Originally Posted by tiggerr36792 (Post 1384837)

Make sure the pup is warm by being on a heating pad or having a heat lamp on him. Either get him to nurse or feed him yourself till he gets the hang of it. You can tube feed, use a syringe or even an eye dropper. If you put nutri-drops or karo on his tongue to bring up his sugar level it usually will make them more hungry too.

Originally Posted by Lady of Yorkies (Post 1384848)

Yes, thank you. I haven't tried to tube him because he will swallow the milk when I put it on his tongue. I was told that as long as they will swallow on their own that I shouldn't tube them because they can get used to it and then won't nurse. I have been using DYNE mixed with puppy formula. I am using an eye dropper. It measures 3/4 ml when I use it. Do you know how much a baby can hold? So far I can get him to take 2 of those. Sylvia

Originally Posted by Susan123 (Post 1384844)

Please keep him warm, preemies need to be kept warmer than reg. babies, if you think he's a preemie. Here is a quote from an article "A premature puppy, however, has left the "oven" (100-101 at time of delivery) too early; before the cookie is cooked, so to speak.* He isn't ready to be at 95-96 degrees.**He is an "unbaked" cookie.* He needs to continue the baking process until the day arrives for his correct delivery date.* His temp needs to be around 100 degrees and stable.* (once the puppy is stable, you can begin decreasing the temp about 1/2 degree every day until by delivery day, he should be good at 95-96 degrees) Use a heating pad set at 100 degrees and use a rheostat (available at Pet Smart and used for Reptiles) to set his*warming pad temp at 100 degrees."

You can wrap a cloth around him as his nurses, if he gets chilled death is certain. He really needs a heating pad. I understand money woes, is there someone you can borrow from? How is his breathing? Usually if they're premature their lungs are not developed well as they are still very "sticky inside". If taken to the vet they can give dex or dopram to help that.

Whether he is a preemie or not there are there 3 things to remember(to me) is Water (hydrate, sub q if available), Sugar (energy), and Warmth. Never feed a chilled puppy. I know if you're like me you're doing all you can for him. Please keep it up for him.

Originally Posted by Sunnie (Post 1384846)

Very Good Sylvia! My mom didn't want to stay with hers at first but she did much better after a few days. Remember what I said about keeping them warm. It should be 85 degrees where the babies are for the first week, then 80 the next, then about 75 until they are a bit bigger. Even if it feels warm to you, the baby will die quickly if it gets cool. If the baby starts acting sluggish or stops nursing chances are he is cold. Seriously use a receiving blanket or something to keep him covered.

Originally Posted by Susan123 (Post 1384857)

I have (well my sisters) and at the end of the day I could say I did all that I could. In between whelps, I prepare myself and study and see if there is any thing that I need that perhaps it won't happen again. Although, we know it just happens sometimes. That puppy may be 1 of 3 litters are 1 of 3 puppies. We give that puppy our all because we brought it into this world, and it's our responsibility. (I've taken in a 1 ounce and they said she would likely die, but she's as healthy as a horse because I took her to the vet and asked them to teach me how to tube feed her)

Originally Posted by tiggerr36792 (Post 1384858)

I have been told to give preemies about 1 cc every hour to every 2 hours depending on how full their tummy feels and whether or not mom is providing some milk or not. He may get some milk from mom which is good and then you will only need to suppliment. You are right about tube feeding not being necessary if you are getting milk in him. You MUST keep this baby warm!!

Originally Posted by tiggerr36792 (Post 1384813)

I'm sorry if this comes across as being rude, but you shouldn't NOT take them to the vet cause you didn't buget properly for this litter. Can't your vet let you make payments so your mom and her pup can be checked. I would hate to think you weren't giving them proper care when there has to be a way to make sure they are okay even if it means borrowing it from someone.

As a breeder its your responsibility to make sure they get any needed vet care. I hope you understand where I'm comming from and I truely don't mean to hurt anyones feelings as this is just my opinion.

Originally Posted by Lady of Yorkies (Post 1384894)

Ok, then I am doing it right. I am trying to feed him every 2 hours and trying him on mom first. I try to get 2 - 3/4ml into him at a time. If I can see his belly is bigger than before I started I am happy.

