Shipping
 

Can anyone give me info on shipping Puppies? Nanny? Cost? What to expect. is it really good to ship a puppy on a long flight across the country?

I don't believe in shipping ANY puppy on a long flight unless they are IN CABIN with a courier. Courier prices usually run $200-300 for a pup.

:thumbup::thumbup:

I don't believe it is ever a good idea to ship a yorkie puppy. As the others mentioned, in cabin with a courier would be the only way I would even consider. I, personally, wouldn't even do that since you cannot see the parents or how the puppies were kept unless you fly down yourself and stay a night. If you are talking a long flight even in cabin could be very stressful on a puppy with layovers and not following the puppy's normal schedule.

My nanny charges $300 The puppy's ticket is usually $175-200 Then the cost for a health certificate, crate, blanket, toys, treats, ect. Is usually another $200 I've never had a problem flying my tiny puppies with a nanny they never get stressed and usually have a lot fun. If a puppy gets stressed that could just be the breeder didn't do a good enough job socializing and getting the puppies out and exposing them to new things.

I disagree with your reason about why a pup would be stressed because that's just not true. Some puppies can be more sensitive to things then other puppies or they could be stressed out by the million things that happen when flying it doesn't mean the breeder didn't do a good job. There is also a fear stage around 16 weeks so it the puppy wasn't being flown until then, then they could be stressed.

If they're breeding sensitive puppies maybe they should re-think their practice. I've never had sensitive puppies in the 10+ years I've been breeding all my puppies are bomb proof. As far as being stressed about about the airport and flying that can easily be dealt with by doing regular trips out to crowed places I've taken puppies to schools, hospitals, grocery shopping, the beach, and long car rides should feel the same as flying so puppies shouldn't be bothered by the flight.

I would never want a breeder to break the law by taking the puppy in a grocery store or hospital. It is also extremely risky to take pups out now that parvo and the dog flu are on the rise. I don't think having sensitive pups or ones that get stressed out by flying makes someone a bad breeder. Saying that is a little ridiculous in my opinion. It's normal for puppies to stress a little bit about somethings and if they didn't I would be a bit concerned.

1. It's not breaking the law by taking them into hospitals or grocery stores. The doctors and patients love when I bring my puppies never had any problems if anything it cheers everyone up and helps brighten their day as far as the grocery store again never had a problem no one has never said anything the workers and managers are always happy to see new puppies.
2 there's no risk for them catching anything if you carry them and have everyone clean their hands before touching the puppies I carry hand sanitizer and disinfectant wipes.
3. I never said they're a bad breeder I just said if it's a common thing to have sensitive puppies and you're socializing and getting them and they still are sensitive then they need to re-think either their breeding stock just like you shouldn't breed aggressive dogs you shouldn't be breeding any dogs that are less than sound temperament wise or they need to think about improving their methods for raising a litter. Like I said my puppies are bomb proof part of that is because I only breed confident solid temperament dogs and that is passed down to puppies the other half is because I put in my work to insure puppies are just as confident and solid as their parents.

It is against the law to take a dog in a grocery store unless it's service dog. It's also against the law in a hospital unless a service dog or therapy dog. Eventually the pup will have to go to the bathroom. The risk of parvo is high and I don't think they are being fully exposed to things by being in someone's arms. It would not be bad or unusual for a puppy to stress out on a plane especially when they just left mom and siblings to be handed over to a different person and then handed over again to another different person and put in a new living condition.

I never had a problem everyone knows me. In the hospital never once has anyone ever said you can't bring your puppies. Are there areas I can't go like the surgical floor of course. Since you seem to be stuck on this like I said they can take them to a school talk to the principle about bringing a litter of puppies to visit a class room and while you're there go over the do's and don'ts of owning a puppy or rules on how to properly approach a dog or puppy. The kids are learning and the puppies are socializing. If you know their bathroom schedule make sure to be back home before they have to go you have to be home anyway to feed them their food anyway. Puppies do not have to be on the ground to fully socialize they're still hearing all the noises getting tons of different smells meeting people being in crowds sometimes even getting mobbed when a group of people notice the cute fluffy puppies. I don't even let my adult dogs touch the ground when we're out I either carry them in my arms, or a purse, or depending on where we are going and how much walking I'm going to do they get pushed in a doggy stroller and no I don't even put them down to go potty they know to hold it until we get home.

