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Sugar's Mom 04-27-2007 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by lisatodd (Post 1089316)
what size hemostats do you use? i have some but it looks too small.
Lisa, mine are five inches endd to end. just right for the little tails and probably too large for dew claws. We had to cut dew claws last time on the two out of the litter that even had them.

daisy mae06 04-27-2007 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by HighlandYorkies (Post 1082027)
OUCH ! Leave them poor tails:) alone to wag happily for a lifetime, lol.;)
:D See pics.....;)
I love the beautiful tails and bodies of your crew the are very pretty:)
Docked or not Yorkies are The most beautiful dogs :)

lisatodd 04-27-2007 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom (Post 1089325)
Lisa, mine are five inches endd to end. just right for the little tails and probably too large for dew claws. We had to cut dew claws last time on the two out of the litter that even had them.
mine are 5 inches as well. my last litter i could not dock them b/c my husband was out of town....my neighbor was in the hospital w appendicites (sp?) and my daughter had a 102 temp. so i had no help and too scared to do it all my own. so my three boys have tails.

i don't like the look. i see why they dock tails now. from the base they are fat then they get skinny. you can actually see where they need to be docked. i am sure when the hair grows in, you cannot tell.

HighlandYorkies 04-27-2007 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by daisy mae06 (Post 1089330)
I love the beautiful tails and bodies of your crew the are very pretty:)
Docked or not Yorkies are The most beautiful dogs :)
Thanks so much for your kind comments ! Your dogs are sweet too, such sweet faces ! ......and the pic of your little girl is so cute......you must be a proud Mom, like I am about my now grown, stunning nearly 17yr old girl;) ....pic below when she was 4 ! We mothers, honestly, lol:D
By the way my Gran, now gone, was from NEBRASKA, and moved away when she was 10;) I still have relatives there as her two older (late teens) sisters stayed and married there...:thumbup:
:animal-pa Debra x x x x

dabaxter 04-01-2012 06:15 PM
We docked ours ourselves
 
We docked our Giant Schnauzer puppies ourselves versus the trauma and cost of taking them to a vet. We removed dew claws and docked tails per the breed standard.
We watched videos on youtube to learn and we used forceps and our fingers. That's it. I was not pleasant, but the pups were unharmed. Same outcome as going to the vet. We used white oak bark capsules to stop bleeding. We found the liquid bandage glue to be useless. Pups are doing fine.

Yorkiemom1 04-02-2012 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 1082004)
Tried the cutting method and clamping method, prefer the clamping, clamp just where the tail begins to narrow. Being a show/breeder I'm pretty particular about getting it the right length, and the narrowing point works for me.....I do it on the 3rd day, that is unless a pup is on the small side, then I wait until the 5th day. Never noticed a weight loss.....and I do weigh twice a day for the first month.....I do cover with liquid bandage, just to protect against infection...
I am not a show breeder, but this is exactly how I was taught to do it when I worked for a vet in 1966-1972!!! The step by step is just right on target, I do mine at 3 days, if a baby is "iffy", I wait to day 5....I do my tails longer because on day three, I am not good enough to know if I may have someone that is destined for the show ring, so I just do my tails "show length" as described above.....and if you take your index finger on the hand that is turning the hemostat, and put it in the finger hole, you can rapidly twist /rotate that hemostat around and get the job done so very quickly and effortlessly, and the tip seals off completely with NO blood loss.

Yorkiemom1 04-02-2012 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Lady of Yorkies (Post 1082080)
Oh, how I would love to but people want Yorkies that look like the show Yorkies. I am praying for the day when the US also "outlaws" tail docking. I don't think it will happen any time soon. There are too many "standards" and show people upholding them for it to happen soon.

I think it's allllllmost as hard on me as it is on them. I can barely stand to do it.
I absolutely HATE doing it....I have to do one and sit and breathe for a minute...then do another and take a break....I too am praying they outlaw taildocking....just because I hate doing it! I know it is not painful to the babies when you do it early 5 days or less....and dew claws....I hate doing dew claws....If I had people on my waiting lists ask me NOT to do their baby's tail and dew claws, I would love it!

