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Nancy1999 04-08-2010 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3075523)
I will say I've been approaced by many pet owners asking why my their pets don't look like my dogs.....many of these pet owners based their decision on that cute little head. But, aren't all puppies cute?

Lol, exactly! This conversation has come full circle, and so that's why I give the advice to look at the parents, but maybe I should add, look at the grandparents too!

Woogie Man 04-08-2010 09:17 AM
Nancy, as per you last post to me, I know a lot of people love the 'baby doll' or whatever they call it...look. It is precious but now I see people advertising 'extreme baby doll' and stuff like that. I don't think the word 'extreme' should be used in describing most any Yorkie attribute. As a marketing term, it usually means someone has gone too far with a trait. I'd run from anyone using that word (extreme).

One thing about the very short faces. They do seem to have more dental issues than others. It's very hard to tell with a pup sometimes, though. Darla, in my avatar, has matured with a smaller face than she showed as a pup. It's not 'extreme' but is nicely proportioned. One other thing about the doll faces. Round eyes often accompany very short snouts. The breed standard calls for almond eyes and usually the snout follows through. I've never seen the 'very' short snout with almond eyes.

Mardelin 04-08-2010 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Woogie Man (Post 3075593)
Nancy, as per you last post to me, I know a lot of people love the 'baby doll' or whatever they call it...look. It is precious but now I see people advertising 'extreme baby doll' and stuff like that. I don't think the word 'extreme' should be used in describing most any Yorkie attribute. As a marketing term, it usually means someone has gone too far with a trait. I'd run from anyone using that word (extreme).

One thing about the very short faces. They do seem to have more dental issues than others. It's very hard to tell with a pup sometimes, though. Darla, in my avatar, has matured with a smaller face than she showed as a pup. It's not 'extreme' but is nicely proportioned. One other thing about the doll faces. Round eyes often accompany very short snouts. The breed standard calls for almond eyes and usually the snout follows through. I've never seen the 'very' short snout with almond eyes.
Got one of those very short snout babies....The boy in my avitar/Charmer....almond eyes....Now where that snout came from? but eyes are very correct.......As his sire is Ch Pastoral The Blues Are Back (Johnnie Handsome son) and dam Ch Firacres Ringside Gossip...

Nancy1999 04-08-2010 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Woogie Man (Post 3075593)
Nancy, as per you last post to me, I know a lot of people love the 'baby doll' or whatever they call it...look. It is precious but now I see people advertising 'extreme baby doll' and stuff like that. I don't think the word 'extreme' should be used in describing most any Yorkie attribute. As a marketing term, it usually means someone has gone too far with a trait. I'd run from anyone using that word (extreme).

One thing about the very short faces. They do seem to have more dental issues than others. It's very hard to tell with a pup sometimes, though. Darla, in my avatar, has matured with a smaller face than she showed as a pup. It's not 'extreme' but is nicely proportioned. One other thing about the doll faces. Round eyes often accompany very short snouts. The breed standard calls for almond eyes and usually the snout follows through. I've never seen the 'very' short snout with almond eyes.
Darla does have a gorgeous face! I've heard that yorkies under four pounds have more problems with dental, teeth are too crowded sometimes, I wonder if it has more to do with the fact that the snout is too short than overall weight?

Woogie Man 04-08-2010 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3075601)
Got one of those very short snout babies....The boy in my avitar/Charmer....almond eyes....Now where that snout came from? but eyes are very correct.......As his sire is Ch Pastoral The Blues Are Back (Johnnie Handsome son) and dam Ch Firacres Ringside Gossip...
Well, now you see, that's a new one for me. That's why YT is so great...we all learn new things. I can only say what's true for me and my experiences and it's great to talk with others with different ones. I had never noticed that about your avatar. It's hard to tell w/ small pics and I know my camera sometimes distorts things. For instance, my Heidi is very short bodied...not much loin...but I have a pic of her that makes her look part Dachshund LOL and another,taken the same day, that shows a truer proportion. Here they are...

Woogie Man 04-08-2010 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3075618)
Darla does have a gorgeous face! I've heard that yorkies under four pounds have more problems with dental, teeth are too crowded sometimes, I wonder if it has more to do with the fact that the snout is too short than overall weight?
Good question, and I'll defer to Mary about that. My own thinking, based on what I've seen is that it is the snout, more than the overall size of the dog, that could cause dental issues. It may run hand in hand somewhat, though. I've never seen a babydoll teapot :D.

