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Amber_lv 02-01-2007 10:17 PM
Help Breeding With An Lp?
 
Just had a question my friends yorkie who i was going to breed Peeka with(still not sure about) Has a lp grade 1-2 in her left knee i called and asked my vet what he thought and he said she could still grow out of it or it could tighten up. It doesn't seem to bother her at all. But my question is can she breed her and will she be ok like her puppies? I don't really know anything about it and i don't know what to tell her. She wants to breed her but not just with Peeka. I really don't think i will breed Peeka with her but her breeding friend says that a 1-2 is acceptable to breed so i am asking you experts what you think. I have also heard that show people say it's ok to breed with a 1-2 is this true? Please any advice would be great i just feel bad for her she is really upset this dog came from a really nice pedigree all show dogs so i really wonder what is going on.

Amber_lv 02-01-2007 10:43 PM
Anyone?

LuvMySissy 02-02-2007 04:15 AM
I am not a breeder, but it is my understanding that LP is considered a genetic defect. Not life-threatening as liver shunt is, but a defect anyway. Once identified, pups with it should not be bred, nor should the parents be bred again once a pup of their offspring is identified with LP.

YorkieRose 02-02-2007 04:20 AM
Lp
 
You are going to be hard pressed to find a line of Yorkies with perfect knees..this is still minor..wait until breeding time and if it's not worse it is acceptable. Breed to a LP free male.

Timmy 02-02-2007 05:17 AM
I know nothing about breeding but my girl has LP. I just couldn't imagine putting her through that. I can imagine the extra weight would hurt her knees. I don't know JMO.

Amber_lv 02-02-2007 07:13 AM
Thanks guys i just didn't know what to tell her i'm still looking at info that i can give her. i really appreciate it

Amber_lv 02-02-2007 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by YorkieRose (Post 926699)
You are going to be hard pressed to find a line of Yorkies with perfect knees..this is still minor..wait until breeding time and if it's not worse it is acceptable. Breed to a LP free male.
so would her offspring have LP as well. she called the breeder she got her from and they said neither of the parents have LP and she was the only pup in the litter.

daisy mae06 02-02-2007 07:16 AM
just wanted to give you my love amber how is your ankel? Any say best wises to your friend....

Amber_lv 02-02-2007 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by daisy mae06 (Post 926954)
just wanted to give you my love amber how is your ankel? Any say best wises to your friend....
Aww thanks i am doing better. I know i feel bad for her i just don't have any answers for her as i haven't ever experianced it. She does have a friend that breeds but i trust you guys so i would rather ask here. If i decieded to breed Peeka to her(still not sure) i don't want to be unethical ya know.

daisy mae06 02-02-2007 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Amber_lv (Post 926967)
Aww thanks i am doing better. I know i feel bad for her i just don't have any answers for her as i haven't ever experianced it. She does have a friend that breeds but i trust you guys so i would rather ask here. If i decieded to breed Peeka to her(still not sure) i don't want to be unethical ya know.
Well I say And I am not the expert at all Just get all the test done one both Dogs to make sure all is good. and Peeka is a sweet heart.

doortego 02-02-2007 07:51 AM
Seems unfair to the mom, pups & potential owners to me. :confused:

yorkiegirl2 02-02-2007 09:04 AM
I would think it was more on the genetic side if it was in both knees.
If the dog does alot of jumping off things, it could have caused injury to the knee.
Have your friend to keep her from jumping and see if the knee will tighten up.
Have it checked again... closer to breeding time.

Amber_lv 02-02-2007 09:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by yorkiegirl2 (Post 927241)
I would think it was more on the genetic side if it was in both knees.
If the dog does alot of jumping off things, it could have caused injury to the knee.
Have your friend to keep her from jumping and see if the knee will tighten up.
Have it checked again... closer to breeding time.
It's more in the left knee. Thats what her vet told her to, just to keep her from jumping around a lot

Amber_lv 02-02-2007 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by doortego (Post 927046)
Seems unfair to the mom, pups & potential owners to me. :confused:
That's why i am asking here i want to give her the best info i can so she can make a good decision. It's not my choice what she does but i would like to inform her with as much info as i can.

YorkieRose 02-02-2007 01:02 PM
breeding
 
If it is a 1..that can be from jumping alot...if both parents have sound knees and she is bred to a sound male, the percent is very low..but vets say surgery is not needed until 3 or 4..and if they are limping and having problems.

CO_yorkie_momma 02-02-2007 09:19 PM
That is a good question Amber. When I took my puppies in to have them checked before I sent them to their new homes I asked my vet about LP and he told me that many toy breeds have a tiny bit of movement in their knees and like Yorkie Rose stated you would be hard pressed to find one that didnt have any. I would just tell her to keep and eye on her and not let her do any jumping and see how she does or if it gets any worse than a 1-2. If it does I dont think I would breed Peeka to her because that may hurt your name if she produces LP in her puppies even tho Peeka didnt contribute to it. JMO

teffiemoore 02-03-2007 10:37 AM
I can tell you what two of our Vets told us about Luxating Patellas....That they can tighten up..it is a minor flaw...its suggested that its genetic, but not proven , is a familiar problem with toy breeds and if its the bitch that has it and not severe enough grade to produce a hardship on her with the weight of a preg. breed her to a stud that doesn't have LP.... They weren't real concerned with it being a prob. I trust their advice, especially both and they are at separate clinics:)


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