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Brooklynn 01-19-2011 06:49 AM

I would refund the money up the purchase price for medical costs and let one keep the puppy because by then they are attached to the pup. If they wanted to return the pup of course I would take the pup back and a full refund. Any reputable breeder would do that. Good luck on your search and welcome to YT.

Donna

Mardelin 01-19-2011 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Brooklynn (Post 3399015)
I would refund the money up the purchase price for medical costs and let one keep the puppy because by then they are attached to the pup. If they wanted to return the pup of course I would take the pup back and a full refund. Any reputable breeder would do that. Good luck on your search and welcome to YT.

Donna

Replacement pup is hogwash. A refund to assist in medical bills is the only thing a reputable breeder would do.

Mardelin 01-19-2011 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mindync (Post 3398301)
I researched this breeder as well as many others- I certainly believe that I am throughly knowledgeable of her breeding practices- otherwise I would not have purchased a pup from her.

Knowledgable about one's breeding practices does not mean your experience in purchasing a puppy went well. Does she test her breeding dogs, are pups tested prior to releasing them to their new homes. The fact that she only replaces a pup does not fare well.

Will she take a dog back should an owner no longer be able to care for it. Insist on conducting the rehoming process......

jcoulter1181 01-19-2011 07:20 AM

[quote"Sorry OP if I'm hijacking your thread, but if I was a puppy buyer, I'd want to know the answer to that question. Yes I have a yorkie, but he didn't come with a contract. Plus, I don't think being refunded the purchase price of my dog would help with any finances anyway. I didn't pay much anyway. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/ima...ies/tongue.gif "[/quote]

No problem, we are all here to learn and ask questions anyway!



Thanks for all who have taken the time to answer. The contract IMO does not have to be word for word perfect and offer to pay back all money spent on vet visits, meds, etc. etc. etc. As long as the breeder seems respectable, raises the pups properly, cares for the babies and makes every effort to help I am not going to be to particular on the fine print.

Nobody, I don't care who you are, can prevent or promise a puppy will not develope some type of disease or sickness 100%. I would not spend the money on a puppy if I didn't not have the money to spend on one...all this talk of money IMO doesn't make the slightest bit of difference to me, I just want a healthy happy baby regardless of whether they come with a money back guarantee! It's a dog, not a pair of shoes.

Obviously I would not purchase from a breeder who has a history of sick puppies or does not have them vet checked, UTD on shots, wormings etc. I will be checking references, the home where the puppies are raised, speaking with their vet, seeeing the puppies parents etc.

I am just looking for a companion and furbaby to love, not a guarantee that the dog is going to be an absolute perfect specimen of the breed.

jcoulter1181 01-19-2011 07:21 AM

[quote"Sorry OP if I'm hijacking your thread, but if I was a puppy buyer, I'd want to know the answer to that question. Yes I have a yorkie, but he didn't come with a contract. Plus, I don't think being refunded the purchase price of my dog would help with any finances anyway. I didn't pay much anyway. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/ima...ies/tongue.gif "[/quote]

No problem, we are all here to learn and ask questions anyway! :)



Thanks for all who have taken the time to answer. The contract IMO does not have to be word for word perfect and offer to pay back all money spent on vet visits, meds, etc. etc. etc. As long as the breeder seems respectable, raises the pups properly, cares for the babies and makes every effort to help I am not going to be to particular on the fine print.

Nobody, I don't care who you are, can prevent or promise a puppy will not develope some type of disease or sickness 100%. I would not spend the money on a puppy if I didn't not have the money to spend on one...all this talk of money IMO doesn't make the slightest bit of difference to me, I just want a healthy happy baby regardless of whether they come with a money back guarantee! It's a living breathing being, not a pair of shoes.

Obviously I would not purchase from a breeder who has a history of sick puppies or does not have them vet checked, UTD on shots, wormings etc. I will be checking references, the home where the puppies are raised, speaking with their vet, seeeing the puppies parents etc.

I am just looking for a companion and furbaby to love, not a guarantee that the dog is going to be an absolute perfect specimen of the breed.

Brooklynn 01-19-2011 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3399029)
Replacement pup is hogwash. A refund to assist in medical bills is the only thing a reputable breeder would do.

Absolutely correct!

jcoulter1181 01-19-2011 07:30 AM

I keep trying to post but for some reason they are not going thru:confused: trying again...

to the poster above, she does say that if at any time you can not or do not want to care for the dog anymore to bring it back to her.

Also IMO no one can guarantee 100% that a puppy will not develope some sort of health problem that will cost the owner money. When buying a new member of the family I fully take into account that they are going to cost me money just like a real baby would. I don't require a money back guarantee, I am buying a living breathing being-not a pair of shoes;)

Obviously I would not buy from a breeder who has a history of sick puppies, does not get them vet checked, UTD on shots wormings, etc. I will be visiting the home, meeting the pups parents, speaking with references, and also the vet they use. I am looking for a companion and a friend, not an absolute perfect specimen of the breed or one with a lifetime guarantee:D I don't believe that everyone on this forum would agree on every breeder 100%...everyone has different opions and different standards.

Thanks everyone for your feedback.

Mardelin 01-19-2011 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jcoulter1181 (Post 3399051)
I keep trying to post but for some reason they are not going thru:confused: trying again...

to the poster above, she does say that if at any time you can not or do not want to care for the dog anymore to bring it back to her.

