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Coat Textures Can someone give me good descriptions, or better yet pictures of the different coat textures: Wiry, woolly, cottony and silky? I would like to better understand the difference. Is one more desirable than the others, and at what age can you tell which they might be? Thank you! :) |
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Then you can get into a modified silk or a soft coat textures...but again it's so left up to interputation as to what others will tell you. This is all how I interpute the textures :) Donna |
Brooklynn, great post. I always said Derby had a cotton coat, but my husband would argue he had a silky coat. I, of course, felt I was right but after posting pictures on the board people are now telling me his hair looks silky. All be darned that a YT'er can see that from a picture on a short haired Yorkie! lol! You guys really are the best at what you do :) |
If you go to a hobby shop and get some embroidery thread, buy two types (wool and silk). Then take a few strands of each. Now wrap them tightly around your finger. See how the wool one looks - broken and frayed? And the silk one is smooth and shiny. That is how to tell the difference with a yorkie's coat - to label the texture. An old mentor told me this and I have heard it ever since. It works pretty well to understand it. A wooly or cottony coat will have a wave in it too when it is just washed and you are blowing out the coat. You will see lines that go against the coat. I hope this helps. It is so hard to tell for sure in photos. A silky coat will also feel and look like a satin ribbon - like girls wear in their hair when young. It will hang straight down, where a cotton coat is fuller and is puffy and won't shine as much if not at all. I hope this has helped. :) |
1 Attachment(s) P.S. Darby is still young and he may end up with a silky coat. You just will not know forsure till he is older. I found my girl's photo of her coat. Now this is just a quick shot of her - very casual. Not show pose or anything like that. She is not even brushed all out her. But her coat is super silky. She is also a champion. Maybe her photo might help in some way. |
I read in the book the Joy of Breeding your own show dog and Ann Searne explained this when looking at a puppy coat...the hair on the legs will be sparse and thin on a silky coat and a pup with puffy and full hair on the legs will usually turn out a cotton or a soft coat. I have found that to be true. Just like the light test in the eyes when you take their picture...if in the picture the eyes are green ( I think LOL ) you'll have a silky coat and if the eyes are red a soft to a cotton coat. Again, it's all up to interputation....what I would call a modified silk coat someone else will say it's pure silk and what I call a soft coat someone will say it's a modified silk...LOL...I can pick the faults in my own dogs and tell ya but some just won't admit to what they have....again it's all in interputation.. Donna |
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TopKnot -- VERY BEAUTIFUL!!! |
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Topknot--- thank you, thank you, thank you...... I have thought Joey was a silkie but never could find a shampoo to make his hair shine.. He is very soft and his hair is longer and thinner than my friends who has a wire haired yorkie. But when you described the thread differences, I now know he is a wooly coat. He has long hair but it lookes like he has alot of frayed hairs... Very helpful... and to the OP, thank you!!!! this is a very good post.... |
Back to part of the OP's original questions, which I don't think anyone has addressed: How old are they (generally) before you can tell what their adult coat texture will be? |
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Thank you folks. This has been most interesting. So can I safely assume that most if not all breeders who show will sell cottonly coat Yorkies as pets? Edited to ask what percentage, approximately, is silky verses cottony? |
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Silky is the preferred textured coat you want but some will produce a cotton coat so if one is breeding correctly one should be producing silk coats with an occasional cotton or wired but again, breeding correctly, a silky coat should be the highest percentage....but that's not always the case... Donna |
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If you look at pictures 30 - 40 years ago, cotton coated dogs were being Championed and those that began way back when we need to pay homage too, as they are the ones that took breeding earnestly, developing the breed to the silk coats of today. |
Hello, as I am brand new to Yorkie Talk and also a first time Yorkie owner, I am still learning so much about this breed. I still have questions about the Yorkie hair. I have a 6 month old and right now I would call her a cotton coat from the descriptions I have read. But yet her legs are sparse amount of hair, color is a reddish color and it seems to be straight and silky with some cotton in it. Her head is straight, silky and has some cotton undercoat as well. But her body is wavy and seems to be cottony with sparse whites or greys noticeable when you part her hair. Would she be more of a cotton or will she eventually turn to a silky? When does their hair start changing, what age is the most visible transition at what age is the final transition? Sorry so many questions, but really excited to see what type of hair she'll have. |
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Is it possible for you to upload a picture.....it can help, but, unless one sees a coat up close and personal it's difficult to make an educated evaluation. |
I just posted some pics of her on my account. I hope you are able to view the album and help me figure out her coat. Thanks |
4 Attachment(s) Tried again, and figured out how to put pics of her on this post! YAY! |
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WOW!!! Thanks. Must be years of experience to be able to just look at pics and be able to tell. Her hair does take a long time to grow. I only take her in to groomers to trim feet hair, clean ears and trim, and her 'potty' areas:eek: I haven't allowed the groomer to touch her hair because we want it to grow fairly long. Because of the way her hair is now, I find myself brushing her 1-2 times a day. Poor thing.....she seems to like it as long as we are relaxing on the couch together.:) Another thing I was curious about....her eyes seem to water alot. Is that common in this breed? |
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Thanks again. So, then a 'slow growing silk' would mean that her hair will always grow at a slow rate? Will her hair still have the ability to get long? |
It should but, will take a long time. I'm thinking you have this long coat that you see in pictures in your mind. But, you have to be realistic, those dogs are show dogs and so much care goes into getting them that long. Your baby is a pet. More than likely sleeping with you, allowed on furniture, carpet, grass, and as it should be. But, all those things contribute to coat breakage. |
I think long coats are very pretty and that is what I imagine a yorkie to have but I do know that a coat as long as a show dog would be insane for our pup. We are going to allow it to grow to about her knees (for now). Just as long as I can get it all even. :) I look at a lot of different possible cuts and can't find one yet that suits her personality. LOL. We have a Min Schnauzer that we like to grow his hair out as well. They are so beautiful. But at times we do end up cutting his hair short for one reason or another (usually if he gets something stuck in his hair or the groomer trims shorter than usual. |
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