IMO, I would never buy a pup that had to fly to me. If I wanted it that badly, then I would drive to the breeder.

You might not have been told but it's still against the rules. A class of kids could also be a great way to get them sick or even parvo. Most schools won't let you do that anyway. I'm not a fan of not letting dogs be on the ground where they can sniff everything and enjoy walks. I take my dogs lots of places but don't expect them to hold it all day. You say I'm not letting it go but you continue to respond lol. I disagree with you that's my right.

Lol if you read I said your stuck on whether it's allowed for puppies to go into a hospital and grocery store. I have never met a school who had a problem with letting me go in the class room with the puppies and talk to them about dogs. Once again hand sanitizer and disinfectant wipes and they're fine never had a puppy get parvo EVER and I live in California and breed Rottweilers, on top of my toys, they are a breed known for being prone to get Parvo never once have I had a litter get parvo. Puppies can get parvo from families coming to visit them at the breeders house. If you want a puppy that is sheltered and not exposed and is weak in temperament or "sensitive" than fine by me you are more than welcomed to do what you feel is best. Me on the other hand I perfer confident strong puppies that's my view. All my puppies adjust immediately in their new homes they are never stressed or scared the first night all my buyers usually call me to tell me how shocked they were that their puppy slept through the night with no problems and blended and into their new home flawlessly so obviously my methods work extremely well.

Not saying I want a sheltered or whatever pup I'm just saying it would be normal for any pup to be a bit stressed in that case. It wouldn't even mean they were sheltered or from a bad breeder it just happens. There is a fear period at around 16 weeks and even the most exsposed puppies can have a little stress at that time.

Again not saying they are a bad breeder just stating if weak temperaments is a common thing something in the equation needs to change or be evaluated. Flying cargo I understand 100% if the puppies were stressed or scared but being held, cuddled, and loved by a nanny during the flight should not cause a sound puppy to be stressed. When not being held they should be in the crate again this shouldn't stress them the breeder should've by the time a puppy is to ship out gotten them use to a crate.

There are flight attendants that won't let you take the pups out and are strick to the rules. Planes are loud and I still believe it would be normal for a little stress on them without meaning there was the wrong breeding of temperaments. I don't think it would be the crate that would stress them I think it would be the loud noises and what going up and down does to your ears. I'm not sure why you want to fight on this. My opinion isn't going to change and I never said that flying was bad for puppies all I was saying is it would be normal for your average pup to feel a little stressed.

I've shipped Yorkies, adult and older puppies all over the world without harm to them. I've had some interesting and frustrating scenarios at the airport and with customs, but nothing of great consequence to the dogs. One I have to chuckle about was a couple of years ago with an adult dog coming from Lithuania, via Latvia, to Boston. We had to overcome complications with Customs and I knew he had to be very hungry, so ASAP I took him to McDonald's and bought him a hambuger. He looks at me as if I walk on water ever since!

I think weather or not dogs are allowed in hospitals, school, etc depends on the state law. I see that everyone in this conversation are in different states. Here in Texas, yes they are allowed however business owners have the final say so. I take my Tessa everywhere even in eating areas, of course she is small and in her purse bag, so I doubt many people even notice plus she's use to it and doesn't bark or make noise. I don't like leaving her by herself. ;)

I believe every where in the US it illegal for dogs to be in stores that sell food like the grocery store it's actually something that could get them closed down by the health department. Hospitals allow service dogs and therapy dogs but they are not supposed to allow just regular pet dogs.

You are correct. I have sold dogs to doctors who own their own private practices and they take their little dogs into work with them everyday they're practically the office mascots they have their own little area in their owners office and they have a second area usually behind the front desks the dogs love it and the patients love it. As for stores in California there are a ton of dog friendly stores and restaurants. I just took one of my puppies from my current litter to the butchers today to pick up raw food for them. Didn't have any problems they loved him and was really curious about how raw feeding a litter was going if I noticed any negatives with choosing raw and were shocked how big the puppy was.

Doctors office is a bit different then a hospital. The butcher could actually get fined if the health department found out. Ehhh raw feeding to dangerous for me, I'm a certified vet assistant and we learned about raw feeding and in my opinion it's just not safe specifically if your pups are going to hospitals!

