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Mardelin 02-04-2007 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by YorkieRose (Post 931495)
I emailed her and asked...her reply...

I get many requests for a photo of Gator to see what he looks like..so I out one on my web site...it is too educate.

Well, that is so nice of this breeder..I am sure Bobbie would be thrilled to know it was done to educate...and he has been dead quite some time now.

Well, I would guess it's time to let Bobbi know......wouldn't you think?

Mardelin 02-04-2007 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by YorkieRose (Post 931495)
I emailed her and asked...her reply...

I get many requests for a photo of Gator to see what he looks like..so I out one on my web site...it is too educate.

Well, that is so nice of this breeder..I am sure Bobbie would be thrilled to know it was done to educate...and he has been dead quite some time now.
I wrote her and asked the same thing, but asking if she had Bobbi's permission to have it there? Will see how she responds, and then let Bobbi know.

Ladyhawk 02-04-2007 03:25 PM
Done to educate? Who would even know to ask if they are looking for a pet? Anyone who is really checking out pedigrees can find his picture all over the web. I would guess that Gator's pic and name are considered an intangible asset and are covered under either copyright or trademark law. Either way your not suppose to use it without written consent.

Mardelin 02-04-2007 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Ladyhawk (Post 931704)
Done to educate? Who would even know to ask if they are looking for a pet? Anyone who is really checking out pedigrees can find his picture all over the web. I would guess that Gator's pic and name are considered an intangible asset and are covered under either copyright or trademark law. Either way your not suppose to use it without written consent.
Let's when if she responds. I dislike people that are unethical and do anything to sell a puppy....I was looking at her puppy prices, my goodness, show dogs don't go for that much.

Mardelin 02-04-2007 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 931720)
Let's when if she responds. I dislike people that are unethical and do anything to sell a puppy....I was looking at her puppy prices, my goodness, show dogs don't go for that much.

She wrote back and told me pretty much the same thing she told Pat. It was there so, that people that had dogs that had Gator in the pedigree could see him.

I informed her she must have written permission from the owner to post in on her website.

Mardelin 02-04-2007 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 931745)
She wrote back and told me pretty much the same thing she told Pat. It was there so, that people that had dogs that had Gator in the pedigree could see him.

I informed her she must have written permission from the owner to post in on her website.
Hurray, she's removing it.

YorkieRose 02-04-2007 05:47 PM
Good for you..she tried to sell me a dog..LOL

lovelilly 02-05-2007 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by CO_yorkie_momma (Post 930521)
I have heard of Magnum Yorkies. I believe she is the daughter to the lady (Shirley Bovay I think her name is )that has Fantasy Yorkies. I have emailed her about her puppies and she replied right away and seemed very nice.

I don't know the daughter but I purchased two yorkies from Shirley a year ago... and I can't say enough about her. A very sweet caring lady... my dogs are in PERFECT health. I have never had a single problem... people stop us all the time to oohh and ahhh over them. Mine are also registered AKC. Shirley still inquires about the puppies and sent us a Christmas card. I live in Colorado so it was quite a trip to go get my little ones... but I don't regret it one bit :D

Mardelin 02-05-2007 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by YorkieRose (Post 932101)
Good for you..she tried to sell me a dog..LOL

Checked this morning and the pic is removed. What was amazing is that I met this lady, Cathy at the Bluebonnet Yorkshire Terrier Specialty in July. I was out in the parking lot structure and she was having trouble getting her lil dog to walk on the lead. I stopped and talked to her and she asked if I'd walk him. How I remembered her from her pic, I haven't a clue....this old memory is not great at this age.

lisatodd 02-05-2007 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by tegamom1 (Post 931217)
I see red flags on all 3 of these web sites. I just feel you would be better off finding a puppy from a reputable breeder. Try going to the YTCA web site. There are good breeders listed there and probably some in your area. Good luck to you in your search.
just an fyi...anyone associated with the ytca can only sell on limited reg. you will not get breeding rights with them. it is part of their code. i know...i just did it a few weeks ago

CO_yorkie_momma 02-05-2007 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by lovelilly (Post 933508)
I don't know the daughter but I purchased two yorkies from Shirley a year ago... and I can't say enough about her. A very sweet caring lady... my dogs are in PERFECT health. I have never had a single problem... people stop us all the time to oohh and ahhh over them. Mine are also registered AKC. Shirley still inquires about the puppies and sent us a Christmas card. I live in Colorado so it was quite a trip to go get my little ones... but I don't regret it one bit :D
When I first started thinking about buying a yorkie, Shirley was one of the first people I emailed. he was very nice to me also. I loved her male Chase.

