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Originally Posted by mimimomo (Post 4325309)

They must have some sort of protection for their breeding stock?

Our most reputable and famous breeder right now is this one:
La Villa y Corte Yorkshire Terrier
They are in Madrid (though they ship here to the island).She has 3 generations of world champions and 16 generations of stud champions in her lines.Her dogs are expensive (to us of course, to you maybe they arent so much) and even she doesnt have a breeding contract.I know this because my mentor has bought 2 dogs from her (just recently a boy who she will use as a stud once he is older) and the female she brought from her 3 years ago is currently pregnant.People who buy her pups often end up showing them too, or using the males as studs, and due to the champion bloodlines, the people who own these puppies ask for ALOT of money.So no, even the best and most reputable don´t tend to have a contract of any kind because it is considered that once you buy a dog, the rights belong to the new owner ;)
I also know a champion german sheppard breeder.She also shows her dogs.LOTS of people buy her puppies and breed them also.Here, people don´t see breeding contracts as protection, infact, if they exsisted, people like Ana (from La Villa y Corte) would never be able to sell their pups.

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Originally Posted by mimimomo (Post 4325309)

Were the last 2 placentas accounted for?

yes :)

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Originally Posted by gracielove (Post 4325327)

What registry do they use in Spain for pure bred dogs? The registering agency can't add something to the registration papers that can stop people from registering a litter from specific dogs?

Here we have L.O.E and R.R.C for registration, but with the HUGE amount of purebred dogs being sold these days without being registered (to keep the prices of puppys down) it would be pointless to try and use the paperwork to prevent breeding because 90% of purebred dogs arent even registered.
MANY breeders (grand majority now actually) will ask if you want your puppy registered or not.If you don´t, the pup will be cheaper, but in the future if you want to sell your puppies, you´ll have to sell them cheaper too ;)

Basiclly, the only reason people want paperwork anymore is because they want to be able to sell their own pups for more money later on, and being as people just arent forking out huge amounts for pups these days, you can imagine how many people actually register their dogs anymore ;)

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Originally Posted by Ginas_babys (Post 4325362)

:thumbup: yay glad that all the placentas passed. Is Bella still panting? It could be that she's too warm, or it could be that she might have a small infection, it's common after giving birth. I would get the vet to check her out asap. IDK if you do well checks for the puppies once they're born, vet checks for cleft palette, any hernias, etc. You can now start giving her calcium supplements if vet says it's ok. Dawn gave you a good link as to why she could be panting.

Wow it's a shame that anyone can breed these dogs over there. Are there even any health & genetic testing done on the breeding dogs? How is the homeless dog population over there? Here, it is awful, thousands of cats & dogs die everyday, about 1 every 11 seconds are put down to rest in shelters.:(

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Originally Posted by Ginas_babys (Post 4325234)

Well, yesturday, as you know, the pups were born :D It was acually alot different than I imagined and I can say this right now, we won´t be doing this again..I´m so not made for this.
Not because everything went horribly wrong, thank god, everything went as planned and Bella did wonderful, but because had anything gone wrong, in that moment when you only have a split second to react and you have to be cold blooded and level headed and know exactly what you´re doing, I simply would not have been able to function.Had anything strayed from textbook, I would have freaked out. It´s very hard when it´s your dog.
Since yesturday, I have a new found respect for breeders and I am one of those people who agree that you have to be a certain kind of person to do that.You are trully amazing women! *bows down to you* :D

Anyhoo.
Yesturday Bella was acting weird all day.Not anything that made me think "yeah, she´s in labour", but I did feel that something was going to happen soon.I had read everything I could get my hands on, I had spent waaaaay to much time with my mentor and I had watched endless videos of dog whelping on youtube etc, so I thought I knew what to look out for and what was going to happen :rolleyes:
I was looking out for the panting, everything I had been told and read had told me that when a dog is in early labour, she starts to pant, and that this stage could last for a few hours.
Bella was mellow, sleepy and very clingy and had poop incontinence as of yesturday, so I started to wash the rags and towels I was going to use for the birth of the puppies etc and I sat around waiting for this "panting" stage.

Suddenly, at 7pm, Bella went from being totally asleep on the couch, to sitting up straight and panting franticly.So of course, I thought "great! This is it..in a few hours, things will start to get heavy".
I took Bella into my room to her whelping box where she continued to completely FREAK OUT! (panting and turning in circles as if running from her own butt) :eek:
She wanted NOTHING to do with the whelping box and tried to get up onto my bed (which is where she has slept since was a baby) so to calm her down, and thinking we had a long way to go yet, I sat on my bed and put her on my lap, turned on the TV so she´d calm down (this is our night routine) and I petted her belly.

