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hi i posted this in the wrong section an got 2 replies one said get her fixed and the othe was a suggestion to post here so i copied and pasted:)
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hi i have a yorkie girl and have done a load of research over the last few years. but not enough yet i am thinking of breeding her but not till later in the year. i was wondering where i could go to get helpful advice....... i know about most of the medical side and how to deal with most emergencies and how to look after the mum before during and after. i tried going to the local vet to get info...their reply was if you don't know you should not be doing it then was told to get her spayed. (i dont want to that and i keep her indoors during her season)
i am trying to find out all the things i need in a puppy kit and what the best type of whelping box is.
i dont want go go into this blind so any help would be good.
i looked at loads of youtube vids and have read every book i can find and non of them show the puppy kit (without advertising products) if i cant find all the info i wont do it as she is my best friend and dont want to put her in danger...i will be asking for help from the owner of the boy dog too

Hi & Welcome to YT. I don't think you should be breeding your baby as she's not registered & most likely her parents were never checked out for soundness. This means that you could unknowingly pass on some pretty devastating traits to the pups, such as AAI, Chiari, Liver Shunt & LP.
Just Love your baby & forget about breeding her as that would be best for her as well.

what tests do i need to do? the parents were healthy and pedigree i just didnt register her as she is not uk breed standard. i might do the tests weather i decide to breed or not just to be sure:)

It's not just about testing your pup, you need to know the health & genetics of her parents & grandparents & so on.... You can also do research on the things I mentioned & will most likely be shocked at what you find but these are the things our babies can be afflicted with & just because your pup appears to be healthy on the outside does not mean that she will not pass any of these horrible things to her pups. If you intend to be a breeder then you need to do lots of research & save your money to purchase some champion healthy, free of genetic disorders & deformities parents. I know that you would never want to pass on anything as horrible as the things I mentioned to pups & other owners as they are heartbreaking & Very expensive for the owners & painful & life threatening to the pups.
This is most likely why your vet suggested for you to spay your pup. Breeding should def be left to the pros.There are plenty of badly bred pups in this world who need homes already & I'm sure that you would not want to add to that population.;)

I thought you had a "diplomas in animal care and know the science behind genetics and will be checking her top to toe."

You apparently do not know what you are doing. Leave the breeding to the professionals, Breeding your dog is not easy, You can't just ask for advise, and research it- It is something that takes YEARS of experience, Years of research.

can we put the 2 posts together to make things easier

We have many great breeders here, but they don't breed their pets. They study breeding and find a mentor way before they ever start breeding. You can learn a lot by going to dog shows, and you might be able to meet someone who's willing to mentor you. Some people will say they will mentor you in order to sell you a breeding dog, and they have no business breeding either, but if it's really in your blood, there is a correct way to do it. If you want to breed your pet, just to earn money, I urge you not to do it. Just because you "think" her parents were healthy, it doesn't mean they were. It costs a lot to begin a real breeding program, and too many greeders are ruining the Yorkshire Terrier breed and causing so much heartache for pet owners. If you know she isn’t breed standard why would you want to breed her, there is more to being a Yorkie than just being a “purebred.”

you are right but i have to start somewhere don't i? and i have done research and got a diploma in animal care i have most of the info i need but it never hurts to have too much info does it?
can you give me some worst case sinarios please?
i know not to just let her breed....careful selection of male.....both have to be in good health.... do all the tests etc



(apologies for spelling)

not breeding for money.

You are right you have to start somewhere, but to start somewhere you have to have the right Yorkie.

Do you honestly think you have the right Yorkie standard to breed... You don't even know if she is a Yorkie or a Maltese..

This was one of your threads...


"tilly (16 weeks) a yorkie or a morkie there were 2 entire males in the house when i went to look at her 1 yorkie and i maltese. the mother was light tan and pale blue the male yorkie black and tan

howcan you tell if you have a black and tan morkie?"

i dont plan to rush into anything got over a year to go yet as i'm waiting for the 4th season she has only had 2 so far every 8 months

The worst case scenerio for you is you lose the mother or the pups and I do see it happen just on here. Do you have money set aside for a C section? They can cost thousands and its not uncommon for a yorkie to need one. The worst case scenerio for the yorkie breed is that there are more yorkies brought into this world that are not breed standard that can be bred to make more out of standard yorkies with questionable health histories. That is why we have passion on this subject

i learned loads since then lol.....including as it turned out the maltese was neutered....i felt a little silly after that...which is why i did not post for a while afterwards :sidesplt:

i promise i will be doing loads of research before i decide....and alot of saving up. if at the end of the reading and questions asked i am not 100% sure i will not do it. and will use the money to go on a pet friendly holiday;)

the groomer i go to has loads of connections in the industry and has offered to help.
one bit of advice i got and knew was bad was from a local "breeder" who said i should have let her have pups on the second season. i smiled and said oh well good luck.
on a lighter note (i hope)...if all goes well all checks passed.... is it hard keeping track of yorkie puppies that have found their feet ? i know i will have to hide all chewable items (like toes etc).

