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myittybitties 01-25-2007 03:14 PM
Was I wrong to say no?
 
Ok so here is the deal. I had a lady ask me to breed my Daisy with her male when a friend of mine told her she (Daisy) was in heat again. Now here is where I said no and why:
Her male is a BEAUTIFUL SHOW DOG, however he is 12 years old! I talked it over with my vet because I was very uncomfortable with his age. My vet told me my feelings were right on that you should not breed a small breed dog after 7 and your pushing it at 8 years of age.
When I told the lady no she got furious at me and told me all she wants is one healthy pup of his off spring out of the litter and she will pay to put the rest down!
I could not believe what I was hearing from her! I would not want to put a pups life in danger let alone my Daisy knowing the risk involved in her breeding with my Max, let alone anyone elses dog!
So what is y'alls take on the age in breeding? what age do you stop breeding your males, and why? My folks stopped breeding thier males after 7 years old. thanks for letting me talk it out here!

chachi 01-25-2007 03:19 PM
Did I read that correctly? Did you say she would pay to put the rest of the pups to sleep after she got her one?

SweetCuteness 01-25-2007 03:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chachi (Post 912253)
Did I read that correctly? Did you say she would pay to put the rest of the pups to sleep after she got her one?
That's just ridiculous and wrong on so many levels! I can't believe someone would even devise a plan like that let alone try to act it out! I don't care how badly you want a pup - you don't breed pups with the plan to end their life right after they're born!!! :mad:

Oscar's Mummy 01-25-2007 03:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chachi (Post 912253)
Did I read that correctly? Did you say she would pay to put the rest of the pups to sleep after she got her one?
Holy crap - that was what I was thinking. Forget the fact that she wants to breed her 12 yr old male - what about the fact that she would pay to put the rest to sleep??? I don't even know what to say about that!! Holy crap!

daisy mae06 01-25-2007 03:24 PM
OMG that has no manners at all. how dare she! I think I would have said more than NO to her. GOOD for you:thumbup:

SweetCuteness 01-25-2007 03:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by myittybitties (Post 912242)
Ok so here is the deal. I had a lady ask me to breed my Daisy with her male when a friend of mine told her she (Daisy) was in heat again. Now here is where I said no and why:
Her male is a BEAUTIFUL SHOW DOG, however he is 12 years old! I talked it over with my vet because I was very uncomfortable with his age. My vet told me my feelings were right on that you should not breed a small breed dog after 7 and your pushing it at 8 years of age.
When I told the lady no she got furious at me and told me all she wants is one healthy pup of his off spring out of the litter and she will pay to put the rest down!
I could not believe what I was hearing from her! I would not want to put a pups life in danger let alone my Daisy knowing the risk involved in her breeding with my Max, let alone anyone elses dog!
So what is y'alls take on the age in breeding? what age do you stop breeding your males, and why? My folks stopped breeding thier males after 7 years old. thanks for letting me talk it out here!

And I'm not a breeder, but to answer your question, NO I don't think you were wrong at all to tell her know. Your first concern should be the health of your girl, then the health of your girl's pups... and no where in your list of concerns would be her desire to have an offspring of her male.

red98vett 01-25-2007 03:28 PM
wow...the things people say when they're mad :( :( I would stay way away from that woman if I were you. HER wants are taking precedence over common sense and decency ...what a horrible thing for her to say to you - and good for you walking away

Mardelin 01-25-2007 03:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by myittybitties (Post 912242)
Ok so here is the deal. I had a lady ask me to breed my Daisy with her male when a friend of mine told her she (Daisy) was in heat again. Now here is where I said no and why:
Her male is a BEAUTIFUL SHOW DOG, however he is 12 years old! I talked it over with my vet because I was very uncomfortable with his age. My vet told me my feelings were right on that you should not breed a small breed dog after 7 and your pushing it at 8 years of age.
When I told the lady no she got furious at me and told me all she wants is one healthy pup of his off spring out of the litter and she will pay to put the rest down!
I could not believe what I was hearing from her! I would not want to put a pups life in danger let alone my Daisy knowing the risk involved in her breeding with my Max, let alone anyone elses dog!
So what is y'alls take on the age in breeding? what age do you stop breeding your males, and why? My folks stopped breeding thier males after 7 years old. thanks for letting me talk it out here!
You weren't wrong....AKC says 12 years of age on a male but, it is pushing it. After that you must have a vet witness the breeding.

But, the lady's attitude would have been enough to turn me off. So, cold.....

She's your girl and you have the right to say no....after all you didn't go to her to useher stud.

