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Sugar's Mom 02-20-2006 11:57 AM
Legs too long to breed?
 
I think Ceeby's legs are too long and he was supposed to be my first little stud. I don't want to have bad traits. I will keep him even if they are because he is my "baby". he will be seven months old in a couple of days and since he was about five months old, it seems to me like his legs are really, really too long. In fact, his new nickname is 'daddy longlegs". We measured him and he is the 9x9 you guys talk about but the biggest part of him is his long legs. How ong should they be and is there a way to just measure the legs? Is this just a gangly looking phase all yorkies go thru? When I look at pictures of everyone's pups that are the same age as him, they all look just like him with the silver head, scraggly hair and thin body. i am disappointed in his looks. Thanks

bugaboosmom 02-20-2006 01:25 PM
You might want to wait until he is at least 1yr. Then make your decision. No Stud dog is perfect, but you might want to try and breed only those who have traits the closest to the breed standard. :thumbup:

Baron 02-20-2006 01:31 PM
He should be as long from the base of his neck to the tail as he is tall from the floor to the top of his back. If he is the same, then his legs are not too long for his body. They are supposed to be square shaped.

txshopper73 02-20-2006 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Baron
He should be as long from the base of his neck to the tail as he is tall from the floor to the top of his back. If he is the same, then his legs are not too long for his body. They are supposed to be square shaped.
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: Plus, once the hair grows out, they won't seem so leggy.

feminvstr 02-20-2006 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom
I think Ceeby's legs are too long and he was supposed to be my first little stud. I don't want to have bad traits. I will keep him even if they are because he is my "baby". he will be seven months old in a couple of days and since he was about five months old, it seems to me like his legs are really, really too long. In fact, his new nickname is 'daddy longlegs". We measured him and he is the 9x9 you guys talk about but the biggest part of him is his long legs. How ong should they be and is there a way to just measure the legs? Is this just a gangly looking phase all yorkies go thru? When I look at pictures of everyone's pups that are the same age as him, they all look just like him with the silver head, scraggly hair and thin body. i am disappointed in his looks. Thanks
9 x 9 is in proportion so you have nothing to worry about. Just to make sure you measured correctly put him into a stack position, measure from his top line to the floor (that would determine leg length) then the back of the neck to the bum, to balance properly he should have a longer rather than shorter neck. I actually prefer leg.

YorkieRose 02-20-2006 01:46 PM
legs
 
He is square..and it is good to have a bit of leg on a stud..I like good length of leg..squatty is cute in small pet, but elegance and leg looks great in the ring.

Sugar's Mom 02-20-2006 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by bugaboosmom
You might want to wait until he is at least 1yr. Then make your decision. No Stud dog is perfect, but you might want to try and breed only those who have traits the closest to the breed standard. :thumbup:
i wasn't planning to breed him until he is at least a year anyway. I am going to "hire' Silk a stud when she comes in. My new little girl is only 12 weeks so it will be a LONGGGG time before she is ready and I was hoping to breed Ceeby to her.

Sugar's Mom 02-20-2006 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by YorkieRose
He is square..and it is good to have a bit of leg on a stud..I like good length of leg..squatty is cute in small pet, but elegance and leg looks great in the ring.
I can see where the long legs would be good on a stud. You ought to have seen him and his long legs trying to hump Silk the other day. hence, the name, daddy longlegs

Sugar's Mom 02-20-2006 02:54 PM
Hair
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by txshopper73
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: Plus, once the hair grows out, they won't seem so leggy.
That's kind of what I thought. His hair is growing but not long enough yet to cover those legs. I guess that will take a while. His hair isn't growing fast at all. I am too impatient. I want to see how pretty my little guy is going to be. he is so sweet.

She-ra's Mama 02-20-2006 02:55 PM
That is how Harley is!! :p With She-Ra he has no problem, she is a little shorter than him, but when he tried to bred with a friend's dog, he was too short!! I felt so sorry for him!! Kinda like the short guy dating the tall girl!!


