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capt_noonie 05-05-2010 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by mommadog1 (Post 3115442)
Elle, are you a breeder? The vet does not have to do it. This is common practice for breeders. This is after all the breeders forum and we can teach these things even over the internet.

It's ok that you don't agree, but you really have no right to tell people what they can or cannot do. She asked for help and it was given to her. I personally walked her through it OFF thread. You shouldn't call her crazy, that just isn't right.

There is another thread (I posted the link) and nobody had a problem when that poster asked.
What does it matter if she's a breeder or not? I'm not a breeder either, and yes this is the breeders forum, but I read this section to gain more knowledge. What have I learned from this thread? Another reason why I would never breed. And yes I know this is common practice for experienced breeders to do on their own. I would think that a reputable breeder would not coach someone over the net on something as serious as this for a first timer.

Leesha 05-05-2010 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by capt_noonie (Post 3115806)
Ok wait, I'm a bit confused, so let me try to get this right. The very first time you did dew claws yourself you had no one to help or tell you how to do it other than a book and youtube? If that's right, that's downright scary.

OP,
What I'm saying is, something like removing dewclaws by yourself without any prior knowledge, is freaking crazy. Trimming the nails already freaks me out enough. I am NOT saying that breeders who have been taught how to do it correctly by their vet or mentor should not do it themselves, but for people that are doing it for the first time ever and not trained on how to do it? Do you really have no other option than to do it yourself? You couldn't at least called your vet and run it by him? You'd prefer to get advice from a complete stranger on the net? If you seriously think that's fine, then well I can't change your mind. I guess you just have a stronger stomach than me. I don't even want to watch the vid, I am so close to barfing right now just thinking about it.
Yes that is how I learned. The same way I learned how to assist my yorkie when she is in delivery and I wasn't scard one bit!!! :)

Would I do a csection on my own dog? No that is foolish and I have no experience here as that is a full surgery. However clamping and doing there tails was no problem at all.

Bloodless of course...can you stomach that? Go look at the dew claws on my web page. They are remove and pictures there of the claws. :)

It helps to learn and continue learning as I move on in life...

capt_noonie 05-05-2010 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Leesha (Post 3115820)
Yes that is how I learned. The same way I learned how to assist my yorkie when she is in delivery and I wasn't scard one bit!!! :)

Would I do a csection on my own dog? No that is foolish and I have no experience here as that is a full surgery. However clamping and doing there tails was no problem at all.

Bloodless of course...can you stomach that? Go look at the dew claws on my web page. They are remove and pictures there of the claws. :)

It helps to learn and continue learning as I move on in life...
Then i say to you wow. Blood or no blood, I feel faint. Even when just trimming nails.

However, there was a person on here once who said they would do a c section for 50 bucks (if I remember correctly).

Nancy1999 05-05-2010 11:57 AM
I just think it's important to remember that many groups would like to see breeding rights done away with, and if there is any chance something could go wrong with this type of procedure, it might be best to privately PM the person, so that you know exactly if the person has understood the proper procedure. I've read so many times that the dewclaws have grown back, so I know the procedure isn't foolproof. Also, if they have to have the dewclaws removed as an adult it's much more serious. There have also been numerous threads of dogs ripping off dewclaws after they got snagged on something, again, this could be dangerous, and very painful. So, unless a person does it right, the dewclaw has a very good chance of causing later problems, although I'm not sure some breeders care about this.

Leesha 05-05-2010 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3115869)
I just think it's important to remember that many groups would like to see breeding rights done away with, and if there is any chance something could go wrong with this type of procedure, it might be best to privately PM the person, so that you know exactly if the person has understood the proper procedure. I've read so many times that the dewclaws have grown back, so I know the procedure isn't foolproof. Also, if they have to have the dewclaws removed as an adult it's much more serious. There have also been numerous threads of dogs ripping off dewclaws after they got snagged on something, again, this could be dangerous, and very painful. So, unless a person does it right, the dewclaw has a very good chance of causing later problems, although I'm not sure some breeders care about this.
I have a Yorkie whose dew claws were never removed and he broke them getting it hooked on his bed. Now they just hang there. I have to get it lasered off. It is sad but must be done.