Then that's a you problem because raw feeding is way healthier and more natural than any dog food out there. I don't trust most vets or vet assistants views on raw vs. dog food most are taught to push dog food because most clinics are sponsored by dog food companies plus feeding dog food makes sure dogs are having to go to the vet which keeps money in their pockets. Luckily my vet is a small independent vet and he backs my raw feeding 100% he's noticed the difference in my dogs and puppies. My dogs are all healthy I even raw feed pregnant moms and their puppies come out amazing meaning good coats, healthy weights, all are born screaming and moving. I've not had a single problem since my dogs have switched to raw if anything they are all 10x healthier. Feeding dog food is dangerous to me.

It's all opinions on raw none of it has been proven! You can disagree with science which is what we learn. We certainly are not taught to push food and you saying that is false. Clinics are not sponsored by pet food companies and I'm not sure where you got that info but it is 100% false! Dog food dosent make dogs just have to go to the vet infact raw would make my one girl so sick she would constantly at the vet. I'm not sure we're you get your information from but most of it is false.

The difference has been proven there are so many groups and people out there that have made videos showing the changes their dogs went through while eating raw and it's amazing. I for one am 1 of the people that have seen the changes in my dogs since making the change. Science HA you want to talk science there is only a 0.2% difference between a wolf and a dog that is not much of a difference I don't see wolves and dogs in the wild eating anything that resemble dog food. There is absolutely nothing natural about feeding little pellets of food even the so called natural food there is nothing right about taking meat and vegetables and baking and cooking them down until they are in little pellet forms. My dogs now turn their noses up to dog food they would rather starve then eat that junk now. Sure vets are not taught to push dog food and sponsored so with all their supposed knowledge on nutrition they just choose to push and sell that junk science diet which isn't worth the bag it comes in. Sorry to say it but I have seen a lot of people taking their dogs to the vet for problems that can easily be solved by switching to a raw diet. If your dog got sick on a raw diet you were probably at fault and not doing it right plain and simple don't blame the raw for user error. Join a raw group on FB or a raw forum and you can learn all the benefits on raw feeding and the proper ways to do it.

Vets don't push dog food they sell and if you find one that does it's a bad vet unless of course they are doing it for a heath issue. Raw dosent fix allergies I know 3 people on this bored who feed it and their dogs still have bad allergies because food can't simply fix something that is in the environment. Wolves and dogs are very different and yorkies are even more different. I had tried freeze dried raw and my older girl has IBD which can not be fixed by raw she has to be on a special diet Royal Canin Hypoallergenic small breed that has a man made protein in it because she is allergic to most real ones. I prefer homecooking to raw and had even tried that for her but some meats still caused issues even cooked duck and rabbit. She has no choice but to be on her prescription food and my vet didn't push it. When she was diagnosed my vet said this is the issue and we have these foods that can help and told me about each one and let me make my decision. Some medical conditions require prescription food. I have known several people who did right raw feeding and it made their dogs sick so it's not a one fits all thing it doesn't work for everybody. Did you know therapy dogs can't eat raw food or they are not aloud to visit the sick and elderly? Everything is not black and wight there are shades of many colors.

So it wasn't the raw, your dog is sick there's something wrong with her personally so you can't blame the raw for that. I know a ton of people in the bully world that feed only raw because their dogs health issues litterally went away whether it was they couldn't keep weight or muscles on them or their coats were dry and balding in some areas. The grand parent to one one Rottweilers is raw fed has been raw fed since a puppy and she is turning 17 this year and she still gets out on her land and herds cattle. Me personally I switched because one of my toy poodles couldn't keep weight on and she was so picky about her food I started her on raw she took to it immediately started gaining weight and her hair texture changed and she now has the nicest poodle coat and 1 of my Rottweilers his eye would ooze this green gunk took him to the vet they wanted to put him on antibiotics I decided to switch him to raw before giving him any medicine to see if the problem would go away a week on raw his eyes cleared, his coat is the best I've seen it and I haven't had that problem since. My dogs are extremely healthy they visit the vet now every 3 years for rabies because I'm required by my license for them to have it but other than that and taking my pregnant girls in to get x-rays close to their due dates, and the occasional emergency they don't go to the vets. My puppies from my litter go to the vet once and that is before they leave to get a check up and a full exam.

I am just saying raw is not the answer for all. All dogs really should go to the vet for a yearly check up and blood work. I'm guessing your against vaccinating too?