This is a moot point, but I think it may have been in your best interest to have everything in written in some kind of contract.This way you know what the breeder is providing etc. Was there some kind of contract written when you left the desposit such as....what you were buying, what happened to the deposit if you backed out or the seller did....etc.etc.

In hindsight, I wish that I had. She said that she put in her "ad" here on YT that deposits are non refundable and that she was only providing shots up to 6 weeks. I have that saved to my computer, and it doesn't say that. The next puppy I get, I am going to be patient and wait to find a breeder that is experienced and can pay for all at once so that there is no confusion on what I am supposed to pay and won't have to have her hold him/her for me.

Just curious. Have you visited this pup and gal in person? Or was the pup to be shipped? I think before I gave up my $350 I would try to talk to this gal in person and see this pup. And then go from there.

I have seen the puppy several times.

OK, Lets hear both sides of the story.
1) We have already gotten the pups first set of shots.
2) We have already been deworming the pups since the pups were about a week - week 1/2 old, per the Vets orders.
3) We have been working with you on the payment of the pup...YOU HAVE NOT PAID $900 FOR THE DOG YET. You haven't even paid 1/2 of that yet. So do not question us what we did with the money that you have given us to date, that was a deposit for us to hold the dog for you. If I would have known you were going to pull this, I would have made Amanda sell the dog out from under you....but we held out for you....like a GOOD person is supposed to. Further more, do not question what we did with the money that you have paid us up to this point. We held out with the belief that you were good for the money.

The breeders that I have encountered in our area release the dogs at 6 weeks, basically shortly after the dogs are able to eat food on their own and the Vet Ok'd the pups to be released from the mothers care.

We have been patient with you about the money, basically b/c we thought you were a friend, but you pull this crap today, totally flipping out and backing out of the deal.

You bought the dog knowing that there were responsiblities that YOU were going to have to deal w/...

Amanda agreed to get the 2nd set of shots done, but not the 2nd round of dewormer.

Amanda also has been wanting to give you the pup early - before we got the rest of the money - as a gesture of FRIENDSHIP. I'm glad I talked her out of that....or we would be out over 1/2 of the price of the pup.

A Health Guarantee? WTF? You have seen the pup. You have held the pup. H3ll...the pup has spent several days at your house....What type of other guarantee do you want? Life insurance on the dog? Give me a break.

I'm stepping of my soap box now. Mods, Please LOCK this thread.

Joy...PM amanda or me or call us before you come on here crying your crap.

Wow...

I'm speechless... :shocked7q :shocked7q :shocked7q

Whoa!! That was from Peacekeeper? :confused:
I don't think I want to be apart of this thread. :eek:

UH UHHH no she didn't!!! Wow I definetly wouldn't want to buy a dog from you. Just nasty!! AND YES YOU SHOULD HAVE A HEALTH GUARANTEE. Just because she saw the dog and spent time with it doesn't mean the dog won't croak after she's had it for a month or two and if it does then what she'll just be azzed out huh?? I think that is really UGLY!!! I'm glad she backed out. She was being smart!!

Joy take your cash and get you a puppie from a reputable breeder who can supply references and give you A FREAKIN HEALTH GUARANTEE!!

So..........If you have a baby. You take the baby home from the hospital. The baby is healthy. Suddenly the baby gets sick and dies....Is the Hospital/Doctor to blame for this? NO.

Are we to blame if the dog dies 1 day after the owner takes the dog? Are we to blame if the dog dies 4 weeks after the owner get the dog? No.

We didn't offer a Guarantee from the begining and Joy agreed to this.

Do not make us out to be "bad" breeders...We are not hiding anything. We are not being deceitful in the deal that Amanda and Joy had.

We got the 1st set of shots. We got a round of dewormer for the pups. We agreed to get the second set of shots because it is time for it. Amanda didn't agree to get the 2nd round of dewormer because we are still on the 1st dosage of the dewormer. The second round is a different process. The Vet has to administer the 2nd round and the cost is significantly more expensive than the 1st.

Don't start throwing words like "nasty" and "ugly" to people you don't know.

I cannot believe my eyes!!!