Yorkiemom1 04-02-2012 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by xxmxaxrxyxx (Post 1087358)
Well I found this video...while searching googles for videos on tail docking...with the lady talking you thru the whole process...

Docking tails
I watched the video...it is great....I was taught to use 2 clamps....1st clamp goes right where you want the tail length to be, the second clamp goes right up next to the 1st clamp, on the side of the tail that is going to come off....and then you put your index finger in the finger hole of the second clamp, and you can rotate that second clamp like an airlplane propeller and the tail comes off! A bit of consolation....remember, nerve development starts at the head and works down to the end of the tail...this is why you do it 5 days or less...the nerves have not completely developed down the tail and it doesnt hurt so much....THE SMALL HEMOSTATS ARE CALLED "MOSQUITOS" OR "MOSQUITO CLAMPS" for those who are buying them from surgical supply...that is the size I use.

carmen in nj 04-02-2012 07:35 AM
My son does the clamping method for me at home, I am a CHIKEN, I can't get myself to do it, I have assisted my son while doing the docking but he does all the clamping, twisting and I use a product call Clotisol to seal the exposed flesh while it heals..
hugs,

xxmxaxrxyxx 04-02-2012 10:20 AM
wow pretty old thread but useful information still till this day...i don't think i could ever build up the nerves to dock tails and remove dew claws...

Nancy1999 04-02-2012 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by xxmxaxrxyxx (Post 3869596)
wow pretty old thread but useful information still till this day...i don't think i could ever build up the nerves to dock tails and remove dew claws...
I just wish I could clip the nails.

yorkietalkjilly 04-02-2012 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3869636)
I just wish I could clip the nails.
LOL. Same here! I have to use that Pedipaws and file them down with that! That's tough enough. :)

Nancy1999 04-02-2012 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 3869667)
LOL. Same here! I have to use that Pedipaws and file them down with that! That's tough enough. :)
I used a Pedipaws too, and that just took too long, I can drive to the groomers and back before I can file one nail.

Yorkiemom1 04-02-2012 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by xxmxaxrxyxx (Post 3869596)
wow pretty old thread but useful information still till this day...i don't think i could ever build up the nerves to dock tails and remove dew claws...
YES!!! and my bad!! I have GOT to remember to look at the dates on these threads and quit chiming in on stuff years old!

gemy 04-02-2012 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3869668)
I used a Pedipaws too, and that just took too long, I can drive to the groomers and back before I can file one nail.
I'm sorry Nancy. But ROFLMAO. This just struck me as soo soo funny.

That gave me a great visual with a happy chuckle. What about clipping the nails? Just asking ......

Nancy1999 04-02-2012 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1 (Post 3869681)
YES!!! and my bad!! I have GOT to remember to look at the dates on these threads and quit chiming in on stuff years old!
Some of these subjects never really get old, so it's great to bump old threads.

Yorkiemom1 04-02-2012 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3869684)
Some of these subjects never really get old, so it's great to bump old threads.
I saw "HEMOSTATS" and "DOCK TAILS" and tore loose typing! But I did enjoy reading how others do it....you always want to be sure you are doing something right! When you start thinking you know everything about something in particular, you end up getting burned!

Nancy1999 04-02-2012 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1 (Post 3869701)
I saw "HEMOSTATS" and "DOCK TAILS" and tore loose typing! But I did enjoy reading how others do it....you always want to be sure you are doing something right! When you start thinking you know everything about something in particular, you end up getting burned!
Mardelin has lots of posts here, and I really think everyone, especially breeders, could learn something from reading her posts. Lol, she's an RN too! She hasn't been on lately, but her posts so informative.

xxmxaxrxyxx 04-02-2012 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3869636)
I just wish I could clip the nails.
i can clip all their nails except for Mei Ling...that is a little devil in disguise and who can blame here because she has always been nervous when it came to nail clipping and the many times i have tried to clip it she always pulls or yank right when i am clipping and and i end up making her bleed...the main thing is to stay calm or else they start getting nervous.