Also IMO no one can guarantee 100% that a puppy will not develope some sort of health problem that will cost the owner money. When buying a new member of the family I fully take into account that they are going to cost me money just like a real baby would. I don't require a money back guarantee, I am buying a living breathing being-not a pair of shoes;)

Obviously I would not buy from a breeder who has a history of sick puppies, does not get them vet checked, UTD on shots wormings, etc. I will be visiting the home, meeting the pups parents, speaking with references, and also the vet they use. I am looking for a companion and a friend, not an absolute perfect specimen of the breed or one with a lifetime guarantee:D I don't believe that everyone on this forum would agree on every breeder 100%...everyone has different opions and different standards.

Thanks everyone for your feedback.

You're right no one can guarantee 100% that a pup will not get sick. However, it is how a breeder handles a situation that seperates the good from the questionable. Guarantee should reflect a time line for congential life threatening disease, usually 1 year but, 2 is better. The contract should also reflect full refund so that the new puppy owner can obtain proper medical treatment. It is a breeder's responsibility to stand behind their breeding. After all they brought the pup into the world and that is a big responsibility.
It's understood that you are looking for a companion, however, if a breeder is not breeding to improve the breed and does not put that in the forefront of her breeding...then they shouldn't be breeding. Agreed that no one would agree 100% on a breeder, but there are guidelines as to what makes a reputable breeder.

As I stated before, go do a meet and greet, address your questions to the breeder.

Let me add that by what you posted, you appear that the pup you obtain will be in excellent hands. We as breeders always hope that is what we will find for each of our pups, reponsible, loving homes.

Furbaby Friend 01-19-2011 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jcoulter1181 (Post 3398953)
Thanks for the welcome! I have been reading on this forum for a couple of weeks now and did decide that a yorkie is the right dog for me so I decided to go ahead and join before I even got my furbaby:)

I am researching everything I can about the breed before I pick a new baby and bring it home, I want to make sure I have everything I need and am armed with as much knowledge as possible to make sure my new baby has everything it needs and that I am able to give it the proper care.

This forum has been a wonderful source of information so far!

I recommend the book Yorkshire Terriers for Dummies if you want the basics on how to prep/care for your new baby. It was very helpful and informative to me, plus it is info all in one spot. I'm sure they have it at libraries if you don't want to purchase it! It was a really great purchase for me. Good luck in your search!

Mindync 01-19-2011 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3399033)
Knowledgable about one's breeding practices does not mean your experience in purchasing a puppy went well. Does she test her breeding dogs, are pups tested prior to releasing them to their new homes. The fact that she only replaces a pup does not fare well.

Will she take a dog back should an owner no longer be able to care for it. Insist on conducting the rehoming process......

Yes. Yes. and Yes. Not only WILL she take the dog back- she requires it. We can not ever place Lucy in another home.

I have posted here since we got Spicy 4 years ago and I always end up leaving for long periods of time because of things just like this. A few people seem to know it all...the rest of us don't matter and we certainly don't have any knowledge to offer.

DvlshAngel985 01-19-2011 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mindync (Post 3399449)
Yes. Yes. and Yes. Not only WILL she take the dog back- she requires it. We can not ever place Lucy in another home.

I have posted here since we got Spicy 4 years ago and I always end up leaving for long periods of time because of things just like this. A few people seem to know it all...the rest of us don't matter and we certainly don't have any knowledge to offer.

I don't think the responses had anything to do with your situation per say. I posted a general question, to help get answers, which Mardelin, Brooklyn, and the others responded to. I didn't know the answer and thought a potential puppy buyer would like to know what to look for.

No one is knocking down your breeder. They're responding to a question, giving food for thought for all, and giving everyone in general insight as to what would be something to look for. That's it.

Mardelin 01-19-2011 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mindync (Post 3399449)
Yes. Yes. and Yes. Not only WILL she take the dog back- she requires it. We can not ever place Lucy in another home.

I have posted here since we got Spicy 4 years ago and I always end up leaving for long periods of time because of things just like this. A few people seem to know it all...the rest of us don't matter and we certainly don't have any knowledge to offer.

The OP asked the membership if there were any red flags. As a breeder/exhibitors, several of us did.

I stated to you that it was great that you had a wonderful experience, as a pet buyer. As several of us that offerred advice are exhibitor/breeders and gave our input from that stand point. What should be in a contract. The most important thing in the contract is to protect the pup, it's not about protecting the breeder or the new puppy owner.

Now the OP will have to make their own decison based on what on the information provided. But, keep in mind input has been provided to others, and they've opted not to take advice and have come back on the forum with horror stories and requesting help.

Nancy1999 01-19-2011 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mindync (Post 3399449)
Yes. Yes. and Yes. Not only WILL she take the dog back- she requires it. We can not ever place Lucy in another home.

I have posted here since we got Spicy 4 years ago and I always end up leaving for long periods of time because of things just like this. A few people seem to know it all...the rest of us don't matter and we certainly don't have any knowledge to offer.

I'm glad you are happy with your breeder; I do think your feedback is important, and you do have knowledge to offer, especially since you've owned the dog for over a year. However, I think you may be reading Mardelin's post's too harshly, if she really thought the breeder was a bad one, she wouldn't have said this:

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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3398111)
. . .I suggest that you take a trip to the breeders home, a meet and greet.
. . .

and this:
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3399106)
. . .As I stated before, go do a meet and greet, address your questions to the breeder.

. . .


jcoulter1181 01-19-2011 03:03 PM

I certainly didn't mean to get a debate going:(

I thank everyone for their opinions, I know they only way I can know for certain is by visiting the breeder in person so I guess that is my next step.

Thanks all.

Mardelin 01-19-2011 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jcoulter1181 (Post 3399519)
I certainly didn't mean to get a debate going:(

I thank everyone for their opinions, I know they only way I can know for certain is by visiting the breeder in person so I guess that is my next step.

Thanks all.

Good Luck, hope all goes well for you and your prospective new pup.


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