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miabellaamoure 04-11-2010 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by WinstonMom (Post 3080066)
Yes, this person wanted a pup "after she got back from holidays on her first day back to work". She actually asked if I did have pups would I hold on to one a little longer so she could take her vacation. I would actually consider letting a pup go up to a week early so someone would have their vacation to spend with their new pup instead of getting the new pup and going straight to work. Also, she spoke as if she were talking to a department store where she could just order what she wanted, when she wanted. Sadly, I cannot wave a magic wand and conjure up a girl pup for July 15. She then proceeded to tell me that she would spend the last couple of days of her vacation setting up a place in the basement for her new pup.

Audrey
I also have had applicants specify a date they'd be ready for adoption...but, thankfully most have been for when they'd be "on" vacation in order to have the time to help their lil' one transition into their new home.

kjcmsw 04-11-2010 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Woogie Man (Post 3080044)
I think the person Audrey is referring to wanted the pup after their vacation, when they were returning to work. It seems like they didn't want a new pup to interfere with their vacation.
Ah, I see. I must have misread or misunderstood the post. Sorry. Yeah, vacation time seems like the best time for someone who works to bring their new puppy home, give it time to adjust. I would have like to think they'd taken that time for the new pup. Of course, we're not great vacationers/travelers so "not" going off somewhere doesn't seem like any big loss to me, thus maybe I just can't relate to the importance of it.
~KC

TwoforFun 04-11-2010 07:13 PM
I had never had a dog before my maltese so I had no clue whatsoever. I did my research on the breed itself and nothing more. So one of my first questions would be, how much? And I probably asked more than one stupid question. I would have like so much for one breeder to give me a few seconds of their time to give me a small lecture on how and why. To atleast direct me to websites where there's more than color and weight of a dog. I used to think a dog was just a pet and now I'm totally an animal lover.
Ok yeah there are some stupid people out there but hanging up on how much? that is plain rude. That's why there's still backyard breeders.

Mardelin 04-11-2010 07:19 PM
Just got this inquiry. As I said before, you can only obtain my info from the YTCA breeder referral list. So, I'm hoping this person didn't send out a mass e-mail to all California breeders listed. This person didn't even have the grace to sign her e-mail

Hello. I am looking for a female baby Bichon Yorkie. Preferably cream color raised in a home with potty training and some obedience training if possible. Please email me back if you have any that meet what I am looking for now or soon. Thank you.

Mardelin 04-11-2010 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TwoforFun (Post 3081033)
I had never had a dog before my maltese so I had no clue whatsoever. I did my research on the breed itself and nothing more. So one of my first questions would be, how much? And I probably asked more than one stupid question. I would have like so much for one breeder to give me a few seconds of their time to give me a small lecture on how and why. To atleast direct me to websites where there's more than color and weight of a dog. I used to think a dog was just a pet and now I'm totally an animal lover.
Ok yeah there are some stupid people out there but hanging up on how much? that is plain rude. That's why there's still backyard breeders.
Let me explain a bit. Breeders take offense when people's first and foremost question is how much? We view it as that is their only concern. Not that one shouldn't be concerned, it is a major purchase. But, most of us that breed to improve the breed, feel that a person's first concern should be about us as a breeder. The health of the dogs and puppies. If we hear the first words out of a potential clients mouth are "how much" we feel they are bargin shopping....

Nancy1999 04-11-2010 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3081042)
Just got this inquiry. As I said before, you can only obtain my info from the YTCA breeder referral list. So, I'm hoping this person didn't send out a mass e-mail to all California breeders listed. This person didn't even have the grace to sign her e-mail

Hello. I am looking for a female baby Bichon Yorkie. Preferably cream color raised in a home with potty training and some obedience training if possible. Please email me back if you have any that meet what I am looking for now or soon. Thank you.
Perhaps you should email her back and see if she wants more of a buttery cream color or a taupe cream color? :D

Mardelin 04-11-2010 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3081050)
Perhaps you should email her back and see if she wants more of a buttery cream color or a taupe cream color? :D
I should have....where are you when I need you.

but this was how I responded:

To whom it may concern:

Thanks for the inquiry. Since you’ve contacted me, you’ve obtained my information from the Yorkshire Terrier Club of America. I truly hope you have not contacted any other members on that list. As none of us would ever dream of cross breeding Yorkies. We only breed to improve the Yorkshire Terrier Breed. Let me further state, no reputable breeder would ever cross breed.

I would strongly suggest you look at small breed rescues and/or shelters.

Regards,
Mary Lundgren

Nancy1999 04-11-2010 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3081055)
I should have....where are you when I need you.

but this was how I responded:

To whom it may concern:

Thanks for the inquiry. Since you’ve contacted me, you’ve obtained my information from the Yorkshire Terrier Club of America. I truly hope you have not contacted any other members on that list. As none of us would ever dream of cross breeding Yorkies. We only breed to improve the Yorkshire Terrier Breed. Let me further state, no reputable breeder would ever cross breed.

I would strongly suggest you look at small breed rescues and/or shelters.

Regards,
Mary Lundgren

Great letter!