Yorkiemom1 04-02-2012 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3869726)
Mardelin has lots of posts here, and I really think everyone, especially breeders, could learn something from reading her posts. Lol, she's an RN too! She hasn't been on lately, but her posts so informative.
I look at the poster's name as well as the topic, and anytime I see her name on something, I go to it! Always very informative!!

Nancy1999 04-02-2012 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1 (Post 3869763)
I look at the poster's name as well as the topic, and anytime I see her name on something, I go to it! Always very informative!!
Yes, I miss Mary very much. Hope she comes back!

carmen in nj 04-02-2012 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3869769)
Yes, I miss Mary very much. Hope she comes back!
Ditto, I miss Mary a lot, we used to chat a lot.. and exchange lots of ideas...
hugs,

yorkietalkjilly 04-02-2012 02:21 PM
When I first joined, she posted a lot and was so knowledgeable about Yorkies. And she had a fun sense of humor!

Nancy1999 04-02-2012 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 3869815)
When I first joined, she posted a lot and was so knowledgeable about Yorkies. And she had a fun sense of humor!
I miss that the most!

ash04ley 04-02-2012 05:27 PM
WOW interesting thread!! I couldnt ever imagine doing that twisting. MY STOMACH TWISTED while reading it. I actually left Pheobes first litter of two with long tails. I ADORE IT! granted they both were just going to family and i knew they would not be show homes. My mother has her little girl and shes just sucha doll with her long tail... i ache to have a long tailed Yorkie. Either way, Yorkies are BEAUTIFUL.. but i truly do wish the standard was accepting to long tails.

Now this has got me wondering.... If a mother were to have a long tail, does that affect her pups as far as AKC registration?? I cant imagine why it would.. if her pups were docked. But im curious now.... hmmmm.

Yorkiemom1 04-02-2012 05:52 PM
No! She can have a tail 5 feet long and wrapped around an orange juice can so she can carry it....it has NO effect on the babies registration! As long as the dam and sire are both registered AKC, the babies are registerable with AKC!

Micah my love 04-02-2012 06:00 PM
I have always had mine done at the vets office :)

Breny 04-02-2012 06:33 PM
I posted this in 2007

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Originally Posted by Breny (Post 1082809)
I currently take mine to my vet. But I just learned of a vet who actually numbs the tail first with an injection before docking them. I am going to try him next. Whether or not it actually helps, or numbs it at all, it still makes me feel easy thinking they are not feeling it.

I think I would not do it at all if it was not the standard. I love their long tails as much as their tiny nubs. :)

My plan was to take on doing it myself, but after watching it done with the twist method :eek: there's just no way. I have WAY to much emotion to handle it :)

Maybe in 20 years :)


OK didn't take me 20 years but only 5 LOL. I love reading old posts from years ago. (even to see some of the silly things I have said! :eek:) LOL :p

RustysMom 04-02-2012 07:43 PM
I love reading the older posts and always look forward to seeing them up again for discussion....so much good information here on YT...In years past there were some good breeders here (still are like Breny and Mardelin) where is YorkieRose? Alas, many, many left YT due to the viciousness of others...

Anyway, such good informative info in these old posts...bump them anytime!

Nancy1999 04-02-2012 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by RustysMom (Post 3870159)
I love reading the older posts and always look forward to seeing them up again for discussion....so much good information here on YT...In years past there were some good breeders here (still are like Breny and Mardelin) where is YorkieRose? Alas, many, many left YT due to the viciousness of others...

Anyway, such good informative info in these old posts...bump them anytime!
Yes, I loved YorkieRose and Woogieman too. Hope they return someday.


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