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Buyers beware / "reville regestered" dogs/ have bad genetic grade #4 patelas i've had an heart breaking terrible experience buying a yorkshire terrier pup from pat coburn of "reville registered" in kentucky. She does not back any of her health guarentee's as posted.i paid 2,250.00 for a champion sired male pup of top show quility.this pup arrived skin and bones. I had 3 different vets examine the pup. They felt the pup was from a puppy mill.i was horrified! They all adressed the fact that the pup had genetically grade #4 patelas. The worse possible joints to have. He will need surgery to have both back knee's replaced. One vet which was a board certified surgeon on knee's. Told me to return this pup for this is not acceptable in any breeds standard of ethics. It would cost over 2 thousand dollars to replace his knee's.i sent this information to the breeder as requested. She will not answer her phone now or return my emails to address these problems.she said all yorkie's have this.....she totally misrepresented herslf to me...... Pat coburn has 21 dogs and puppys listed on puppy find.... A total of 30 thousand dollars adding up all the dogs listed.....buying a puppy from pat has turned into a nightmere for our family! She is a kentucky puppy mill of dogs of genetic problems judging from the pup i recieved.....ron from naples, fl |
You need to post this under breeders review |
So sorry for you...Make sure you post in breeder talk.. |
I bought a champion sired male from her also. The dog that I purchased was a grown male and he died of heartworms about 3 months after I purchased him. When I contacted her about it she only said " I don't have any dogs with heartworms here, because I have walnut trees around my kennel and I worm with Panacure 2 times a year." Now anyone that knows anything about worms especially heartworms -- would know how this statement sounded to me and to my Vet. You are right---she will not warranty any of her dogs. It is a "Buyer Beware" situation. I have heard from multiple people about her ethics. |
welcome to YT...sorry that it had to be under such a bad situation...and sorry that you are having to go thru this. |
MY EXPERIENCE WITH PATSY I purchased a female for show out of her champion male around 2 years ago and at 8 months she had LP 4 in both back leg's I TOOK KIKI TO 2 DIFFERENT VETS with both confirming the diagnosis this is out of the same ch male that Ron bought his boy from I still have my vet records and a copy of the reg to prove I had bought this girl and the contract Patsy did purchase the girl back but we only live about 45 minutes apart but still denied my vet reports and told me both vets were wrong Patsy also told me she had never ever had LP in her lines As of today I was sent an email from Ron the op where she has called me deceitful and basically trash because I told him I would help him if I could and she is very unhappy with me which pushed me into writing this She told Ron she never had LP in her lines and I knew better maybe I should have stayed out of it but this young man was done very wrong and paid way to much for an unhealthy dog of 8 months and all he wanted was for her to make things right and if she had I would have never ever posted this or gotten involved I could go even deeper into detail but I choose to just keep to the subject at hand I am in no way being deceitful and I am offended by this accusation of her's I am the one who can prove my story At one time I thought very highly of Patsy and her breeding program and her dogs I once had a very wise show lady tell me who knows who she is to stay away from this breeder that good things were not said about her and I should have listened but everything she ever told me has stuck and I try to do much better even though I feel I still have a lot to learn I am at least learning the right way to do things and to be responsible for what my lines are and what I produce |
selling sick dogs on puppy find this is terrible, and breeders like her give breeders a bad name.. did the OP buy this dog without visiting the kennel or doing research first? that is a lot of money for a dog... was it shipped? buyer beware for sure of this nasty lieing breeder.. those poor doggies in her care .. a true greeder at reville regestered...someone please stop her from breeding and selling sick dogs please:thumbdown |
To those who have had this experience with this breeder, I feel you should bring a small claims action to Court. There is no way, anyone should get away with this. If she had been willing to try to make things right or even acknowledged that the vets were right, then I would not advocate this. There is no way to stop a person like this unless we as pet lovers AND consumers take steps to put a stop to this. Keep all documentation and vet reports, and file a small claims action. Even if you do not win, if this woman has to jump through hoops, then she is going to think twice about continuing this type of breeding/selling. Sounds like she is in it for the money and not for the love and care of the breed. I work in the Courts here in Calif, and I believe there is a good chance you would win an action and maybe at least recover your outlay of money. |
