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aluckydog 02-09-2007 10:11 AM
need quick help...is this a bad coat?
 
we're looking at a puppy...I had the owner email me a pic of the mother...she looks awfully gold all over....very light & a lot of gold on her back...I can still see her back saddle...but again it's more gold, than blue...my question is: is this normal, or a mother whose puppies I should walk away from?

But, I also read yorkies often get lighter after being bred. This is this mother's 4th litter & she is about 5 yrs old.

The puppies are black/tan & their markings look fine/normal.

I tried to attach a pic...but the file is too large.


thank you for your responses...we are novices at yorkies...have been wanting for a couple years, but this would be our first....I'm hoping y'all can help!

BLowry 02-09-2007 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by aluckydog (Post 943114)
we're looking at a puppy...I had the owner email me a pic of the mother...she looks awfully gold all over....very light & a lot of gold on her back...I can still see her back saddle...but again it's more gold, than blue...my question is: is this normal, or a mother whose puppies I should walk away from?

But, I also read yorkies often get lighter after being bred. This is this mother's 4th litter & she is about 5 yrs old.

The puppies are black/tan & their markings look fine/normal.

I tried to attach a pic...but the file is too large.


thank you for your responses...we are novices at yorkies...have been wanting for a couple years, but this would be our first....I'm hoping y'all can help!
I am not a breeder therfore, I can't help you there but, without seeing pics it's hard to tell.

IMO..4 litters in 5 yrs is A LOT of breeding...Usually a breeder will skip heats before breeding again. Is she a reputable breeder?...Did you check her out first? Maybe you could talk to some of the others that bought puppies from her. If she is using the same pair to produce puppies this will give you an idea on what the colors would be.

daisy mae06 02-09-2007 10:29 AM
I would get her out of there sounds like to mucj breeding. look at disy in my avatar she is really light. but perfect. Kodi is more black and gold.

daisy mae06 02-09-2007 10:32 AM
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here is a better picture of Daisy.
btw Welcome to YT :)

YorkieRose 02-09-2007 11:31 AM
litters
 
If the breeder bred on the second heat at around 18 months, then 2 1/2 yrs, 3 1/2 yrs and 4 1/2 years..that is a total of 4 litters..that is once a year breeding..well spaced...IMO...this what most breeders do if all goes well...

aluckydog 02-09-2007 03:03 PM
Daisy Mae...Daisy is a doll:) ...thank you for posting the pic to compare the two....I can see Daisy is light. This mom is also light...but her back saddle has about twice the gold in it, that Daisy does. I can see some black...but it's dominated by the gold. She's hasn't turned white...or silver...it's light gold.

Blowry:
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Is she a reputable breeder?...she is a hobby breeder...just has a male & a female, AKC registered...her family pets. Did you check her out first? so far, i've only spoken to her on the phone & requested some pics. I'm quite a long drive from her. I wanted to take a look-see at the pics, to see if I even want to drive that far first. When I saw the dominent gold in the mom's saddle area, I hesitated, wondering if it was a coat that had "ran gold"...a fault....but then I remembered I'd read that yorkies lighten with age & with breeding at times...and I was confused about whether it was supposed to be this light/this much! Just trying to educate myself on the difference between running gold & lightening with age & how much lightening is indeed acceptable. I haven't even asked her yet, if the mom "ran gold" ...or she lightened later...I will, but I wanted to gain some knowledge here first. Maybe you could talk to some of the others that bought puppies from her. If she is using the same pair to produce puppies this will give you an idea on what the colors would be.well I know she's using the same pair, & I guess that would be a good indicater of color, but I have not asked for any contact info on previous litters & don't know if that will be possible. If it makes any difference...all the puppies are definately black/gold & look normal...they are 6 wks now.
I can see...I need to find a way to resize these pics & post them.

Thanks to one & all for the replies...I'll keep working on the pic resize!

katie'smom 02-09-2007 04:04 PM
pic resizer
 
There is a thread on resizing pics if you do a search for it you should be able to download a program that will help. I had the same problem. As for the light color, it is hard to tell without the pictures.

BLowry 02-09-2007 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by YorkieRose (Post 943340)
If the breeder bred on the second heat at around 18 months, then 2 1/2 yrs, 3 1/2 yrs and 4 1/2 years..that is a total of 4 litters..that is once a year breeding..well spaced...IMO...this what most breeders do if all goes well...
I thought it wasn't good to breed every heat? (just asking)

aluckydog 02-09-2007 04:23 PM
It's entirely possible she said the mother was 6 yrs, not 5. She told me one parent was 5 & one was 6 & I could have :confused: easily flip-flopped them.

Anyhoo...I'll look for the thread to resize the pics...thanks katie'smom. If I can't figure that out/find it....I'm uploading them to a snapfish album right now & I'll post a link to that.:rolleyes: :) If there's a will there's a way! :p

The pic is not ideal...but I'm hoping it's enough, that those of you with far more knowledge than I, will be able to take a look & let me know if she looks ok, or to walk away.

link to snapfish or resize is forthcoming soon...thanks again for your help

aluckydog 02-09-2007 06:19 PM
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looked up the resize thread...thank you....here are some pics finally..

trini&coco 02-09-2007 06:40 PM
I have been waiting fir a pic, lol...but I can't really tell much from this pic...:p She is really silky and shiny though!

I am sure someone on here would be able to give you more advice!!! :p

aluckydog 02-09-2007 06:49 PM
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a full shot of her

aluckydog 02-09-2007 06:57 PM
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the cute pups

aluckydog 02-09-2007 06:59 PM
it is hard to tell much...they are not great pics...but they are all I've got

baby03 02-09-2007 07:01 PM
Those pups are adorable! I am not a breeder but the mom looks very pretty to me!! Really cute pups!


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