I have 2 more smaller than him. I am keeping them all warm and they are right beside me. 2 born yesterday and this little guy today. Sylvia

Originally Posted by Sunnie (Post 1384916)

You are doing good. I agree with the others about how important it is to see the vet, but I also understand if you CAN'T, then you can't as sad as that is. Just be sure and try to get him to nurse before you give him supplement. It is so important to get moms colstrum. Supplementing should be done AFTER he has nursed if he needs it. Even if you have to hold Mom in place to get her to stay there and nurse him, she will learn in a few days. She should be in there with him all the time except when going out to potty. You might have to stay right there with her to make her stay with him. And I am going to say it again.. WARM WARM WARM.. I cannot stress enough how important that is. I have to leave for a couple of hours but I will check back when I get home.. Please don't stop posting.. Keep us informed until this little guy is out of danger.
Sonya

Originally Posted by yoursotino (Post 1384936)

If you have a heating pad put him on that I actually hold them up to the mom teat to nurse. Nutra Cal or Karo helps if you can get someone to get you some esbilac milk replacement so you can feed the puppy if she keeps refusing him. I will keep him in my prayers I know it is nerve racking. I had a first time mom (different breed) keep pushing a baby away and I kept putting her back she finally started nursing her and the baby did fine. Just keep him warm

Originally Posted by Sunnie (Post 1385167)

How's the baby doing Sylvia? I have been thinking about you while I was gone.. I hope he is doing better.
Sonya

Originally Posted by Lady of Yorkies (Post 1385290)

So far so good. I put him on his mom 2x and then transferred him to a more experienced mom and put one of her babies on Jewel. Everyone seems happy except that baby. Boy is he loud! Grandma just had babies yesterday so he should still be getting the colestrum. I guess I won't get much sleep tonight, watching him and the other babies. Sylvia

Originally Posted by yorkiekist (Post 1385188)

He does look a little immature in the pictures. Did she go full term or was she early?? Sometimes first moms are nervous and dont take good care of the pups. Is she done delivering?? They dont usually settle down with the pups until they are done. Does she have milk? If she doesnt take care of him, can you put him on the other girl that just had puppies and knows what to do?
Lynn

Originally Posted by peanut (Post 1385229)

I know with Lexie she had a c-section and was pretty much out of it, but I had to put her in a little crate to stay with them at first, I would also put her on my bed and get her to lay on her side and help and make sure they were nursing, the boy we had no problems he was trying to suck everything but the girl worried me, and they both weighed 3.5, make sure he is warm and she is doing good, Lexie wouldn't ever stay near them for long, but after the meds wore off that night you can't get her away, you may have to help him nurse on her till he and she gets the hang of it.

Originally Posted by peanut (Post 1385303)

Bless your heart, glad he is nursing , no sleep for you, or not alot of sleep, I still haven't sleep through the night yet...:rolleyes: :)

Originally Posted by Sunnie (Post 1385317)

As long as he is loud, you will know he is ok. I agree, no sleep for you tonight.. keep us updated dear.
Sonya

Originally Posted by Susan123 (Post 1385656)

It seems the switch is doing well, getting mom use to a pup at least. Bless his heart, crying all the time. I'm like you, hope that's not indicative of anything being wrong. I don't know if I read right or not, has his hurse or eaten yet? That's great that you know how to tube, it's a good way to know their definitely getting so much (cc's) of food.

Next time you put him with mom just to let them bond, I've heard of smearing peanut butter (or something mom may like) on the puppy. That will help them to lick them and "acquaint" themselves with one another.

I feel for you tonight, I know you'll be worried about him. We'll be thinking of you two, and checking in.

Originally Posted by Lady of Yorkies (Post 1385702)

Thank you, prayers for our little ones would be appreciated. I thot about putting something on him but she seems to be doing ok with the little one we loaned her. I will try switching them back later tonight and see if everything works out properly. Yes, he did nurse on his mama but she was fighting me until the endorphins kicked in or whatever. But if she moved even a little he would lose his grip. Grandma has longer nipples so he can get a better grip on her. The other baby with mama can calm her down and show her how it is done and then when I put him back maybe everything will work. Sylvia