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Woogie Man 06-21-2010 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3170685)
Betty, Is on her way to the vet. She's very concerned with the 2nd puppy, to the point she can't focus. I had her check the pups hydration, and it is dehydrated. A sub-Q may help this pup survive, maybe not.
Isn't it unusual for a pup to dehydrate right after being born? It couldn't be more than a couple hours since this baby was living in water. Could it be that this pup didn't get the pre-natal nutrition the others did?

I know Betty has a heating pad and I had her set it up last night. It's one of those that isn't adjustable and I have no idea how hot they get. I did tell her to not put the pups directly on the surface of it but to use a towel or something between the pad and pups.

It's so hard to know exactly what's going on when you're not there in person.

Will be checking back for an update....praying things go well in the meantime.

Mardelin 06-21-2010 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Woogie Man (Post 3170807)
Isn't it unusual for a pup to dehydrate right after being born? It couldn't be more than a couple hours since this baby was living in water. Could it be that this pup didn't get the pre-natal nutrition the others did?

I know Betty has a heating pad and I had her set it up last night. It's one of those that isn't adjustable and I have no idea how hot they get. I did tell her to not put the pups directly on the surface of it but to use a towel or something between the pad and pups.

It's so hard to know exactly what's going on when you're not there in person.

Will be checking back for an update....praying things go well in the meantime.
From my premature litter last August, I had one that dehydrated very fast. I sub-Q'd nothing worked, I lost the pup. It's my guess that with this long drawn out whelp the pup dehydrated during the whelping process. She mentioned a yellowish fluid in it's mouth and the tongue hanging out. From what she described, I don't think the pup was right.

Woogie Man 06-21-2010 10:57 AM
That's sad to hear. Did she ever mention how many pups were expected or if Baby Girl seemed to be done?

Mardelin 06-21-2010 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Woogie Man (Post 3170825)
That's sad to hear. Did she ever mention how many pups were expected or if Baby Girl seemed to be done?
She had Baby Girl x-rayed and it showed 4. She was working on the 3rd when I talked to her last.

Brooklynn 06-21-2010 11:10 AM
Keep up the good work guys! Awesome job! Never let anyone tell you guys this isn't worth it!!! You guys keep up with what your doing on this site! It's things like this that makes it worth it!! Don't let anyone tell you otherwise!!

GREAT JOB to everyone!!

Donna

Woogie Man 06-21-2010 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3170829)
She had Baby Girl x-rayed and it showed 4. She was working on the 3rd when I talked to her last.
I hope the stress of being taken to the vet doesn't cause Baby Girl to halt her labor. She had quite a time getting it going in the first place.

I know that with our first child, my wife got so upset with the staff at the hospital that she got dressed and stormed out....had me take her to a hospital 2 hours away. She was in full labor and it completely stopped. Amazing what stress and emotions can do to the body.

myblustreak 06-21-2010 11:15 AM
I sent her a pm also I live about 50 miles from her. If she is already at the vets office i hope the last puppy will be text book as well. Meanwhile i'll set here like the rest of you and wait for news...... praying everyone is healthy and safe.

Carmen

gemy 06-21-2010 11:15 AM
I just got back to this thread. Mary and Jim and all who helped out ... great job.

Just a word of caution for those new to breeding, please don't rely on the experienced breeders always being around on this internet system. That would be not be wise.

I am so very happy that Mary was here and also Jim. Thanks so much for all that you do.

For those new to breeding, it is simply priceless to have a mentor present for your first whelp.

Keeping fingers and toes crossed for the mom and pups.

need to go back to work

Mardelin 06-21-2010 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Woogie Man (Post 3170841)
I hope the stress of being taken to the vet doesn't cause Baby Girl to halt her labor. She had quite a time getting it going in the first place.

I know that with our first child, my wife got so upset with the staff at the hospital that she got dressed and stormed out....had me take her to a hospital 2 hours away. She was in full labor and it completely stopped. Amazing what stress and emotions can do to the body.
Me too. But, with Betty's inexperience I think it was the best place for her to be.

Mardelin 06-21-2010 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by gemy (Post 3170846)
I just got back to this thread. Mary and Jim and all who helped out ... great job.

Just a word of caution for those new to breeding, please don't rely on the experienced breeders always being around on this internet system. That would be not be wise.

I am so very happy that Mary was here and also Jim. Thanks so much for all that you do.

For those new to breeding, it is simply priceless to have a mentor present for your first whelp.

Keeping fingers and toes crossed for the mom and pups.

need to go back to work
From talking to Betty this was an oops. Her only fault is taking advise from an inept vet.

Woogie Man 06-21-2010 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by gemy (Post 3170846)
Just a word of caution for those new to breeding, please don't rely on the experienced breeders always being around on this internet system. That would be not be wise.
I would add that relying on someone on the internet is never the way to go. It's so very hard to get a clear picture of what's going on without being there. It's not an ideal situation and is difficult to advise someone under those circumstances.

This is just one of those situations where the advice the OP had been given by her vet was poor and she was very unprepared. She simply didn't know just how much she needed to know. Another very good example of why a mentor is needed with these babies.

All would-be breeders can take a lesson from this. I know it can be difficult to understand how involved breeding Yorkshire Terriers can be. It is not the same as with other breeds, though preparedness and knowledge are important with breeding any dog. It is essential in the case of Yorkies and the lack of research, preparation and an experienced mentor can easily lead to tragedy.

Like all the others, I'm praying for a great outcome in this situation. I hope everyone pulls together and gives Betty the support she'll need in caring for these babies. No matter whose house they're in, they're all "our" Yorkies :).

Brooklynn 06-21-2010 11:49 AM
Anxiously awaiting the outcome!! This is why I hardly ever have litters! I still get so nervous! Give me the show ring anytime over the whelping box!!!
Praying for healthy and safe momma and babies and one exhausted new human mommy!

Donna

Judyest 06-21-2010 12:10 PM
Wow - now I know why I am not a breeder. Good job folks!! And, I certainly have oodles of respect for my breeder friends! I certainly pray that everything is good for mom & babies.

Rhetts_mama 06-21-2010 12:19 PM
I've been watching this thread since yesterday. Has anyone heard from the OP since she got to the vets?

maggiesmom_2007 06-21-2010 12:46 PM
Jim and Mary, Kudos and hugs to you both.


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