Need advice from experienced breeders :)
 

Hello guys!! Okay so I have a pretty male Yorkie, he's 5 months old. I was going to purchase him as pet only but I decided to buy his full AKC registration as the breeder said he was good quality and she would give me a pup in exchange for stud service. I want to breed him because I want to keep a female but Im worried that keeping him unaltered will cause him to be aggressive and or mark his territory. Do you guys think that it's worth leaving him unaltered? Do you guys think I he will mark his territory? I bring him to the office with me everyday and Im scared he will start to urinate on the customers or the walls lol and I don't want to wait too long after he builds the bad habits. Thank you in advanced. :)

My almost 11 yr old male retired stud who is now neutered will mark every time my female comes into heat. So, I really dont know if this is something he does out of habit or because he is still marking his territory to ward off any potential suiters. But he does it in the house and there are no other males here.

Here are some pros and cons of neutering:

Pro & Cons of Neutering Dogs | eHow

All my unaltered dogs mark, especially after breeding. I found if you neuter while still a "squatter" they don't mark. But you never know for sure. I can almost bet after breeding he will mark.

He will definitely start marking. Both intact males at my house mark constantly. They have to wear a belly band when they are running the house.

Yes I think I will neuter him, as much as I would love a baby from him I don't think I would be able to take him to work with me. I had a male chihuahua who was an adult he was bred before and I needed to re home him because he would mark the groceries, the clean clothe etc. when do you guys think I should neuter him? Do you think at 5 months or 6 months is too soon or it's good because I avoid the bad habits. He's about 3lbs. Thank you guys so much!! I had no one else who had experience in this!! :)

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I would neuter him around 8 months old...the growth plates have usually closed by then and you dont have issues with early neutering later in life....

I think it would be cheaper to buy a female, your breeder is just trying to use him, and breeding him will change his personality.

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Don't get into the breeding arena. To do it right is very expensive. And I mean expensive for you.

In terms of marking, I can't comment as my breeding experience is with large dogs, and no, they never mark in the house.

But Amazing Yorkie said that is her experience, and for sure I know with my breeder of my Yorkie that is the experience with the breeding Yorkie males she has in her home.

Save your money and purchase a female YOrkie when you want one and the time is right.

In terms of neutering, there are many threads on here about this self same question.

For males which is what you have, I would recommend waiting until after the growth plates close, and this is approximately 8mths or more. No guesswork is needed, as you have an Xray taken at or a little after 8mths old of a lateral view of the tibia. The tibial plate is the last growth plate to close, and once closed then many osteo problems maybe avoided.

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It's not about the cost, I just wanted to have a female from his bloodline. He's good quality, and I would like to have the father and daughter pair. It's ideally what I hoped for but I take him with me everywhere and I'm scared he will develop bad habits.

What do you mean good quality? Has he been evaluated by anyone except the breeder in question? Why a father and daughter pair? Hope both get spayed and neutered as this would make a disastrous pairing. By the way, many genetic illnesses don't show up till after the age of 2, do you even know if the breeder has done genetic testing and other health testing? I think you are dealing with a breeder who just wants you to maintain her stud dog, smart on her part, not so smart on your part.

I agree. She sold a pup, but still gets to use it. She gets moeny from selling the pup, then gets more money later for selling more pups, and doesn't have to pay a thing. Along with that, and the fact that she is just allowing you to purchase breeding rights for this dogs make me think her ethics are questionable. If you have no experience in breeding, why would a good breeder with good quality dogs just let you start breeding with one of her dogs? Assuming she put a lot of blood, sweat, and tears into her stock, why would she just give everything over to someone who doesn't know anything about breeding?

She's a champion dog breeder, my dog is excellent. She doesn't release full rights to all dogs, he has a short body and he's great quality. She has had genetic testing on her dogs and she had many great references including a vet reference. I don't want the father and daughter pair to breed obviously just so that I have his bloodline, and so that I could keep the family together. I love my dogs and by no means would I breed irresponsibly. I think your attacking the wrong person.

What did I say that made you feel like I was attacking you? If you think I'm negative towards your breeder that is correct. You say in your first post that you paid more so that you would have breeding rights because the breeder said he was good breeding quality. :confused: Sorry, but this sounds more like a marketing technique, not something someone who cares about the breed would say. If he was under 10 months when you bought him, your breeder had no way to tell if he was good quality, and I don't care who his dad is. I personally think it’s wrong for breeder to charge more for breeding rights and a dog is either good enough to breed or he isn’t, but either way, there’s no way she would know that early. A good breeder would suggest you show him to see if he does meet standard. You say she’s a champion breeder; she must understand the importance of showing and must know that champions don’t always begat champions.

Just because she did genetic testing on her dogs, don’t forget, you must also do genetic testing on him and these tests are expensive for a one time breeding stud service. I hope this great breeder doesn’t suggest you skip them. You asked a question, “Would he mark and if we thought it was worth it.” Experienced breeders here answered, “Yes, he will mark” (and by the way, unaltered dogs' marking is much stronger smelling), and I answered no it isn’t worth because of some of the other problems, such as your breeder is using you and it’s not worth it just to save on the cost female. If, as you say, “It's not about the cost, you just wanted to have a female from his bloodline,” than my suggestion is that you buy another female instead of using him as a stud. A working dog is a working dog and a stud is a working dog. If you want a pet dog you can take everywhere, you will be much happier with a neutered dog.

:thumbup:I totally agree the breeder is trying to use the OP.

Also, you go back far enough on any yorkies pedigree, there are bound to be some champions. Are there just champions in the line? Or is the pup champion sired?