DH came in with his phone (in case we needed to call someone) and 2 minutes later, Bella strained, so I put her next to me on the bed, lifted her tail, and in another strain, this happened (taken with DHs phone):
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/s...psde73643e.jpg

Bella quickly burst the "bubble" on her own, and in another push, the pup came right out, butt first.Bella started licking her straight away and she bit through the cord (placenta still on the inside) and the first pup was free.
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/s...pseacfdc61.jpg
I scooped her up and started "roughing her up" gently in a small rag until she was squirming about and making a noise.Then Bella wanted to push again, so I handed the first pup to DH and payed attention to Bella again.
The first placenta came out and we let her eat that.Then 5 minutes later the second puppy came (alot quicker this time) and again, Bella bit through the cord before the placenta was out.
Now we sat waiting for the second placenta thinking Bella was done.I washed my hands, I wiped Bella down a little and then I quickly updated on here :)
Then suddenly, bella stood up and started to push and I asumed it was the placenta..it wasnt, it was another puppy! :eek:
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/s...psc855cb7f.jpg

So, all went well, although it was ALOT faster than I thought and in the end, she had the pups on my bed, right there with DH and I.
Afterwards we moved her and the pups to her bed on the floor right next to mine (only place she´ll stay) and she has been laying with them ever since :love:
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/s...psd6d4d049.jpg

3 girls, weighing in at 3.5ounces
3.5ounces
& 3 ounces :)

She has eaten today and she´s peed, but she hasnt pooped yet.Also, Bella is panting alot today too.
She doesnt have a fever and she´s fine, so why is she panting? :confused: It´s not too hot at all, infact we thought she´d need a hot water bottle last night, but it´s stil pretty warm here, so that´s gone for now.
Is it normal for her to be panting? :rolleyes:

Is she still panting??? I have heard that the whole process can take up to 24 hrs. I'm not a breeder but I would make sure that she has had all of her pups. I once had a dog that could not have a pup becaues it was too large. I thought she was done but she kept panting and acted like she had to poop so off to the vet for c section we went. Congrats on the pups by the way!!

I am glad everything went well. Momma is pretty. I love her color. One thing I need to caution you about is the length of the momma coat. Those babies can easily get tangled in her hair and strangle. You need to either tie her coat up with soft scrunchies or cut the coat to where it is no more than a couple of inches long.

Panting is normal after they have the pups. Just don't make the room to hot for the momma. Also keep an eye on her temperature. If it goes over 103 then you would need to contact a vet. I pray the momma and babies do well.

Congratulations on your beautiful litter, I enjoyed your step by step picture story of how it happened. I am glad to hear that all went so well.

Congrats on the new babies!! I honestly don't think I could handle breeding my babies either. It would be too stressful and emotional taxing for me to do...and god forbid anything happen to them in the birthing process. I don't think I could ever forgive myself for consciously making the choice to put my baby in harms way.

I really commend the responsible, reliable breeders out there who are able to handle it.

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Originally Posted by theporkieyorkie (Post 4326600)

I really commend the responsible, reliable breeders out there who are able to handle it.

I do to.From my understanding and from what I have been told (vet, mentor etc), things go well and straight forward more often than not, and most bitches will whelp and not need any asistance.
BUT, if something does go wrong, you need to be cold blooded and react.You need to put your emotions aside and do what you need to do, and I am a "freezer" when it comes to that.
It´s also an expensive process.People tend to think that you breed and get a bunch of free yorkies - There´s no such thing as a free puppy ;)

ALOT goes into breeding and it doesnt end when the pups arrive either.I don´t think I´ve slept a full night since the pups were born, because every little squeek and every little sound makes me turn on the light to make sure everything is ok.The worry doesnt go away.

This is the main reason I will be keeping these puppys and why I wont be breeding again.I feel like I´ve put everything in me into this and now I am emotionally attached to all 3.I will never get back all that I´ve invested (not talking about money here ;) ) so they are staying with me.
Being as I know this would happen every time, and I can´t have a housefull of yorkies, I am done :D

P.s- If I had to put a price on a puppy after going through this, no one would be able to afford one! ;)
You can´t put a price on emotions, on all the love that goes into this.

I used to think that some breeders were CRAZY for charging what they do, but now? I think they´re cutting themselfs short no matter what they charge.

I love these babies so much already, tiny little feet, tiny little tails, perfection...Ahhhh, you can´t buy that kind of thing :love:

I loved the play-by-play of the births! I am so glad it went well. How is Bella today? I'm hoping the panting resolved and her temp is ok? I would have to keep the pups, too:rolleyes:
Looking forward to seeing pics as they grow!

Oomgggg! How adorable! Congrats! Im so excited!

That was exciting to read and view the pix. Thanks for posting.

You may to update the other thread, I left there wondering what happened till I found this one.

Congratulations

Wow that was a brill update with the pics,, thanks Gina ,, congrats on ur beautiful babies and to little mom. I wud be the same I'd keep them all lol as I wud hate to bring a life into the world and someone not treating it right, that I cud not live with,, good luck on ur new beautiful family xx