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scrapindee 03-16-2007 06:10 PM
DNA done when
 
If there was a possibility of the female having connected with 2 males, when should the DNA be done on potential fathers, mother and puppies? Why would a breeder wait until the pups were almost 11 weeks old?

YorkieRose 03-16-2007 06:20 PM
Dna
 
The dam does not need to be DNA'ed unless she has other pups all together and has no clue whose are whose...
Most breeders would want to know sooner then later..why they have waited is no clue to me...

scrapindee 03-18-2007 11:17 AM
I agree, sooner would have been better. Does the testing create any health problems for the puppies--would this be a reason to delay??

Mardelin 03-18-2007 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by scrapindee (Post 1011617)
I agree, sooner would have been better. Does the testing create any health problems for the puppies--would this be a reason to delay??
No all that is done is the inside of the mouth (cheek) is swabbed with a cotton swabbed stick that is provided in a DNA package. The stick is then reinserted back into it's original package and mailed back to AKC.

Mary

BamaFan121s 03-18-2007 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 1011841)
No all that is done is the inside of the mouth (cheek) is swabbed with a cotton swabbed stick that is provided in a DNA package. The stick is then reinserted back into it's original package and mailed back to AKC.

What if they are not AKC dogs?

Mardelin 03-18-2007 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 1011865)
What if they are not AKC dogs?
I really can't answer that, since I only register my dogs with AKC and my sires are done way before I use them for stud, usually as pups.

BamaFan121s 03-18-2007 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 1011918)
I really can't answer that, since I only register my dogs with AKC and my sires are done way before I use them for stud, usually as pups.
I was just wondering if there are some other registries that would require a testing method that would warrant waiting until they are older.:)

Mardelin 03-18-2007 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 1011947)
I was just wondering if there are some other registries that would require a testing method that would warrant waiting until they are older.:)
I don't think other registries are as stringent. But, I'm sure it can be researched pretty easily. Just never needed to.

straightsilk 03-18-2007 03:31 PM
It can be done as soon as the puppies are weaned.

BamaFan121s 03-18-2007 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 1011952)
Just never needed to.
Lol...same here. Maybe one day when I'm bored...

txshopper73 03-18-2007 04:51 PM
Seems strange that they would wait so long to DNA the pups. If the pups are AKC, when you register the litter, there's some where where you state that you saw the breeding and say that only one male tied with the female (at least on line).

Mardelin 03-18-2007 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by txshopper73 (Post 1012198)
Seems strange that they would wait so long to DNA the pups. If the pups are AKC, when you register the litter, there's some where where you state that you saw the breeding and say that only one male tied with the female (at least on line).
You are right, .but there have been switches and forging of records, even whelping dates marked incorrectly so that those breeders can sell them off as small ones for bigger prices....or there are those puppy millers that breed and then advertise a puppy, so if you are a potential new family, you weren't there to witness the breeding. Say the breeder is the owner of the stud and dam......I know most breeders wouldn't do these things, but they are done every day

txshopper73 03-18-2007 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 1012229)
You are right, .but there have been switches and forging of records, even whelping dates marked incorrectly so that those breeders can sell them off as small ones for bigger prices....or there are those puppy millers that breed and then advertise a puppy, so if you are a potential new family, you weren't there to witness the breeding. Say the breeder is the owner of the stud and dam......I know most breeders wouldn't do these things, but they are done every day
You are right...and I've heard rumors of breeders that have done this. Purely unethical and they have no business breeding!:thumbdown

Mardelin 03-18-2007 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by txshopper73 (Post 1012235)
You are right...and I've heard rumors of breeders that have done this. Purely unethical and they have no business breeding!:thumbdown

So much goes on out there that its scary and sad. The best we can do is educate the public on what to look for. I know that those things I mentioned aren't easily spotted, but we can educate people on how to spot a good breeder.

BamaFan121s 03-18-2007 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by txshopper73 (Post 1012198)
Seems strange that they would wait so long to DNA the pups. If the pups are AKC, when you register the litter, there's some where where you state that you saw the breeding and say that only one male tied with the female (at least on line).

I think in this case, the pups a Biewers, and therefore not AKC...that's why I was questioning the methods of other registries. :cool:


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