Mardelin 02-05-2007 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by lisatodd (Post 933542)
just an fyi...anyone associated with the ytca can only sell on limited reg. you will not get breeding rights with them. it is part of their code. i know...i just did it a few weeks ago
Not so, I'm a YTCA member.....How do you think we get show dogs from each other....However, they are very cautious on who they will sell their dogs on full registration to.

YorkieRose 02-05-2007 02:54 PM
breeding
 
You can befriend many club members...prove yourself to be ethical, honest, willing to learn and you will be surprised there it will get you.
There is no rule YTCA members can not sell for breeding.

Mardelin 02-05-2007 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by YorkieRose (Post 934094)
You can befriend many club members...prove yourself to be ethical, honest, willing to learn and you will be surprised there it will get you.
There is no rule YTCA members can not sell for breeding.
Amen Pat.

lisatodd 02-06-2007 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 933553)
Not so, I'm a YTCA member.....How do you think we get show dogs from each other....However, they are very cautious on who they will sell their dogs on full registration to.

well that is sad....i hate to think they all lied to me but this is what i was told so i discontinued with my search with them.

Mardelin 02-06-2007 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by lisatodd (Post 935247)
well that is sad....i hate to think they all lied to me but this is what i was told so i discontinued with my search with them.

I do not think they lied to you. Just to clarify....YTCA members are very, very cautious about placing their dogs with unlimited registration....and most likely it will be with someone that they've known and gained their trust....And the majority breed maybe 1 or 2 litters a year, for themselves, for that next Champion to add to their breeding program. The rest they'll place in approved homes on a spay/nueter contract., or they are spayed or nuetered prior to leaving the breeders home.

lisatodd 02-06-2007 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 935255)
I do not think they lied to you. Just to clarify....YTCA members are very, very cautious about placing their dogs with unlimited registration....and most likely it will be with someone that they've known and gained their trust....And the majority breed maybe 1 or 2 litters a year, for themselves, for that next Champion to add to their breeding program. The rest they'll place in approved homes on a spay/nueter contract., or they are spayed or nuetered prior to leaving the breeders home.
it was the most frustrating thing in the world to try and find a quality yorkie. i was at my wits end. i totally agree with the limited reg and trying to protect their breeding line. believe me, on my search for a yorkie.....i finally realized the overbreeding of them, my gosh....they are everywhere and everyone is doing it. it was very sad to see. i may not be in a show ring but i do want a beauty, quality, and intelligence. after speaking to some ytca members, who told me it was the code of ytca members to have limited reg, that i can respect why they do this. i totally agree and believe what you say. this is all a leaning experience for me. thanks so much.

Mardelin 02-06-2007 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by lisatodd (Post 935324)
it was the most frustrating thing in the world to try and find a quality yorkie. i was at my wits end. i totally agree with the limited reg and trying to protect their breeding line. believe me, on my search for a yorkie.....i finally realized the overbreeding of them, my gosh....they are everywhere and everyone is doing it. it was very sad to see. i may not be in a show ring but i do want a beauty, quality, and intelligence. after speaking to some ytca members, who told me it was the code of ytca members to have limited reg, that i can respect why they do this. i totally agree and believe what you say. this is all a leaning experience for me. thanks so much.
I understand your frustration, don't give up. The only thing to remember, is you are going about your search in the correct manner, however, since many YTCA breeder/exhibitors only breed 1 or 2 litters a year, they do have a very long waiting list and you may not be able to get that yorkie as quickly as you'd like.

This is part of the code: Purchasers will be required to nueter/spay all puppies sold as pets.

