us and another byb about 8 miles from us who raise many different breeds of dogs although their kennels tend to be clean and well taken care of. This kennel sells to pet stores. The mill was horrible but it has just been shut down after several years of being in court. We have laws that have way too many loopholes in them. They even let their horses die. Their dogs ate the corpses of other dogs because they were so hungry. The filth was horrible beyond words. And would you believe that they showed some of their dogs that they deemed good enough. They claimed to raise show dogs. Being so close to something like this has even made me leery of people when they say they raise show dogs. May all these tortured doggies rest in peace. ~Joanne~ |
I completely understand! MO definitely has its share of puppymills too. They are everywhere. Those poor dogs. I can't imagine why anybody would think it's even remotely ok to have them live like that. |
If they are USDA Licensed there is a very high percentage that they are a puppymill. USDA Licensed breeders sell to pet stores etc. Most breed in high numbers making it lucrative for them. I'll try to research for you and see what I can come up with. For now I would stay clear. Elaine |
I went to their website and saw some redflags. For one no pictures of parents and for two the pups for sale look like all stage pictures rather then pictures of them in their home environment. Lastly they have quite a few breeds and mixed breeds as well. All of this and the fact they are USDA Licensed makes me believe that there is a high possibility that they are at the least a small puppymill operation. Unless I could go there and personally view the parents and where and how they are living I would stay clear. Elaine |
They are commerical breeders and that is exactly where pet stores get their supply of puppies. Big huge :thumbdown no way would I consider purchasing any puppy from a USDA breeder. |
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I've come to the same conclusion. Another red flag I noticed was that on the page with pics of the puppies there is a clever disclaimer (because puppies "wiggle" when you try to take their pic) that the pics might not be the actual puppies that are available. |
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