Peters 01-25-2007 03:52 PM
sounds like she needs to be put down i would have told her that seriuosly! who in their right mind would want to breed a dog so old and kill his pups? what a sicko she shouldn't be privilaged enough to even own a yorkie!

Susan123 01-25-2007 05:00 PM
WOW! That lady has problems. You made a good call to say the least.

myittybitties 01-25-2007 05:10 PM
Ok I was thinking I did the right thing I just wanted to make sure.

THAT IS WHY I LOVE YOU GUYS!!!!!

luvdorkyyorkies 01-25-2007 05:20 PM
Yes you did the right thing.
But dont lie. Ever.
Not even on a bet.
:)
I mean never.
:p :p

ButterflyYorkie 01-25-2007 05:23 PM
She suggested putting the rest of the litter down to obtain one pup for herself? Wow! IMO someone like that doesn't need to be "in dogs". That's just crazy.

baby03 01-25-2007 05:32 PM
Unbelievable!:eek:

scrapindee 01-25-2007 07:19 PM
The Biewer breeders stop breeding males generally around 7 years of age.

Wrenee4 01-25-2007 07:52 PM
Wow that is HORRIBLE! That is sooo horrible for a person to say let alone really want to do! Who could anyone put a little furbaby down for a reason like that??!!!! You for SURE did the right thing!!!
As for breeding, AKC would allow it BUT the sperm count is usually very low or nonexistant on a dog of that age.

jp4m2 01-26-2007 07:10 AM
Please:rolleyes: This woman my have been a bit desperate to have off-spring
from her male, but,she clearly waited to long. Bad planning on her part does not make it your problem..........after you told her no & you received that response about putting the remainder of the pups down should have clearly reinforced you that you made the right decision:thumbup:....... Don't second guess your self..
be proud you stood firm & did the right thing :)

BamaFan121s 01-26-2007 07:18 AM
I don't think you are wrong one bit for declining her offer. I would actually be shocked if you excepted! I can't believe the nerve of her!:mad: :thumbdown

lisatodd 01-26-2007 07:36 AM
how do you know this woman?..did she just come up to you and ask you? wow...unbelievable!!!

bdbmamaw 01-26-2007 07:44 AM
You did the right thing, girl! :thumbup:

The sad thing is.... she'll probably find someone else who doesn't know any better.... :thumbdown

ehunney 01-26-2007 07:48 AM
You most def. did the right thing. Is this woman insane?:eek: She was going to put the rest of the puppies down.............why? I'm so glad you said no, this woman sounds unstable:thumbdown

SweetCuteness 01-26-2007 10:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ehunney (Post 913337)
You most def. did the right thing. Is this woman insane?:eek: She was going to put the rest of the puppies down.............why? I'm so glad you said no, this woman sounds unstable:thumbdown
LOL, YES she does!!!

Chelsey 01-26-2007 12:43 PM
Sounds like that woman is ready to be "rehomed" she should be in an institution :eek:

ARCHIE 01-26-2007 01:30 PM
I know nothing about breeding.
Other than being insane, why would she offer to put the rest down?
Would there be something wrong with them due to the male's age?

What kind of breeder, show person is she? The thought of such a thing
can only come from someone who has no feelings for life!

You sure did the right thing. Who would want to get involved with this
kind of phsyco!

Carol & Buddy

livingdustmops 01-28-2007 10:27 AM
You say she is a showbreeder - do you know what registery, AKC, CKC, etc? If so I would at least turn her in there and if she belongs to a breed club I would also report her. You could also report her to your animal control or humane society.

mustangbee 01-28-2007 04:27 PM
Oh you did the right thing!!!;) ;)
Good for you!:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:


What a nut!! I feel sorry for her furbaby!!!!!!!:thumbdown :thumbdown
I agree with livingdustmops, I would turn her butt in!
And she's a show breeder:eek: :eek: :eek:
More like a show breeder want-a-be!!! Shame on her!

LunasMomma 01-28-2007 04:45 PM
HOLY *INSERT EVERY CURSE WORD I'VE EVER LEARNED HERE*:eek:

I usually don't have a lot to contribute on this section of the board, but OMG I could not read this without letting the above out:mad: How DARE she?!?!

WOW!!!!

mojo 01-28-2007 09:16 PM
I'm not being rude, but I don't get what it is your questioning yourself about?
Clearly you did the right thing.
First of all, as if any vet would put perfectly health newborn pups down for any reason...please!! Sure, they go to school for 7 years so they can learn how to put down newborn puppies.
2nd, with the attitude she had where she acted like you owed her something; what if something didn't go according to how she wanted; imagine what a frickin psycho nutjob she would be then.....yikes!
You did the right thing and I dont think you should give it a second thought. Steer clear of that woman!


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