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mizzwanned 06-30-2007 04:42 PM
Is 4-4 1/2 lbs okay to breed?
 
I have heard different things from different people...I have heard it is safe to breed females 5 lbs and up but what if their build is really small and they have tiny hips? I have also heard that it is okay to breed around a 4lb female depending on her built..so what is true? Is it okay to breed a 4.5 lb female if she has the built and can carry the babies? Btw I don't breed but I am just wondering and doing tons of research.

Mardelin 06-30-2007 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by mizzwanned (Post 1205230)
I have heard different things from different people...I have heard it is safe to breed females 5 lbs and up but what if their build is really small and they have tiny hips? I have also heard that it is okay to breed around a 4lb female depending on her built..so what is true? Is it okay to breed a 4.5 lb female if she has the built and can carry the babies? Btw I don't breed but I am just wondering and doing tons of research.
I'm not an advocate of breeding anything less than 5 pounds. However, there are other determining factors that come in to play.....is she a line of free whelpers, when you do the necessary measurements....2 fingers, 3 fingers.....do they fit comfortably inbetween the pelvic bones, and end of anus and top of vaginal opening. Is she of medium bone and not fine boned. Also, you take the chance of her being impregnated with a bigger litter, does she have the room to carry a larger litter. And if she can, will she be able to nurse them properly......The sire and his line, has he been proven and what are the size pups he throws

BamaFan121s 06-30-2007 05:01 PM
I have to agree with Mardelin here with the 5 pound rule. Even then though, there are other things to consider. We have a 5 1/2 pound girl (spayed) that has a frame that was WAY to small to even consider her for a breeding bitch. I'm know it isn't impossible , but I can't imagine it being a great idea.:)

Mardelin 06-30-2007 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 1205262)
I have to agree with Mardelin here with the 5 pound rule. Even then though, there are other things to consider. We have a 5 1/2 pound girl (spayed) that has a frame that was WAY to small to even consider her for a breeding bitch. I'm know it isn't impossible , but I can't imagine it being a great idea.:)
Hey Bama....great to see you back.

Mary

BamaFan121s 06-30-2007 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 1205274)
Hey Bama....great to see you back.
Well ya know, has some business affairs to take care of. Finally got some free time on my hands. :p Thanks!

BTW mizz-- Kudos to you for taking the time to research, either for future adventures in breeding or just out of curiosity.:thumbup: :thumbup:

mizzwanned 06-30-2007 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 1205240)
I'm not an advocate of breeding anything less than 5 pounds. However, there are other determining factors that come in to play.....is she a line of free whelpers, when you do the necessary measurements....2 fingers, 3 fingers.....do they fit comfortably inbetween the pelvic bones, and end of anus and top of vaginal opening. Is she of medium bone and not fine boned. Also, you take the chance of her being impregnated with a bigger litter, does she have the room to carry a larger litter. And if she can, will she be able to nurse them properly......The sire and his line, has he been proven and what are the size pups he throws
Wow that's a lot to consider but I figured that. I wonder how the heck people just breed dogs without knowing anything, there is so much to know. Thank you for the info :thumbup:

mizzwanned 06-30-2007 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 1205262)
I have to agree with Mardelin here with the 5 pound rule. Even then though, there are other things to consider. We have a 5 1/2 pound girl (spayed) that has a frame that was WAY to small to even consider her for a breeding bitch. I'm know it isn't impossible , but I can't imagine it being a great idea.:)
Yea that's why I asked about the built...cause a female can weigh a decent amount but still be built very small. I have heard of females that were bred that were about 7 lbs and they had to have C-sections..and then I have heard of 4 lb females that have the babies themselves without problems.

mizzwanned 06-30-2007 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 1205289)
Well ya know, has some business affairs to take care of. Finally got some free time on my hands. :p Thanks!

BTW mizz-- Kudos to you for taking the time to research, either for future adventures in breeding or just out of curiosity.:thumbup: :thumbup:
Thank you! :) IDK if I want to breed in the future or not but I am doing research anyway cause it's good to know since I am a Yorkie owner. I bred and raised cockatiels and I know it's totally different from Yorkies lol but I enjoyed hand feeding them and seeing them grow and trust me even those little birds are a huge responsibility and I started doing this at 17 yrs old..it wasn't planned btw but my cockatiel pair just kept having eggs

BamaFan121s 06-30-2007 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mizzwanned (Post 1205309)
I wonder how the heck people just breed dogs without knowing anything, there is so much to know.
Lol...there are words for that, but I don't think we are allowed to use them here...;) :p

I have a Cockateil named Aussie! :) She lays eggs and gets grouchy all the time. It is so much fun. <not> When she isn't, she likes to sit on my head and stare at my eye. Unnerving, really...

Mardelin 06-30-2007 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mizzwanned (Post 1205312)
Yea that's why I asked about the built...cause a female can weigh a decent amount but still be built very small. I have heard of females that were bred that were about 7 lbs and they had to have C-sections..and then I have heard of 4 lb females that have the babies themselves without problems.

You are so right....there have been 7 pound bitches that have been bred that are perfectly stuctured for whelping litters. A pup could get stuck going up the otherside to the other horn, be too big because it's in the horn by itself and grown too much or be too big and can't present itself and blocked off the rest of the litter and the whole litter is lost. So, yes you are right, research is best and research everything, pedigrees, lines, genetics, breeding, whelping, raising a litter. You can't prepare too much.

Mardelin 06-30-2007 05:50 PM
[QUOTE=BamaFan121s;1205289]Well ya know, has some business affairs to take care of. Finally got some free time on my hands. :p Thanks!


I know how that is....but, regardless I'm glad you're back.


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