All this could have been avoided if they were removed when he was a puppy. for some reason the breeder left the back dew claws and only did the front claws.

mommadog1 05-05-2010 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by capt_noonie (Post 3115813)
What does it matter if she's a breeder or not? I'm not a breeder either, and yes this is the breeders forum, but I read this section to gain more knowledge. What have I learned from this thread? Another reason why I would never breed. And yes I know this is common practice for experienced breeders to do on their own. I would think that a reputable breeder would not coach someone over the net on something as serious as this for a first timer.
Your opinion is noted.

Nancy1999 05-05-2010 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Leesha (Post 3115883)
I have a Yorkie whose dew claws were never removed and he broke them getting it hooked on his bed. Now they just hang there. I have to get it lasered off. It is sad but must be done.

All this could have been avoided if they were removed when he was a puppy. for some reason the breeder left the back dew claws and only did the front claws.
Probably wanted to save $38.00, now you'll have to pay so much more, and it will be painful for the dog, but less painful than having them constantly torn. I've heard great things about laser surgery if a doctor is experienced with this procedure. The healing time is said to be shorter. Hope he didn't just read about it on the Internet! :D

YorkieRose 05-05-2010 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by capt_noonie (Post 3115847)
Then i say to you wow. Blood or no blood, I feel faint. Even when just trimming nails.

However, there was a person on here once who said they would do a c section for 50 bucks (if I remember correctly).
There are people who are not suited for breeding and it is good they do not breed..and frankly I do not feel a non=breeder should offer an opinion on these subjects...I realize it is a free country and all can express opinions..but I do not express opinions on a subject I know nothing about..

mommadog1 05-05-2010 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by YorkieRose (Post 3115896)
There are people who are not suited for breeding and it is good they do not breed..and frankly I do not feel a non=breeder should offer an opinion on these subjects...I realize it is a free country and all can express opinions..but I do not express opinions on a subject I know nothing about..
Ditto!:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

Nancy1999 05-05-2010 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by YorkieRose (Post 3115896)
There are people who are not suited for breeding and it is good they do not breed..and frankly I do not feel a non=breeder should offer an opinion on these subjects...I realize it is a free country and all can express opinions..but I do not express opinions on a subject I know nothing about..
I have so much respect for you, but I do think non-breeders can have opinions on certain matters. Many non-breeders read all sorts of threads and we are very aware of the fact that many breeders here have a very tough time with their reading comprehension skills. Not that long ago we found out that one breeder who was giving advice was an 11 year old girl, granted she was smarter than many breeders we have here, but unless this procedure is really foolproof a PM might be better, many breeders will now attempt it, just to save money.

capt_noonie 05-05-2010 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by YorkieRose (Post 3115896)
There are people who are not suited for breeding and it is good they do not breed..and frankly I do not feel a non=breeder should offer an opinion on these subjects...I realize it is a free country and all can express opinions..but I do not express opinions on a subject I know nothing about..
Your opinion is noted.

Leesha 05-05-2010 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3115895)
Probably wanted to save $38.00, now you'll have to pay so much more, and it will be painful for the dog, but less painful than having them constantly torn. I've heard great things about laser surgery if a doctor is experienced with this procedure. The healing time is said to be shorter. Hope he didn't just read about it on the Internet! :D
Well like I said before a major surgery need the care of a profession. This is in no way major.

Dew claws and tails are as easy to remove as nail clipping.

Remember I'm the one who sued my vet so I think I know what I'm doing. Don't need the thoughts of others to try and discourage.

Hope the OP has enough information from those who have done this before. Hope that video helps you as it helped me.:)

capt_noonie 05-05-2010 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3115916)
I have so much respect for you, but I do think non-breeders can have opinions on certain matters. Many non-breeders read all sorts of threads and we are very aware of the fact that many breeders here have a very tough time with their reading comprehension skills. Not that long ago we found out that one breeder who was giving advice was an 11 year old girl, granted she was smarter than many breeders we have here, but unless this procedure is really foolproof a PM might be better, many breeders will now attempt it, just to save money.
ditto!

Elle 05-05-2010 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by capt_noonie (Post 3115917)
Your opinion is noted.
I am a breeder. Most people know I am one.

Mardelin 05-05-2010 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Elle (Post 3116081)
I am a breeder. Most people know I am one.
I watched video.....and as an exhibitor breeder found fault with it. I've never had a pup cry as much as this one. A squeek maybe, but if doing it correctly, this does not happen. Also, giving faulty information of cutting the tail at the brown spot is incorrect, you are docking the tail too short.

Removing dew claws, my pups don't even squeek. There are subelties that one learns when being taught by a vet and a mentor, that keeps the stress to a minimum.


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