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and many conversations with the breeder but that still does not make what she has done ethical and she is a show kennel and he thought because he was buying from a show exhibitor he was safe well wrong i just wish i had known maybe i could have prevented his heatache i just can't get over the fact that she sold him a 2.2 pound eight month old dog for show!! much less the health problems this dog has other than lp |
I got ripped off too Well i bought a maltese from patsy. He was supposed too be tiny. He weighs all most 7lbs and has hair like a poodle. She had told me she would give me another puppy but all ways came up with an excuse. Even tried to send her more money on a more expensive one so at least i could have one i could use. I care for the maltese boy but his hair is so kinky and wirey. When i got him she really came on as a nice person and i believed every thing she told me. She knew he had bad hair but shipped him anyway telling me if he didn't straighten out or produce pretty pups she would replace him. Well he has done neither. After many months of trying to get her to work with me i put a bad review of her on puppyfind. She then got an attorney to send me a letter with a threat of a law suit for slander if i said anything else bad about her. She got my 1500.00 plus 250.00 shipping and now she wants more of my money. So all you that give bad reviews on her better beware you may be next. There is nothing nice about this lady. I see she just keeps taking peoples money |
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even a replacement dog would not be good for breeding.. jmo |
Well yes you are right. I now don't want any of her lines. I tried to get her to send my money back. I tried everything with her. She knows how to get around a person. Just kept promiseing me but never done what she said she would do. I wonder if akc would help. |
Well in two minutes I can get an attorney letter. If you know an attorney or even pay one a minimum amount, he will send such a letter. It would be better if you went to an attorney for a consult, but better yet, file your own suit. In each county there is free legal advice and help. You can file and bring her arse to Court. I'm with the other person. Don't give her any more of your money. She is not reputable and you will not get a good pup most likely. How sad there are such people ! |
WELL I HAVE VET RECORDS to prove what has happened patsy uses her attorney alot to threathen people i know of another she sent a letter to like i said i use to respect her alot but after reading about how many people have been taken by her it is sad and i hope she changes things but i do not see that happening and a maltese with curly wire hair it would make me wonder if there was not an oops breeding have you had him dna'd to make sure he has the right parents because i know her daughter sells mixed breeds |
ladies Ron just asked me to post this for him he is having trouble getting around yt:( this was just put on her website when ron bought this little boy there was no warranty and he asked if everyone would take a look at the new one and what they think about it Reveille Registered - Home of Champions! |
Buyers beware / reville regestered / a buyers nightmere Thanks rose for posting reville regestered "new health guarentee" .. It was just added to her website..... All of us who bought a pup or dog from pat before this....never had one to review on her website.....none existed before to read....... Rose never recieved one as well.....on the dog she purchased from pat as a show dog......which she raised as one..... Before she was shocked to find out her "show dog" had grade 4 patelas of the same sire of the dog i have / this was 2 years ago.....the bad breeding continues into the dog i bought. 2 years later of more of the same breeding......there were two other litters of pups from the same sire available from the 3rd litter of the one i bought from...... Who the sire is " "ch girlwatcher" where are the ethics here ! Anyone who has pats old health guarentee......please let us know.... Obviously this new health contract just protects her to her future victoms.....by my complaints i've had against her . I still have nothing settled with this woman.... My 2 vets terrible diognosis on this pup stands...and she refuses to acknowledge them.....her vet claims.... Its no big deal...all small dogs have bad patelas......with this kind of mentality ...one has to question that mentality shared by patsie and her vet......and patsie is in in the akc dog shows and others finishing her yorkies !!!! Please understand the dog i have has grade 4 patelas which i paid for a show quility pup at $2.25o.oo....... This pup at 8 months ...was sold to me at 3.4 lbs...... He arrived at 2.4lbs......he is beyond fragile and terribly thin......i have him up to 2.7lbs after 9 weeks....... Pat now put her add back on puppyfind and is trying to sell the sister of the pup i have " gracie" 10 months old.........it looks identical to the dog i bought.....so in looks.. You can see how i could have been decieved......for the dog is pretty......but fluffed up like mine was..... Not showing how frail and thin they are.....and having no idea about the grade 4 patelas..... I have no idea if this female pup has the same grade 4 patelas my pup has...... Instead of the 20 dogs she had listed before i drew attention to iton puppyfind.....a total of 30 thousand dollars of dogs she had posted for sale on puppyfind....... She pulled back on the site with two for sale now.......obviously she was ashamed ..... Please check your yorkies patelas if bought from pat and the dogs breeding of girlwatcher or others........this has to be acknowledged and stopped.........my family will continue to fight for justice with the nightmere of buying a dog from pat coburn ..............thanks, ron |
