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Lovetodream88 07-25-2018 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by sandybobb (Post 4765552)
With all the colors popping up, blonde, merle, ocean pearl, etc. in the yorkie universe, you can't assume that a puppy born "blue" has the "blue puppy" syndrome. Things aren't as they used to be; but DNA is a great resource.
Merle is NOT a yorkie color and if their are breeders breeding for them more then likely they are not good breeders nor Akc Yorkies.

sandybobb 07-25-2018 03:14 PM
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I, personally, completely agree with you. I much prefer traditional colors, although I have bred some parti-colors, but have no chocolate, blonde, or other colors in my lines. I believe that there must be some mix to have achieved a 'merle' yorkie, as that color is only in dachshund and australian shepherds, that I know of. I would not breed "off colors" and believe the breed should be left alone and not played with to achieve these colors to the detriment of conformation and health.

Lovetodream88 07-25-2018 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by sandybobb (Post 4765571)
I, personally, completely agree with you. I much prefer traditional colors, although I have bred some parti-colors, but have no chocolate, blonde, or other colors in my lines. I believe that there must be some mix to have achieved a 'merle' yorkie, as that color is only in dachshund and australian shepherds, that I know of. I would not breed "off colors" and believe the breed should be left alone and not played with to achieve these colors to the detriment of conformation and health.
I think you can do the colors and have healthy dogs you just have to be careful when buying one. I actually have a chocolate yorkie and had wanted one for a very long time.

rjwalt 08-13-2018 10:35 PM
OK, first of all, which pups were the parents? You posted 3 pics and I gotta tell you, contestant #1 is suspect..... I mean he/she looks yorkie-ish but i smell a cross. If that is the case than all of this blue-born stuff goes out of the window, that is only in play if the parents are 100% Yorkies.... not sure why no one pointed that out..... I mean I have seen some morkies and yorkie-poo's that look like straight up yorkies at this age but as they age, things change. The pup looks a bit chocolate/blonde to me. You need to have that first pup tested to see if he/she is 100%

Lovetodream88 08-14-2018 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by rjwalt (Post 4766934)
OK, first of all, which pups were the parents? You posted 3 pics and I gotta tell you, contestant #1 is suspect..... I mean he/she looks yorkie-ish but i smell a cross. If that is the case than all of this blue-born stuff goes out of the window, that is only in play if the parents are 100% Yorkies.... not sure why no one pointed that out..... I mean I have seen some morkies and yorkie-poo's that look like straight up yorkies at this age but as they age, things change. The pup looks a bit chocolate/blonde to me. You need to have that first pup tested to see if he/she is 100%
I believe she said they were AKC registered.

rjwalt 08-14-2018 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4766997)
I believe she said they were AKC registered.
So? Last time i checked AKC registration is not contingent upon DNA screening. All you need to do to to get a litter registered is have two id numbers with full breeding rights and a number of puppies then bam, you say 4 pups they send four slips/applications, you have four pups and say you had 7 then you have 3 extra AKC registrations you can slap on 3 yorkie/chihuahua mixes.... it is also possible for a dog to become pregnant by more than one dog...Were there other breeds in the home of the breeder? next door? Its so not that simple.

If having the AKC registration umbrella means people can charge more for pups, a greedy, dishonest person will do what they need to do to get over.

Browse the classifieds and see how many shady looking "akc" litters are floating around....
It could just be a case of unfortunate genes coming together or a bad photo but I would honestly recommend a parentage dna test to be sure on that one dog.

KatysMom 08-14-2018 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by rjwalt (Post 4766999)
So? Last time i checked AKC registration is not contingent upon DNA screening. All you need to do to to get a litter registered is have two id numbers with full breeding rights and a number of puppies then bam, you say 4 pups they send four slips/applications, you have four pups and say you had 7 then you have 3 extra AKC registrations you can slap on 3 yorkie/chihuahua mixes.... it is also possible for a dog to become pregnant by more than one dog...Were there other breeds in the home of the breeder? next door? Its so not that simple.

If having the AKC registration umbrella means people can charge more for pups, a greedy, dishonest person will do what they need to do to get over.

Browse the classifieds and see how many shady looking "akc" litters are floating around....
It could just be a case of unfortunate genes coming together or a bad photo but I would honestly recommend a parentage dna test to be sure on that one dog.
Thank you for your concern. DNA testing was been done on Mr. Blue. No one has questioned his lineage.

