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I have somewhat of a stupid question.... I hear if you breed the mom and the son, you will get smaller yorkies.... is that true? |
No!!! But any genetic defects that the mother might have passed on to her son will come out in their offspring. Exprienced breeders do this occasionally, but only when they know the history of their dogs for many generations. It is not something a novice should try. |
hmm We did not actually plan for the mother and son to lock up, at all. It just sort of happened. I had to move out of my other house to move back in with my mother and I had her dogs son, then I had to go to Tennessee to visit a sick grandmother and my mom called and told me they locked up lol. I was just wondering if what I was hearing was true or not. |
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so.... The vet said the pups looked very healthy in the sonogram. I thought it was alright after he said that. Like what defects could there be? Now I am worried |
Not all genetic flaws will show up in a sonogram. There is a chance they will be fine if there were no serious defects in their ancestry. Since it's already happened there isn't much you can do, but hope for the best. I wish you luck. |
Inbreeding - two very closely related dogs for example, two dogs that have the same sire (father). Inbreeding can be used when you want to accentuate-very quickly- a particular trait associated with that family. Inbreeding should not be attempted by the novice. It requires the skill of an experienced breeder who knows the detailed histories of dogs involved, and who will only proceed if they are confident that the resulting offspring will be sound and healthy, as well as being typical specimens of the breed. |
This happened Years ago with my gramma's dog Mom and son had one pup he ended up with a REALLY bad under bite and was for lack of a better word dumb as a bag of rocks. I felt so sorry for this fella He did go to a wonderfull home and had a good life. But she had to spend alot of money on teeth later in life. I really hope all your pups turn out ok. I will keep you in my prayers. |
This is called inbreeding and should NEVER be done, IMO. Like others have mentioned, if there are any undesired traits in the genetic background, this type of breeding promotes those traits to present themselves. I can't even pretend to understand the knowledge and experience needed for breeders to test breed some dogs. As you said, this was an accident:rolleyes: , not something you intentionally let happen, but I really hope there are NOT people out there making this type of breeding a routine practice just at the hope to produce smaller dogs.:mad: :thumbdown |
If I am reading this correctly I think the deed has been done....I think she is asking maybe 'now what'.. maybe I'am wrong...but thought I would throw it out there cause it sounds like she may need some good help from you excellent breeders....:) |
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okay Now I am worried about the pups. We so did not mean for this to happen *At All!* I kinda wish that this did not happen, I thought it would have been fine seeing as how they did not have the same father or anything, the only thing is that they are mother and son. I really thought that everything was going to be alright and now i read the responses I am really really worried about the little guys already. Thanks for the imput |
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And yes Mardelin, termination of the pregnancy would have been my suggestion as well. |
I just know that all of you know what your doing and have probably dealt with or heard of almost everything there is to breeding, I consider you all the experts and me the I know nothing "person" thats all I meant by my post..:) |
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No I didn't, I know you guys always help, but I didn't know if you caught the fact it was done, I didn't till the end...and I didn't think your were negative, I didn't want you guys to think I was being a smart butt either....:) |
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Not so much a rookie...you know what not to do... Inbreeding is something I don't know much about, as the most experience breeders that I know, have not done it, at least not shared there experiences with me. Or it could be that they feel I'm not far enough along to share that with. I've never asked about it, since I've had no reason to want to attempt it.....I'm crazy, but not insane or stupid. So, I have no words of expertise, wisdom or otherwise. |
Well since it has already been done, there is nothing any of us can do except God. Like I was saying in the recent posts, it was an accident, we were not practicing breeding nor did we want to start breeding. But here we are, we got 4 pups getting ready to be brought in the world and no matter what is wrong with them I am sure that they are going to be beautiful, just the way God intended. She has not had them yet, but it is getting really really close. I am praying for the best and hope that the whelping goes by smoothly and with no difficulties. I understand that you guys were trying to help and whatnot but with the posts that I have been reading it just sort of seemed like you guys did not believe that it was an accident. I did not think anything of it when she got pregnant. I was told by my closest friends that they had heard that you just get smaller yorkies when you breed them, and that is what I was asking the breeders here on this site. Thank you for your concerns and advice. |
breeding You may find a size reduction in the pups...you may also find them all healthy..it will just depend on what genetic faults are in the line and what pups get what, if anything..the problems of a close inbreeding does not always show at 8 or 12 weeks..or even 12 months...some genetic problems come later in life..for this reason it is always best to be up front with the new owner, telling them the puppies are closely inbred and allow them to decide...of course one look at the pedigree will tell anyone what happened. Accidental breedings happen, repeated "accidental" breedings do not... |
Yes I know repeated breedings like this are not accidental, however this was the first time it has happened. It will not happen again I can tell you that much lol I got shocked into scared mode when everyone was telling me about the defects, but I got over the fact. It is not my, my mothers or anyone elses fault..... it just sort of happened:thumbdown but nothing to do but hope for the best right? I mean there might not be anything at all wrong with them for all I know, right?:) ;) :D |
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Sounds to me after reading your posts that you really wanted this to kinda happen, you certainly werent trying for it not to happen. Why have neither of these dogs been fixed?? It is soooo easy to keep your dogs in seperate rooms. Too late now, I wish you luck. |
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The male can only get his female chromosome from his Mom. Therefore, it was recommended that we never breed Mother to Son because it was doubling up on the same chromosome. Creating genetic defects. Some of which may not be visable, but mental. Please be up front with the new owners, so they may be able to avoid or at least understand problems that may arise. Fault is neither here nor there, but spaying and neutering early will prevent any accidental breeding. IMO Wishing you luck with the babies. |
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