TwoforFun 04-11-2010 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3081049)
Let me explain a bit. Breeders take offense when people's first and foremost question is how much? We view it as that is their only concern. Not that one shouldn't be concerned, it is a major purchase. But, most of us that breed to improve the breed, feel that a person's first concern should be about us as a breeder. The health of the dogs and puppies. If we hear the first words out of a potential clients mouth are "how much" we feel they are bargin shopping....
I fully understand now, and I know how frustruating it can be for you breeders. But yes I was looking for a bargain back then but if someone would have explain or directed me I wouln't have bought my first pup from who knows what that was. I don't regret it but I feel terrible I contribute to that.

Mardelin 04-11-2010 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TwoforFun (Post 3081063)
I fully understand now, and I know how frustruating it can be for you breeders. But yes I was looking for a bargain back then but if someone would have explain or directed me I wouln't have bought my first pup from who knows what that was. I don't regret it but I feel terrible I contribute to that.
Very few puppy buyers are educated on how to go about their search for a reputable breeder. You see it everyday on YT. We all live and learn by our mistakes....

The majority of people don't know what is available to them. It's based on the old days. You bought a dog or found a dog and never expected much from the breeder. Things have evolved so much. Even those that we know have the money to spend, like celebrities....where do they go, bybers, pet stores, puppy mills, what do they buy, designer dogs.....

WinstonMom 04-11-2010 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TwoforFun (Post 3081033)
I had never had a dog before my maltese so I had no clue whatsoever. I did my research on the breed itself and nothing more. So one of my first questions would be, how much? And I probably asked more than one stupid question. I would have like so much for one breeder to give me a few seconds of their time to give me a small lecture on how and why. To atleast direct me to websites where there's more than color and weight of a dog. I used to think a dog was just a pet and now I'm totally an animal lover.
Ok yeah there are some stupid people out there but hanging up on how much? that is plain rude. That's why there's still backyard breeders.

This thread was just meant for fun to share some of the silly questions that people ask. I do, however, spend a lot of time with my potential puppy owners, first contact is usually by phone and I have been known to spend hours talking to people, educating them, telling them the pros and cons of owning a yorkie, my goal is to find forever homes, so I need to make sure that potential owners know what they are getting into and that they are not wanting a pup on impulse. I always suggest reading material on the breed and will email them information on the breed. Some of the best owners of my babies are people that have never had a yorkie or even a dog before.
It is just that you usually get a gut-feeling about people the first time you talk to them and I just go with my instincts.

Audrey

yorkielady06 04-12-2010 06:06 AM
I posted in general about a perspective puppy buyer.. Short version..
6 months ago spent 2 hours with her on the phone, and 3 hours in person. Decided to do more homework. Fast forward to yesterday comes and wants a tiny pup (male or female) to breed a teacup. Wants to know if a "teacup" can be bred to a Yorkie and register pups:mad:. And that a friend has a "teacup" that is 8 months old and needs sugar all the time or acts drunk. I politely...well as polite as I could under the stress;)...let her know that these pups are no longer for sale..she then tells me she just got her tax money and wants one...duh!!

Mardelin 04-12-2010 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by yorkielady06 (Post 3081351)
I posted in general about a perspective puppy buyer.. Short version..
6 months ago spent 2 hours with her on the phone, and 3 hours in person. Decided to do more homework. Fast forward to yesterday comes and wants a tiny pup (male or female) to breed a teacup. Wants to know if a "teacup" can be bred to a Yorkie and register pups:mad:. And that a friend has a "teacup" that is 8 months old and needs sugar all the time or acts drunk. I politely...well as polite as I could under the stress;)...let her know that these pups are no longer for sale..she then tells me she just got her tax money and wants one...duh!!
Best way to take care of someone such as this. Is educate them, tell them your pups are only sold on a spay/nueter contract.....Oh! you'll get a lot of flack...but, in the end who cares, the pups remain in your home, waiting for that perfect home.

yorkielady06 04-12-2010 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3081375)
Best way to take care of someone such as this. Is educate them, tell them your pups are only sold on a spay/nueter contract.....Oh! you'll get a lot of flack...but, in the end who cares, the pups remain in your home, waiting for that perfect home.
Oh I have spent many hours educating this person. I did tell her my spay/neuter policy and she just basically acted like if she had the money that I should just sell her a dog... well these are not "dogs":D . I think I spent my time talking to a person who is just going to buy a dog from someone else and breed no matter what I say. You just cannot fix stupid I guess :( and I feel bad for the puppy she does end up purchasing...

Mardelin 04-12-2010 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by yorkielady06 (Post 3081388)
Oh I have spent many hours educating this person. I did tell her my spay/neuter policy and she just basically acted like if she had the money that I should just sell her a dog... well these are not "dogs":D . I think I spent my time talking to a person who is just going to buy a dog from someone else and breed no matter what I say. You just cannot fix stupid I guess :( and I feel bad for the puppy she does end up purchasing...
Nope we can\'t police the world and we can\'t fix stupid......and be glad that puppy she gets is not one of yours.

You know there\'s a list of Ripoff breeders, AKC suspension lists. There should be a list for bad buyers that breeders can go to.....I know we screen very carefully, but it would be nice if breeders had such a list.


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