Brooklynn 04-08-2010 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Woogie Man (Post 3075593)
Nancy, as per you last post to me, I know a lot of people love the 'baby doll' or whatever they call it...look. It is precious but now I see people advertising 'extreme baby doll' and stuff like that. I don't think the word 'extreme' should be used in describing most any Yorkie attribute. As a marketing term, it usually means someone has gone too far with a trait. I'd run from anyone using that word (extreme).

One thing about the very short faces. They do seem to have more dental issues than others. It's very hard to tell with a pup sometimes, though. Darla, in my avatar, has matured with a smaller face than she showed as a pup. It's not 'extreme' but is nicely proportioned. One other thing about the doll faces. Round eyes often accompany very short snouts. The breed standard calls for almond eyes and usually the snout follows through. I've never seen the 'very' short snout with almond eyes.
I showed a very nice bitch here for a client and she had a pretty short muzzle with the most beautiful almond shaped eyes and then I campaigned a bitch that had a longer muzzle with the biggest round eyes

Donna

Brooklynn 04-08-2010 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3075618)
Darla does have a gorgeous face! I've heard that yorkies under four pounds have more problems with dental, teeth are too crowded sometimes, I wonder if it has more to do with the fact that the snout is too short than overall weight?
I have Tucker is over 5 1/2 pounds with more of a dental problem than my 3 1/2 pound yorkie with a not so long muzzle but short and then Tucker and Brookie are the ones with the dental problem as in major tarter build up faster than any other yorkie I have and their teeth are wide set I make they have small gaps so their teeth are crowed....I believe it's genetic with the teeth/dental more so, I could be wrong lol

Woogie Man 04-08-2010 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Brooklynn (Post 3075664)
I showed a very nice bitch here for a client and she had a pretty short muzzle with the most beautiful almond shaped eyes and then I campaigned a bitch that had a longer muzzle with the biggest round eyes

Donna
Another example of someone having different experiences. It's things like this that broadens my horizon. Thanks, Donna :)

Nancy1999 04-08-2010 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Brooklynn (Post 3075676)
I have Tucker is over 5 1/2 pounds with more of a dental problem than my 3 1/2 pound yorkie with a not so long muzzle but short and then Tucker and Brookie are the ones with the dental problem as in major tarter build up faster than any other yorkie I have and their teeth are wide set I make they have small gaps so their teeth are crowed....I believe it's genetic with the teeth/dental more so, I could be wrong lol
With tarter it would always be more than one thing, they could have a genetic propensity to produce tartar, overcrowded teeth would make the problem worse, and then of course environmental factors such as dental hygiene and health/pregnancy could affect all that. It just seems like a lot of tinies have lost teeth before the age of 2 and that makes me wonder.

Brooklynn 04-08-2010 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3075691)
With tarter it would always be more than one thing, they could have a genetic propensity to produce tartar, overcrowded teeth would make the problem worse, and then of course environmental factors such as dental hygiene and health/pregnancy could affect all that. It just seems like a lot of tinies have lost teeth before the age of 2 and that makes me wonder.
Well Tucker has no problem with over crowding LOL and has never been pregnant or been used for breeding and he has a dental every 6 months simply because of tarter build up so badly.
Krissy is my smallest and still has all her adult teeth and has the least tarter build up and Brookie is her mother and Brookie has already lost a couple of teeth...now Harvey is another Brookie son and his teeth are like Krissy's not bad and still has his teeth but Tucker and Brookie are not related at all. Radar has nice teeth and the tarter doesn't build near as fast and he has a dental cleaning once a year. Of course they all are done by the vet.

Roccosmommy 04-08-2010 11:05 AM
I think Yorkie Mad's babies Ollie and Tia have the exact two looks you're talking about. Take a look at her pics...Ollie is the teddy bear look, and Tia is the pixie look, IMO.

nana911 04-08-2010 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by kjcmsw (Post 3069136)
I don't if these attached but Carly has the stubby nose and Gracie is more of the "fox -face"
~KC

Patti's "Pixie" looks almost exactly like my Baby, except Baby's eyes are a tad smaller and more almond shaped.

kjcmsw's "Gracie" is the spitting image of my Bug.

Now here is the kicker. They are sisters from the same litter. I know this to be true. I saw the entire litter when I first visited. It was the only litter in the house. Ironically, it turned out the breeder was a woman my DH knew from 40yrs back..yada yada yada... farming community.. what I mean is it wasn't a puppy mill, pet shop, internet... it was the same litter.. how the heck did that happen... breeders?? anyone?? bueller? bueller?


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