My only experience breeding was with cats but I can tell you 6 week old and over kittens are a handful so Im sure its the same with pups.

youtube..shows me loads (of things not to do)
 

i have seen lots of videos on youtube and most of them are either silent movies with music dubbed over and floaty bits on or ones with sound with loads of people in the room screaming omg blood what do we do. i also saw one scary one where the cord was cut too soon i thought the dog was going to bleed out :eek:

I think you should just spay your female- What would happen if you did breed her and you lost her during birth?

Is it worth it to you to take that chance?

Thats why the dog shouldnt be cutting the cords the breeder should. I have heard of alot on here from losing the mom,losing the pups, losing both, pup born with intestines on the outside (nothing can be done for them), Mom killing pups and on and on. I will tell you from my situation with cats My cat had a litter of 4 kittens and one by one they all died except one dispite my attempts to hand feed them and save them. The one that did remain I had to hand feed at the time of weaning with a tiny doll spoon to keep her going because the mother wouldnt nurse her and she wouldnt eat food. I also had her at the vet at the ASAP when she had diahrea and also an eye not opening by the developmental age it should open.

My dear.....the VERY first thing you ask yourself is, "Am I willing to sacrifice the life of my female to get a litter of puppies"? If you think it is worth maybe loosing your female, (and you must have a VERY fabulous female that you paid in excess of $3000.00!) go to the next question. "Am I completely knowledgable of the pedigrees behind both my females dam and sire?"...That includes a working knowledge of the different lines, their strengths and weaknesses, and what these individual lines go best with. I personally have been involved with Yorkies since 1978, and I began to do all my research on the breed and pedigrees, etc, and did not start breeding until 2002. I am still in awe of what has eluded me! I have a mentor that is so knowledgable of these pedigrees as far back as 30 generations, and I thank God for her invaluable assistance and expertise! You NEVER know it all, but you must have a clear understanding of what you are combining and what you are expecting to get from the combination. That comes from knowledge of those lines as far as, at the VERY least, 15-20 generations back. Otherwise, you are setting yourself up, plus the little innocent babies YOU will be responsible for bringing into the world, as well as future owners YOU have sold puppies to..(...people that are depending on YOU to know what you are doing, so their baby, that has completely stolen their heart, does not die from a lousy genetic condition that could have been avoided if the breeder had know what they were doing)...to tremendous heartache, suffering and pain, and tons of expense. Breeding these precious angels is a HUGE responsibility and requires a steadfast commitment to the breed. I am thrilled you are not doing it for the money.....I can promise you, you will be doing very well to break even. If your whelping female gets into trouble in the middle of the night, you are looking at a minimum of $1000.00 at an ER clinic.....you may end up with a c-section (ka-ching, ka-ching), and you may loose the entire litter..... and you may loose your female in the deal....ask yourself, is it REALLY worth it? If you are truly NOT doing it "for the money", unless you have a show quality female, and a show quality stud, why in the world ARE you doing it? All questions you must ask yourself.......

hi thanks for the replies:) i paid 300 not 3000.
i'll take note of all comments :)
besides tilly might not like the man i choose for her....
is it true that sometimes the petsonality changes after puppies?

Anything can happen in breeding. I have never lost a bitch, but it does happen. I have lost pups in past litters and I have just had a litter of 2 females and one just only lived for 6 hours. I have had many trips to the ER costing hundreds and even thousands for a c-sect. I dont breed champions. but i have 2 generations back on mine or more. I still had a pup turn up with LP, a heart murmur. things just happen that no one can explain. Unless you have numerous generations back and still things happen. Heard it all. There is NO profit in breeding. I personally give my pups away for the cost of what is cost me to friends and good aquantances. But i do keep some too. It takes a lot of work to care for mom and pups. You cannot work nor go on holiday when whelping and caring for pups. Thats exactly why I am done for a while.

i dont go on holiday very often.......in the last 3 years i have been out once so tilly would never be alone during the time from mating to finding good homes.

I suggest you read this:

The Kennel Club | Responsible Dog Breeding

If your dog is not registered you cannot register her puppies.
The main reason for breeding is to improve the breed, not just have cute little puppies.
Breeding Yorkies is definitely not for the amateur.
I bred Lhasa's in England years ago. I had a couple of Yorkies at the time and no way would I breed Yorkies, they are more delicate than other breeds. I had my Yorkies spayed, as it was the responsible thing to do. I leave Yorkie breeding to the experts.

If you are truly determined, it will be okay.

Omg.................

Ditto............ fallacies abound!

You asked for what can go wrong? here is a link to an article in our breeding library
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...t-breeder.html