Is that him in your avatar?? He doesn't look leggy at all!

Sugar's Mom 02-20-2006 02:58 PM
Stacked.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by feminvstr
9 x 9 is in proportion so you have nothing to worry about. Just to make sure you measured correctly put him into a stack position, measure from his top line to the floor (that would determine leg length) then the back of the neck to the bum, to balance properly he should have a longer rather than shorter neck. I actually prefer leg.
my husband is the expert stacker in this house. I think we had Ceeby stacked about as well as we are going to get a wiggly pup. Seems like the older he gets, the wilder he gets.

Sugar's Mom 02-20-2006 03:00 PM
thanks everyone
 
I have just been sitting here posting away and responding to you all and just now realized I hadn't said thank you to anyone. So, the sole purpose of this post is to give everyone a great big thanks for all your answers about my daddy LongLegs.

YorkieShadow 02-20-2006 03:49 PM
My Mickey is 9 long and 8 1/2----9 tall and weighs 4-5 lbs very square.
My Minnie is 10 long and 81/2---9 tall and seems wider weighs 5lb 6 oz the at the vets. when they breed they had no problem.

fl24019 02-21-2006 10:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by feminvstr
9 x 9 is in proportion so you have nothing to worry about. Just to make sure you measured correctly put him into a stack position, measure from his top line to the floor (that would determine leg length) then the back of the neck to the bum, to balance properly he should have a longer rather than shorter neck. I actually prefer leg.
??

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I thought you measured body length from the sternum to the hip bone and height from the floor to the tallest point of the withers.

feminvstr 02-21-2006 11:29 AM
getting technical or absolute it should be; height (floor to wither, and floor to elbow), and length (withers to tailset, point of shoulder to end of buttocks.

fl24019 02-21-2006 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by feminvstr
getting technical or absolute it should be; height (floor to wither, and floor to elbow), and length (withers to tailset, point of shoulder to end of buttocks.
Body length is measured from the sternum to hip bone.

yorkiemom1970 02-21-2006 01:00 PM
Why would you stop at the hip bone? Body length doesn't stop there :confused:

Very curious?? Thanks.

fl24019 02-21-2006 01:07 PM
http://www.sonic.net/~cdlcruz/GPCC/library/measure.htm

There's a diagram on this site. You measure length from the sternum or breast bone to the "point of the hip" or the end of the hip bone.

I think some people are confusing how to measure for clothes with how to measure for height to length ratio.

feminvstr 02-21-2006 01:40 PM
It can often be a fault for particular breeds to be shorter or taller than the standard requires. For this reason, owners need to measure their dogs to see where the dogs "fit" according to the standard?

How to measure the size of your dog.

Height is measured from a point horizontal with the withers straight down to the ground

Length is measured from point of a shoulder to point of rump

http://www.triplecrownkennel.com/danatomy.html

fl24019 02-21-2006 02:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by feminvstr
It can often be a fault for particular breeds to be shorter or taller than the standard requires. For this reason, owners need to measure their dogs to see where the dogs "fit" according to the standard?

How to measure the size of your dog.

Height is measured from a point horizontal with the withers straight down to the ground

Length is measured from point of a shoulder to point of rump

http://www.triplecrownkennel.com/danatomy.html
http://www.akc.org/about/glossary.cf...RCH_BUTTON.Y=9

Body length Distance from the prosternum (front portion of the breastbone) to the posterior portion of the pelvic girdle

fl24019 02-22-2006 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by yorkiemom1970
Why would you stop at the hip bone? Body length doesn't stop there :confused:

Very curious?? Thanks.
Actually, if you look at the diagram, the body does stop there. Nothing behind that but tail.

When a breed standard calls for or suggests a square body, they're talking about body length measured in the way I suggest. The standards are AKC standards and the body length is measured according to the AKC definition.

Glad we got a chance to talk about this.


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