Lovetodream88 08-14-2018 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rjwalt (Post 4766999)
So? Last time i checked AKC registration is not contingent upon DNA screening. All you need to do to to get a litter registered is have two id numbers with full breeding rights and a number of puppies then bam, you say 4 pups they send four slips/applications, you have four pups and say you had 7 then you have 3 extra AKC registrations you can slap on 3 yorkie/chihuahua mixes.... it is also possible for a dog to become pregnant by more than one dog...Were there other breeds in the home of the breeder? next door? Its so not that simple.

If having the AKC registration umbrella means people can charge more for pups, a greedy, dishonest person will do what they need to do to get over.

Browse the classifieds and see how many shady looking "akc" litters are floating around....
It could just be a case of unfortunate genes coming together or a bad photo but I would honestly recommend a parentage dna test to be sure on that one dog.
Pretty sure it’s a bit more then that.

rjwalt 08-14-2018 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4767018)
Pretty sure it’s a bit more then that.

We would all love to think so when dropping thousands of dollars for a dog. The fact is any pair of dogs that is Akc registered with full breeding rights can have their litters registered and no one from AKC questions how many pups are claimed to be born, photo evidence, DNA, or validation from a vet or AKC rep, it's all honor code based.

Please take a gander at the clearly posted requirements on the official website or ask a "reputable breeder" If you are gonna go thread to thread towing the line for the AKC then please be sure to know exactly what that label means and does not mean.

Lovetodream88 08-15-2018 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by rjwalt (Post 4767028)
We would all love to think so when dropping thousands of dollars for a dog. The fact is any pair of dogs that is Akc registered with full breeding rights can have their litters registered and no one from AKC questions how many pups are claimed to be born, photo evidence, DNA, or validation from a vet or AKC rep, it's all honor code based.

Please take a gander at the clearly posted requirements on the official website or ask a "reputable breeder" If you are gonna go thread to thread towing the line for the AKC then please be sure to know exactly what that label means and does not mean.
I have yet to drop thousands on a yorkie even the youngest who is AKC because I have my own jaded issues with “reputable” breeders but I will definitely be look into this. It is considered the only reputable registry in the USA and due to how breeders stand behind it I will continue to believe there is more to it until I see differently.

rjwalt 08-15-2018 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4767056)
I have yet to drop thousands on a yorkie even the youngest who is AKC because I have my own jaded issues with “reputable” breeders but I will definitely be look into this. It is considered the only reputable registry in the USA and due to how breeders stand behind it I will continue to believe there is more to it until I see differently.
It's the best we have in terms of documenting lineage but it can be easily frauded. The pet trade is a multimillion dollar business and as with all businesses, people quickly find ways to get over.

The CKC accepts AKC registration and pedigrees in order to get CKC registration. More and more yorkies have CKC registration now because they come from dogs that were only granted limited AKC registration from their breeders with or without spay / neuter contracts......So many CKC dogs actually have pedigrees and bloodlines technically just as good as many AKC dogs.

Lovetodream88 08-15-2018 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by rjwalt (Post 4767062)
It's the best we have in terms of documenting lineage but it can be easily frauded. The pet trade is a multimillion dollar business and as with all businesses, people quickly find ways to get over.

The CKC accepts AKC registration and pedigrees in order to get CKC registration. More and more yorkies have CKC registration now because they come from dogs that were only granted limited AKC registration from their breeders with or without spay / neuter contracts......So many CKC dogs actually have pedigrees and bloodlines technically just as good as many AKC dogs.
And many that are not so it’s still a nonreputable registry. Anyway I feel this is going off topic......

rjwalt 08-15-2018 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4767064)
And many that are not so it’s still a nonreputable registry. Anyway I feel this is going off topic......
You seem really stuck on "reputable".Lol It's a cute word but hardly the trump card you make it out to be.

Lovetodream88 08-15-2018 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by rjwalt (Post 4767073)
You seem really stuck on "reputable".Lol It's a cute word but hardly the trump card you make it out to be.
Ehhhhh whatever I’m not going to keep going round and round with you. Not worth my time.

Melissac 08-21-2018 12:56 PM
So sad to know this could be a sign of weakened immune system. He is absolutely beautiful. Keep this little one and shower them with love!!


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