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YorkieRose

02-24-2007 06:51 PM

ears

I thought that is what you meant...but maybe you ran across another reason.
You can almost always tell when it is hair, so I would not blame the breeder..it can happen to the best of them...

BamaFan121s

02-24-2007 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRose (Post 972610)

I thought that is what you meant...but maybe you ran across another reason.
You can almost always tell when it is hair, so I would not blame the breeder..it can happen to the best of them...

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scrapindee

02-24-2007 08:59 PM

Some really great info on this thread. I have one of those floppy eared, 12# Yorkies--but she was bought as a pet, not to be bred or shown, and she is one of the most wonderful pets we ever owned.

Ladyhawk

02-25-2007 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by scrapindee (Post 972909)

Some really great info on this thread. I have one of those floppy eared, 12# Yorkies--but she was bought as a pet, not to be bred or shown, and she is one of the most wonderful pets we ever owned.

I had a 12 pound,silver, wavy haired doll once. I will miss him until the day I die, he was a once in a life time. As a breeder I have a responsibility to breed to the standard no matter how much I loved that dog.

TeddyandTiffy

06-09-2007 06:06 PM

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Floppy ears are not to standard. They are a recessive trait so if your bitch has floppy ears it is heterozygous for that trait. Unless the dog that you breed her to is homozygous for erect ears than 2 out of 4 pups would end up with flop ears and the other 2 will carry that recessive gene. Keep it up and yorkies won't look like yorkies at all.

Tami, hello I'm going through and reading all U're past post to see what else I can learn from u! Okay on the ears see I didn't know that!!!!!!! What about Tiffanies, her's is all straight except for her tips...Is that in the gene too? All her puppies from the 1st litter has/is standing up straight. See her photos below Hugs, Lee

SJK1113

06-09-2007 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRose (Post 928881)

You are much too kind...it is a nice start to my day...but if I believed my "press" I would be in a world of trouble..LOL LOL LOL I have learned alot and know alot of people who have learned alot...I can always ask for input from them if need be...so rarely are my posts 100% my opinions, they are backed by many years experince of alot of breeders.. it takes a "village" to breed Yorkies correctly.

I've seen so many of your posts, and you are always so helpful and knowledgable so I'd like to ask you a question. I'm not a breeder and don't plan on breeding, but are the darker colors considered faults? I love some of the darker colored yorkies, although I've seen lighter ones that are beautiful too--to me, they're all beautiful though.:) I just wondered, as I am considering getting a female since I already have a male, and I do love the darker coloring. Thanks in advance, I love learning all this stuff!

Ladyhawk

06-10-2007 03:42 AM

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From the pics it looks like her cartilage may be a bit weak. Does she ever cough if the lead is pulled on? Just make sure that you breed her to a male who has very strong cartilage. Weak cartilage is a prominent problem in our breed and can contribute to luxuating patellas and collapsed trachea so you want to breed away from it.

Ladyhawk

06-10-2007 03:47 AM

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Dark coloring is not considered a fault. The standard calls for dark steel blue and clear golden tan. These are open to interpretation. I consider Connor's blue the perfect dark steel blue where I've had others say that it should be closer to what I consider a charcoal grey. The dark dogs did quite well at the specialty in NY this year. All of my girls are darker because Connor has alot of silvery blue in his line. It's harder to find a black and gold that isn't a cotton coat. It just depends on what you like. I say for a pet, go with what you want.

TeddyandTiffy

06-10-2007 08:48 PM

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No none of my babies ever cough well Teddy does when he laps his water up in his nose. But that's it. So far no problems with my babies. No trachea or luxuating patellas in our lines, I ask both breeder I bought them each from. Hugs, Lee

TeddyandTiffy

06-10-2007 08:55 PM

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Oh and she's only been bread to Teddy my Male I haven't never had any other males with her, I'm to scared to here where we live, I just wouldn't trust anyone! Sorry but I don't. My babies are my life. I am looking for me a smaller breedable (Not under 5 lbs) female Yorkie to breed with Sir. Galahad. But haven't found one yet. I have Tiffanie and she unpregnant is 10 lbs, Teddy is 6 lbs and Sir. Galahad is 6.5 lbs. So maybe I'll get one soon?? I'd like to have one as this litter is finding forever homes so it's not so hard for me to house trian in the Winter, and I have Galahad already housetrained and won't have to be training 2 @ once like I did Teddy and Tiff, now that was hard!!!!! Hugs, Lee

Ladyhawk

06-11-2007 02:47 AM

Yes you'll need a gal that is around 7 lbs. What lines are your dogs out of? What are Galahad's assets and faults? Look for a gal out or a combatible line or the same line who will compliment him. I trained Remi and Cricket at the same time and your right it's not easy. They never stuck together, always ran off in different directions. If there's an accident you don't know who did it. Hard to tell who's getting it and who isn't.