YorkieRose 02-06-2007 07:12 AM
selling
 
Members of the National or regional clubs are encouraged to place all pets with limited regs..and spay/neuter contracts. Show/breed potentials are left to the breeder to decide who they will trust. Unless, you actually spent time with breeders, allowing them to get to know you and your goals, you will find most say no..and with good reason. You may know you are ethical, but you only had to read these forums to see what some breeders call ethical, fair and honest...

mmyorkies 02-06-2007 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by lisatodd (Post 935247)
well that is sad....i hate to think they all lied to me but this is what i was told so i discontinued with my search with them.
Who told you this? I am a member of the YTCA and there is no such rule that I am aware of, and I am listed as a breeder. I am very particular who I sell to.

sexiixtc 02-06-2007 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by CO_yorkie_momma (Post 930527)
That is true. I looked at memes and it looks like alot of hers are registered ACA is in my opinion is even worse that the CKC you were talking about before.
what's wrong with CKC?? Kayah is CKC registered.. well not registered as I haven't registered her:rolleyes: But she would be if I had

lisatodd 02-06-2007 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mmyorkies (Post 935816)
Who told you this? I am a member of the YTCA and there is no such rule that I am aware of, and I am listed as a breeder. I am very particular who I sell to.

the virginia breeders who are members

YorkieRose 02-06-2007 03:10 PM
breeders
 
It comes down to getting to know people...takes time.
30 years ago I went up to Johnny Robinson (Trivar) at a show.. he was the YTCA president at the time among other things...I told him I wanted to buy a show quality male and female...he was polite, Morris was not, told he to get out of his way...but I got to know Johnny and with time he sold me stud service and several nice dogs..
I thought buying a dog was no different then going into a car dealership and picking out a new car.."roll em out guys and show me what you got"..LOL

lisatodd 02-06-2007 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by YorkieRose (Post 936333)
It comes down to getting to know people...takes time.
30 years ago I went up to Johnny Robinson (Trivar) at a show.. he was the YTCA president at the time among other things...I told him I wanted to buy a show quality male and female...he was polite, Morris was not, told he to get out of his way...but I got to know Johnny and with time he sold me stud service and several nice dogs..
I thought buying a dog was no different then going into a car dealership and picking out a new car.."roll em out guys and show me what you got"..LOL
how do you get to know them if they are not in your area. they probably have everyone in world trying to get to them, that is probably why i felt so pushed aside

YorkieRose 02-06-2007 03:26 PM
Pm
 
I am PMing you...

bebeyorkie 03-13-2007 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by sexiixtc (Post 935842)
what's wrong with CKC?? Kayah is CKC registered.. well not registered as I haven't registered her:rolleyes: But she would be if I had
I was hoping someone would've answered your question because I was wondering same thing.:( :( :(

lisatodd 03-14-2007 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by bebeyorkie (Post 1003607)
I was hoping someone would've answered your question because I was wondering same thing.:( :( :(

i can tell you this much about ckc....kirby was studding a female who was ckc, he is akc, she wanted her puppies to be registered so i contacted ckc. they had no problems registering him w no information at all. so w ckc, you don't have the background information and also, what if he was not a purebred?????....w ckc you don't know if they are a purebred or not. they don't ck. now akc will NEVER register a dog w/o both parents already being registered.

Hera008 11-02-2008 07:36 AM
CC5star
 
I bought one from CC5star when I was visiting the US, it took me a fortune to bring him back. My puppy is in great health but he is a bit too big than I expected. He is 4 months and one week old, weigh 3 pounds 8 oz, but he is already 9" long (back) and 8" in height, she told me that her pups stop growing early, and the bone structure is not going to be any bigger, I wonder if this is true after reading all the chats here. I should have registered earlier before I bought one back:(! Could any one could tell me that if my puppy is going to be over sized? Thanks very much!

spr377 11-02-2008 07:42 AM
maybe this puppy growth chart will help you. Yorkshire Terrier - Yorkie Puppy Growth/Weight Chart - watch us grow

bchgirl 11-02-2008 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Hera008 (Post 2310410)
I bought one from CC5star when I was visiting the US, it took me a fortune to bring him back. My puppy is in great health but he is a bit too big than I expected. He is 4 months and one week old, weigh 3 pounds 8 oz, but he is already 9" long (back) and 8" in height, she told me that her pups stop growing early, and the bone structure is not going to be any bigger, I wonder if this is true after reading all the chats here. I should have registered earlier before I bought one back:(! Could any one could tell me that if my puppy is going to be over sized? Thanks very much!
I think your puppy still has some growth spurts to go through.


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