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DNA testing??? Does anyone know if DNA testing through AKC can be done to obtain registration papers? I have been to the site but am unclear on the DNA process. If the parents of a pup are registered with AKC, can the pup be DNA tested to obtain registration papers? If anyone who has experience in the area could shed some light, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks in advance. :aimeeyorkYorkieProud:aimeeyork |
Did your breeder not give you AKC Paper when you bought the puppy? Your best way to get AKC papers is through the breeder, if the parents are AKC registered. |
Don't the sellers of the pup have to sign the registration papers? Some breeders will only sell on a limited registration, some sell without registration papers for their "pet quality" pups. Someone more experienced will probably be along to answer, but I would think that DNA testing wouldn't be enough to register a pup with AKC. Otherwise there would be nothing to stop the new owner from registering a pup that was purposely sold without registration papers or limited registration to register the pup. |
Emma is almost 3 years old. When I purchased her (as a pup), the breeder mailed her papers to the wrong address. Shortly after this, the breeder became ill and has since passed. I have had no luck with contact of the family members to obtain the proper paperwork for her. To be honest, I feel bad about contacting them, since their family member has passed. Emma has been altered and cannot be bred. Having her registered is not a great issue, but I would like to know about her lineage. I know this should have been done prior to purchasing her, but this was when I was naive about the breed. Thank you for the responses I have received thus far. :aimeeyorkYorkieProud:aimeeyork |
Do you know her birthdate and the names of her sire and dam? |
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Do you know anyone who has a litter mate? They would have information regarding the litter. You might be able to trace the litter by the breeders name and date of litter birth....but DNA tests are much more costly then the regular $40 DNA. |
I am afraid you are going to run into a brick wall without cooperation from the owner (or their heirs) of the litter that your dog was a part of. The registration application must be signed by both the litter owner AND the new puppy owner. If you are not interested in breeding, I don't understand worrying about registration or lineage. You could call the AKC and tell them your delimma. They may have an idea for you. For instance, if you know the breeders name and the date of birth for your dog's litter, they may be able to track down what dog belonging to the owner, had a litter on that date. I am not sure if they give that information out without proof that you have a littermate. I can't see what it would hurt, if you were just tracking lineage, but I'm not the AKC. Some people and organizations are very private about their records of any kind. If you truly want to do this, you are probably going to have to contact the heirs to the original litter owner's estate. Perhaps they still have her breeding records and could give you the information over the phone. |
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All a DNA test would do would verify the dam and sire of the pup, nothing more. Even then, all three dogs would have to be tested. It does nothing in regards to allowing you an avenue to register the dog. |
If you have the information of a full littermate..you simply get the parents AKC numbers, date of litter and buy a pedigree from AKC...or a better yet a pedigree service...they are usually cheaper...the pedigree is the same for all littermates...same as human brothers and sisters. PS...my understanding is the OP not interested in AKC papers, but the dogs line...thus a pedigree is what she wants...perhaps the DR has a pedigree for the sister and it can be copied... |
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If she mailed them they will have your pedigree on file. Call akc, give them her name with the story. Was she an ethical breeder? Many unethical breeders lie about why they don't give them to you in the first place. They are never sent in. That's common. How long ago did she die? Do you remember her name? You could look in the YT archives or post here to see if she tried to sell from that liter. It would be posted there. |
AKC DNA testing is used to verify parentage in the event that parentage is disputed (that's my understanding). It's not used to prove or disprove whether or not a dog is pure-bred or to locate parents or anything. I would call the AKC. Because of the death of the breeder, there may be something they can do to help you out - you know the name of the breeder and the birth date of your Yorkie. They could easily locate the litter registration (assuming the litter was registered) and then duplicate your application - and, signatures aren't needed if you register online using the PIN number on the registration application. |
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