tjdmom

06-11-2007 03:47 AM

Just wanted to say thanks for everyone posting here. I've found a lot of useful and interesting information! :) Theresa

TeddyandTiffy

06-12-2007 02:56 AM

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I'll look up Galahad's grandparents and such today & post that later. What would I be looking for as far as assets & faults? What about when looking for a good new female, what should I look for in her? Please list the goods and bads of babies and puppies. Also I have another question, @ what age should I know if their coat will be silky (Like Tiffanie) or soft coated (Like Teddy)? I was wanting to know out of this litter, I want another soft coated baby like Teddy, I know everyone hates to care for their coats but maybe I'm the odd ball here and love them. See I thought Galahad was gonna have Teddy's coat well he's legs are like Teddy's but the rest of him is like his mom. What would I look for in a puppy growing up (Like Tiffanie's litter coming up.) for Teddy's coat or Tiffanies? Hugs, Lee

Ladyhawk

06-12-2007 03:06 AM

You need to get the illustrated discussion of the yorkshire terrier by the YTCA. It goes through the standard with words and pics. I got mine at the show in NY but if you go on YTCA's website I think you can order it there. Compare Galahad with the standard and write down his faults both major and minor. For example, If he has say wide ear leathers (which are a dominant trait) you'll need to do a test breeding with a gal that has narrow ear leathers. If all the pups end up with wide ear leathers than Galahad would be homozygous for wide ear leathers. If you don't want pups with wide ear leathers you shouldn't breed Galahad because he will only throw wide ear leathers. Breeding is not just throwing 2 dogs together it is a science and a study in genetics. A good book to help you understand the genetics of breeding is The joy of breeding your own show dog by Ann Seranne.

TeddyandTiffy

06-13-2007 10:27 PM

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Oaky here is my Yorkie's lines: I was told that Tiffanie had Show in her line, but couldn't find it in her papers & I contacted Moonlight Kennels and they've never in a year contacted me back so I don't know, think I was lied to! This type of thing is what bothers me when people SELL for money and LIE for it too, I'm honest with people who want my babies! Tiffanie is Galahad's mother and his father is Teddy:
Tiffanie's is:
Sire/Father: Shirelys Tucker Bear

Grandparents/Grandpa: Pwee Wee

Great Grandparents: The Little Royal Radar
Kelsey's Cajuin Queen

Grandparents/Grandma: Karrs Ginny

Great Grandparents: Mister Yodie
Ginny's Little Lacy

Dam/Mother: Shivelys Sassy Girl

Grandparents/Grandpa: Moonlight Rhapsody In Blue

Great Grandparents:Mitchell's Ace
Moonlight Pandemonium

Grandparents/Grandma:Paradise's Phylis

Great Grandparents:Tiger's Devin
Zookie

Teddy's is:
Sire/Father:Dawns Ravishing Romeo
(Don't ask me where that :D come from in the place of the D in Dawns I have NO idea!!!!!)
Grandparents/Grandpa:Shady Grove's Southern Sneak

Great Grandparents: Ch Marcris Reebok Of Veneridge
Shady Groves Southern Breeze

Grandparents/Grandma:Buttercup's Mystic Treasure

Grandparents/Grandpa: Kathys Buster
Yorkfield Louann

Dam/Mother:Trixie Is A Treat

Grandparents/Grandpa:Kamel's Royal Razz-My-Tazz

Great Grandparents: Red Neck Brutus Ingram
Teeka Marie Ingram

Grandparents/Grandma:Golden Girl Moxy
Grandparents/Grandpa:Harts' Tiny Mighty Mouse
Harts' Bo-Peep
I think I have that right??
Here are some photos I took up close of Galahad, Let me know what U or other Breeders here think his Assets or Faults are? He's 13.5 months old. 6 lbs 6.2 oz. (I think I don't have the paper right here.) I would like to learn from him and try to breed to the best of the breed like U all do. But I need to know what to look for in a Yorkie. I went to the YTCA and printed all the info. off there to help me. What about his ears? His coat color, (I cut it to get it to grow out again, I wanted to see if it was gonna be silky like Tiffanies or Cotton like Teddys) What about his legs I think they might be cotton but can that be tamed? Or would that be considered a fault? I want honesty (Even if it hurts! LOL!, U know we all think our babies are the best but the truth is sometimes when it comes to the STANDARDS they really truthfully are not!!) Is his tail docked to short? Should I have this litter's tails a little longer? His eyes? His coat color? His Legs? His Height? I don't know U tell me. Please I truely want to learn. U know U said I might get the show bug, well I think I've got the better to breed to the standards bug, which is good. I want to do our breed justice and make them proud, which I am proud of my Yorkie's even tho they may not be up to standards. But I am learning so much here and this is what I yearn for to know what to look for, what is right, what is wrong. Thanks so much for ALL U're help and ALL the others help in Advance. Hugs, Lee and Babies

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