Bad reviews / REVILLE REGESTERED With All the bad reviews written by unhappy clients buying Patsie's pups or dogs from "Reville Regestered" on PuppyFind......Pat has pulled off her add again......Now she cant keep up with the bad reviews or is unable to pull off the bad ones.....For complaints were filed against her in doing so.... I'm sure she will try to pull up her add again to be posted when she feels she can controll her reviews........to all good ones.... out of 4 good reviews she maintained posted.......2 of them were from the year 2006 ! .Having 20 dogs listed. Thats a poor record ! Thanks for all the honest people such as Rose, Who have come forward to give my family strength with our horrible experience with Patsie. I admire all of you who wants to protect the Yorkshire Terrier breed as well as the other breeds represented........ Past clents of Patsies as well as the reputable good breeders which have come forward who have had the same bad experiences with Patsie and her kennel as i have...... Which shared their storys with me...... To make sure Patsie is held accountable for her actions ......and known poor genetics of the dogs she is breeding for the profit of it alone ........Thanks, Ron \] |
I'm so sorry this greeder has done this to you and so many other people..... The one good thing you have done is to tell your story maybe by you and others coming forward and making this public it will have some sort of impact on the situation....Eventually, I hope this person is put out of "business"..... I couldn't agree with you more, just because a person is in the "show" world doesn't in any way make that breeder any more trustworthy....sometimes they are worse, some use their "champion" status of their dogs as a selling tactic and we as consumers let our guard down..... Good luck and I hope you get something positive done against her....It would be nice if a class action suit could be done, that would get her attention...... |
"Reville Registered" Settled My Dispute To My Satisfaction I want to thank all the professional breeders and people for their support and professionalism towards my family on this case as posted towards Pat Coburn " Reville Registered " Kennels....On purchasing an 8 month old puppy......... All of you who supported me are to be admired for your dedication with honesty... To keep this beautiful breed of the " Yorkshire Terrier " sound in health and protected with good intent in doing so............ This is a powerful site for the welfair of the Yorkshire Terrier's....... After 10 weeks / Pat Coburn has settled my dispute to my satisfaction ....... And the case is now closed. Again my sincere thanks with appreciation to everyone who supported this blog posted, Sincerely, Ronald Lundin |
Revelle I purchased a "breeding pair" of chocolate toy Poodles from Pat last year. I had emailed back and forth with Pat in regards to the pair. They were supposed to be 2 and 3 years old. Being Mothers Day weekend I had plans to take my mother out on Sun, which is the day Pat wanted to meet in Lexington as she was going to be at her daughters that day. So my husband offered to drive the 3 hours one way and pick them up for me. I wish I would have gone along and taken my mom out another day. My husband called my cell from the daughters home on his cell. He said that Pat said she had forgotten the papers and wanted to know if it was ok to go ahead and take them. Having seen her website and the fact that she was a show breeder I thought she was trustworthy so I said yes. They were beautifully groomed. All fluffed up and gorgeous. It wasn't until I put my hands on the male that I could feel every bone in his frail body. I checked his teeth and they were horrible. Took them both in to my vet the next day. In his opinion these dogs were 8 -10 yrs old. I emailed Pat over and over again and never heard anything from her. She refused to answer calls or emails. Buyer Beware, stay far away from this breeder. |
REvelle And BTW I never received my paper work for the dogs. A year later and the little females has never come in season. I see ads on hoobly all the time from her. How many dogs does this woman have? |
Wow, another one, how very, very sad. |
How in the world...........??? As a "show breeder", I would be VERY interested in exactly what "lines" she is breeding and continues to breed, contaminating the gene pool with grade 4 LP. |
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