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topknot 06-08-2010 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by YorkieRose (Post 3155433)
I know many new posters must think we are all snobbish about newbies breeding...but when you love a breed so much you want to do all possible to keep it from being destroyed.
Yorkies were number 14 on the AKC list when I started...they are now number 2...I would love to see the Yorkie become 15 again and 25 would make crazy happy!!!...the breed needs protection, it is being bred with anything and everything...
So true! I remember as a little girl the same thing happened to the toy poodle. Everyone in the world was breeding them and the quality of them started to go downhill and they ended up with some real problems. I do not want this to happen to the yorkies, but it is on its way. So sad.

Ladyhawk 06-10-2010 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by topknot (Post 3155846)
So true! I remember as a little girl the same thing happened to the toy poodle. Everyone in the world was breeding them and the quality of them started to go downhill and they ended up with some real problems. I do not want this to happen to the yorkies, but it is on its way. So sad.
It's the same story for the Cocker Spaniels in the 60's.

Marilize 06-14-2010 02:11 AM
I agree completely that the quality of Yorkies are declining greatly! That's why we are starting a club in South Africa. The quality is terrible here!

With regards to studding, I wouldn't use a stud who hasn't been shown in the show ring. It is paramount that you breed with the best available and if you can choose a stud, why not pay a little extra and go for a champ?

Responsible champion-stud owners also won't let their studs be bred with just any bitch and they should study the bitch's pedigree to determine compatibility. Chances are that if a champ owner won't allow their champ to be bred to a bitch, that bitch isn't standard, isn't healthy or isn't compatible with regards to genetics.

I think that if you are considering studding your dog, you need to get him involved in the show ring first to ensure that he is a good representation of the breed. I'd only stud him out if he is a champion, but that's just me.

topknot 06-14-2010 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Marilize (Post 3162200)
I agree completely that the quality of Yorkies are declining greatly! That's why we are starting a club in South Africa. The quality is terrible here!

With regards to studding, I wouldn't use a stud who hasn't been shown in the show ring. It is paramount that you breed with the best available and if you can choose a stud, why not pay a little extra and go for a champ?

Responsible champion-stud owners also won't let their studs be bred with just any bitch and they should study the bitch's pedigree to determine compatibility. Chances are that if a champ owner won't allow their champ to be bred to a bitch, that bitch isn't standard, isn't healthy or isn't compatible with regards to genetics.

I think that if you are considering studding your dog, you need to get him involved in the show ring first to ensure that he is a good representation of the breed. I'd only stud him out if he is a champion, but that's just me.
:thumbup::thumbup:I totally agree! I hear a lot of people say, "Well, I only want a pet, not a show dog!" This is so stupid! When breeding - you should be only breeding the best to the best quality. I have either paid a lot to make sure I was breeding the best, or have traveled even to another state for a breeding. When breeding - the breeder is totally responsible for the quality of pups they bring into the world. Why not do it correctly and breed to top standards and not settle for the less just to get pups. By showing your dogs, you are taking the time and money to make sure you are doing all you can to make sure the quality is there. Plus you actually may just have some fun in the process. Shows can be a lot of fun and a feeling of acomplishment too. :D


P.S. Most people I know will only breed to a champion stud.

Nice post Marilize!

gemy 05-01-2014 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Sheri_Green (Post 4429735)
I am looking to stud out my 2 males and i was wondering how I should go about doing it the proper way?
I think the posts above make it pretty clear, also I emphasize doing all the health testing specific to this breed on your two males.

I would never breed any champion bitch of mine to a stud that is not a champion and has not passed all the health tests, and that is just a starter.

Sheri_Green 05-01-2014 11:41 AM
studding my yorkies
 
Well apparently I came to the wrong site because it sounds to me the only thing you care about is how much your babies will make you and I say babies because that's what they are not bitches. Also when people refer to their animals as a pet it meaning is that they are a part of the family not a money making scheme. I want to thank everyone of you by making me feel so welcome and offering such wonderful advice that would actually help me out. I hope everyone has a good day and I pray for your babies that they have a life filled with love and happiness.

Sheri_Green 05-01-2014 11:47 AM
You talk about a yorkies being bred with anything mine are not I got my female and make.from the same breeder but different parents and both of them are AKC registered. So when someone asks you a question it would be helpful to actually answer the question respectfully.

Rhetts_mama 05-01-2014 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Sheri_Green (Post 4430042)
Well apparently I came to the wrong site because it sounds to me the only thing you care about is how much your babies will make you and I say babies because that's what they are not bitches. Also when people refer to their animals as a pet it meaning is that they are a part of the family not a money making scheme. I want to thank everyone of you by making me feel so welcome and offering such wonderful advice that would actually help me out. I hope everyone has a good day and I pray for your babies that they have a life filled with love and happiness.

Where did Gemy allude to money? I don't see it. What she did tell you is that she would never breed any old dog because that is the antithesis of breeding to improve the breed. The purpose of achieving a CH on a dog is to attain approval for a breeding program. A great breeder is looking to breed not only the healthiest of dogs, but the ones that best represent the breed standard. Just because a dog is registered with the AKC doesn't make them a good candidate for breeding.

As for the term bitch and stud (or dam and sire), those are the proper terms to use when referring to breeding.

Sheri_Green 05-01-2014 12:03 PM
Ok, Bella and C.J. have already had a litter that's where little Bill came from and they had 3 beautiful and healthy pups. I just felt like I was getting attacked instead of advice.

yorkietalkjilly 05-01-2014 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by gemy (Post 4430027)
I think the posts above make it pretty clear, also I emphasize doing all the health testing specific to this breed on your two males.

I would never breed any champion bitch of mine to a stud that is not a champion and has not passed all the health tests, and that is just a starter.
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Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama (Post 4430044)
Where did Gemy allude to money? I don't see it. What she did tell you is that she would never breed any old dog because that is the antithesis of breeding to improve the breed. The purpose of achieving a CH on a dog is to attain approval for a breeding program. A great breeder is looking to breed not only the healthiest of dogs, but the ones that best represent the breed standard. Just because a dog is registered with the AKC doesn't make them a good candidate for breeding.

As for the term bitch and stud (or dam and sire), those are the proper terms to use when referring to breeding.
Couldn't agree more with each of you. Health and temperament matter the most. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

Rhetts_mama 05-01-2014 12:06 PM
What she told you to do was read the entire thread. There was excellent information already presented in it from very experienced and respected breeders. I don't see how that could be interpreted as attacking. {Shrug}

Sheri_Green 05-01-2014 12:07 PM
Well we must be reading different threads.

Rhetts_mama 05-01-2014 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Sheri_Green (Post 4430061)
Well we must be reading different threads.
We must be.

Sheri_Green 05-01-2014 12:11 PM
As far as their health I just spent 1200 at the vet for their health.

Sheri_Green 05-01-2014 12:13 PM
Sorry to have bothered everyone, I hope everyone has a good day.


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