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Yorkie_pup 10-24-2007 03:09 PM
Champion pedigree???
 
Should you be impressed by a sires pedigree if there is one or maybe two champions in the great grandparents?
Would you call it the third generation?

Mardelin 10-24-2007 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Yorkie_pup (Post 1458582)
Should you be impressed by a sires pedigree if there is one or maybe two champions in the great grandparents?
Would you call it the third generation?
Not sure about being impressed....What I would be more concerned with is the line within the pedigree, knowing everything about each dog within the pedigree....what they produced, their health, temperament and structure...were they all good representation of the breed.

Gazou 10-24-2007 04:55 PM
I am not impressed at all about the number of champions in a pedigree . I am more impressed about a dog having a very good conformation .

YorkieRose 10-25-2007 04:36 AM
pedigree
 
No, it would not impress me...many champions do not impress me either when I see them in person. I will admit I am impressed by an all red 3 generation pedigree...had one once. I respect the work and dedication it took by the breeder.

BamaFan121s 10-25-2007 05:25 AM
Not really. When the CH is that far back in the pedigree, those champion qualities have become so diluted that they really contribute little to the pup being born 4 generations later. More than likely, if you have someone trying to brag about it to you, then it's someone trying to convince you they have something more than what they actually have and someone who is tryinig to claim what someone else worked hard for years ago that they really had no hand in:)

crystalsmom 10-25-2007 05:42 AM
No, it would not impress me.

chachi 10-25-2007 05:47 AM
To me it would be better than no Champions in the pedigree

BamaFan121s 10-25-2007 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 1459911)
To me it would be better than no Champions in the pedigree
I guess. But if you have someone who aquired it and bred to crap ever since, then 4 generations later, you have a dog that is 15/16ths crap and 1/16 Champion.:p

chachi 10-25-2007 06:02 AM
LOL I see your point

BamaFan121s 10-25-2007 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 1459946)
LOL I see your point
Still better than 16/16ths crap, I guess...lol.:p

Yorkie_pup 10-25-2007 06:56 AM
I look at some of the breeders websites and these pedigrees are splashed all over the site with champs kind of far back and they act like they have something so special. I think the average person really doesn't know any better and they are impressed with it and think they are getting something special. I guess having this marketing ploy is a way to justify having such outrages prices.

BamaFan121s 10-25-2007 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Yorkie_pup (Post 1460107)
I guess having this marketing ploy is a way to justify having such outrages prices.
Many times, yes, you are right. That is where you have to try to determine who is just trying to charge the prices and who is truly trying to implement good lines with the intent of continuing with producing quality offspring.

Mardelin 10-25-2007 07:22 AM
A pedigree when looked at by breeder, it is blueprint to assist them in their breeding program and not as an advertising ploy. When using it as such it assists the breeder in identifying each dog and their attributes. Knowing what is behind each dog, what each dog has produced.

Dam & Sire contribute 50% of the genetic makeup; GrandSire and GrandDam 25%; Great GrandSire and Great Granddam 12%....anything beyond that contributes almost zilch.......that is unless a certain dog is repeated several times within the pedigree.


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