If breeders are releasing their pups (yorkie pups) at 6 weeks and you're following their advice, perhaps you need to find different breeders to look up to.

Pups generally are not paid for in full until the pup is delivered. At this point in time, this pup should not be paid for -- it should not be paid for until another few weeks -- 12 weeks!

If a breeder has the pup in their possession on the day a set of shots or dewormer is due, the breeder is still the owner -- they have the dog in their hands . . . it is their responsibility!

Even though Joy has held this pup, she is not a vet and has no degree. She has no way of knowing whether this pup has a congenital disease/defect. This is a cowards way of saying "I am an irresponsible breeder."

Joy -- RUN . . . RUN . . . RUN . . . as fast as you can! $350 in the hole is a lot better than having a long term commitment to this breeder. This is someone in it for the money, obviously!

I have NEVER seen a pup advertised saying that the price was contingent on the number of shots or the amount of deworming that had been done. That is just ludicrous!!!

Yeah your a MAN!
 

Babies don't just get sick and die for one. There has to be a birth defect that most likely the mother knows about before the baby is even born (Modern Technology is a motha) or the baby will die from SIDS. Anywho That is YOUR BABY though nobody else gave birth to her so whatever birth defects that baby may have or illness it acquires you need to deal with because your not giving that baby away like you are with your puppies. So yes you should be held accountable within a respectable amount of time if something goes wrong with that puppy because YOU bred them.

If she agreeded on taking the puppy without the health guarantee then that was her mistake because she may not have educated herself on the purchase of a puppy...BUT JMO I think your definetly taking advantage of her not being aware. I think you just don't want to have to come out of your pocket for the extra expenses so that's why your giving her the dog at 9wks and to charge her $900 (yeah OK). Not saying your a Bad breeder but I just wouldn't buy from you.

Okay look- whether I need to look up to diff. breeders is a totally diff. story. I will look into that. Point is I did let them go at 6 weeks...The other owners were fine with it and the pups are doing great. I am still in contact with them both. I am not a bad person nor a bad breeder. Yes I don't do this for a living. My babies have always been in my house never outside in a shed like most/some breeders. Joy didn't have a problem with this when she agreed to get the pup. She knew it then why did she even send money if it was such a big deal to her like she is saying. The reason she didn't get the pup at 6 weeks is only because she didn't have all the money then. AND BY THE WAY! I got my baby at 6 weeks. She is perfect in every way. I don't know any one who lets there pups go at 12 weeks unless no one has paid for them. The only ones I have ever heard of is on here.Not that 12 weeks is bad - it is a good idea.. but I did not do 12 weeks I did 6 - lets get over that point. I am not in for the money. I bred only for my friend that had my babies mama... so she could have a pup. Her baby got killed by a big dog. So out of the kindness of my heart... I put my lil baby in danger! So before you go bashing me - U need to know what your talking about completely. You don't even know what kind of person I am. Joy knows that I would never try to cheat her... I don't care what she says or what you think. I know she knows that I would not do that to her. I am not that type of person.

THIS IS AMANDA. NOT JEFFREY -- anyone that has anything to say to me... I am : ilovemyabbie. I have nothing to hide. I didn't do any thing wrong.

PLEASE LOCK THIS THREAD!

Hmmm, SOME VET! I'm glad mine isn't that ignorant.

Nothing is stated in your ad that the deposit is refundable. Nor does your ad say that it is contingent on a certain number of shots.

All I see here is someone trying to make a buck and doesn't want to be responsible for what they have produced and SOLD. If you cannot provide a warranty -- that should speak volumes.

These pups are not ready at 6 weeks to go to their forever homes. Why breed a litter (you did say you used a stud so this was a purposeful breeding) if you're not willing to do what is necessary to take care of what is necessary in the outcome?

Just because a child can feel his/herself at 2 years old . . .does that mean that it should be out in the world on his/her own? NOOOOOO

Joy ---- RUN sweetheart! There are reputable breeders out there that you'll know when you see them. In Georgia, the best that comes to mind is TyAva -- the owner/breeder of Wyatt.

Get an attorney . . . this ad does not say it is non-refundable.