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CarolineH120 02-07-2010 05:18 PM
Sister is thinking Can she breed her Yorkie she is 8 1/2 years old.
 
Hey all
My sister is thinking can she breed her dog at this age?

MPlayman 02-07-2010 05:31 PM
Even if the dog has welped before 8.5 is too old. My question is why would she want to?

capt_noonie 02-07-2010 05:37 PM
I agree, too old.

livingdustmops 02-07-2010 05:40 PM
How many litters has she had?

lexipoo 02-07-2010 05:47 PM
I think that would be way to much stress on her at that age.
Hugs Cheryl & Lexi

carmen in nj 02-07-2010 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by CarolineH120 (Post 2993284)
Hey all
My sister is thinking can she breed her dog at this age?
She is WAY past her prime, I breed silky terriers and I retire my girls at 5.
is NO way that girl should be bred under any circumstances. VERY high risk of loosing her and the litter. Please let her know is a BIG NO NO.
hugs,
Carmen in nj

princessizzy 02-07-2010 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by carmen in nj (Post 2993336)
She is WAY past her prime, I breed silky terriers and I retire my girls at 5.
is NO way that girl should be bred under any circumstances. VERY high risk of loosing her and the litter. Please let her know is a BIG NO NO.
hugs,
Carmen in nj
I MUST agree!!!! Way to old to breed..This would be very unfair to her and WAY to stressfull... Sorry...but i just feel bad for dogs that are bred when they are to old

pinkii726 02-07-2010 06:11 PM
I won't say "old" because I don't want to be called old but she is over age for that now. So definately not, all dogs should be retired at 5. Too much stress even if they have welped before!

capt_noonie 02-07-2010 06:21 PM
Also to add, she needs to be spayed asap anyway to avoid getting mammary tumors and ovarian cancer and other cancers due to her not being spayed. Those diseases are pretty much totally prevented if spayed beforehand.

megooego 02-07-2010 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by capt_noonie (Post 2993383)
Also to add, she needs to be spayed asap anyway to avoid getting mammary tumors and ovarian cancer and other cancers due to her not being spayed. Those diseases are pretty much totally prevented if spayed beforehand.
:thumbup:

And I agree with everyone, she is too old to be used for breeding.

topknot 02-07-2010 06:26 PM
Just have her do the math - for every 1 year of life she is multiply that by 7 to give what it would be in people age. 7 x 8.5 = 59.5 years old. If I ever get pregnant at almost 60 - I think I would die!!

Alison Mc 02-07-2010 06:33 PM
Way too old!!:(

BamaFan121s 02-07-2010 06:35 PM
Well....your sister is wrong. Of course, physically, she probably CAN breed her, but it would be very unwise to do so. Dangerous for the female and not something that respectable breeders do.

MyLilReese 02-07-2010 08:09 PM
I have to agree with everyone else, and say she is past her prime, I would defiantely be too concerned for her and her health.

lil fu fu girl 02-07-2010 08:11 PM
Besides stating the obvious age issue again; I think my first question would be why does she want to?

JeanieK 02-07-2010 08:15 PM
Ask your sister to do some research on it and she will learn that this should not be done. She evidently has no idea that there is anything wrong with it. I'm sure she'll change her mind once she has the facts.

CarolineH120 02-08-2010 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by livingdustmops (Post 2993320)
How many litters has she had?
She hasnt had any litters thinkits her last in season, Do you not think she could have pups. Shes very fit yorkie and shes not a small yorkie.

Tnyorkiemom 02-08-2010 05:55 AM
im not one to say no just for age................BUT.............the fact that she has never been bred,..................she could throw bad or dead eggs............why put her through the breeding process ..........which can be stressful to some females anyways at this age..........just to be honest........her chances of getting preggy are very slim if she hasnt had a litter before.......also she has a higher risk of throwing pups if she does actually get preggy that are deformed or have serious health issues......so i also............which is strange cause i dont usually chime in on these things...........i also say NO for this situation.......you should find her a nice 2-3 year old female with a great blood line........help her research and go from there if she is really wanting to start breeding.............i have been researching and learning under a mentor for over 2 years now............and im still learning................good luck

CarolineH120 02-08-2010 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Tnyorkiemom (Post 2993813)
im not one to say no just for age................BUT.............the fact that she has never been bred,..................she could throw bad or dead eggs............why put her through the breeding process ..........which can be stressful to some females anyways at this age..........just to be honest........her chances of getting preggy are very slim if she hasnt had a litter before.......also she has a higher risk of throwing pups if she does actually get preggy that are deformed or have serious health issues......so i also............which is strange cause i dont usually chime in on these things...........i also say NO for this situation.......you should find her a nice 2-3 year old female with a great blood line........help her research and go from there if she is really wanting to start breeding.............i have been researching and learning under a mentor for over 2 years now............and im still learning................good luck
Many thanks for your comments
Ithink its really up to her by I think i get my sister to take her to the vet and check her over.

carmen in nj 02-08-2010 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by CarolineH120 (Post 2993806)
She hasnt had any litters thinkits her last in season, Do you not think she could have pups. Shes very fit yorkie and shes not a small yorkie.
ok, let me see how I can put this in very simple terms, Size does NOT matter, fit, does not matter, She is almost 9 years old, her bones are already fused specially her pelvic bones are not as flexible anymore,so she can concieve if her eggs are still viable,but her calcium levels are lower at after 5 which puts her at a very HIGH risk of develping eclampsia, she could conceive and then reasorbe the puppies due to malformations of the fetus due to age and lack of hormones needed to sustain a healthy pregnancy, and the list goes on and on, that is why GOOD breeders retire their bitches at 5, i have a friend who bred a 7 year old and got a litter of 7 with 4 still borns, it was heart wrenching. so PLEASE, don't do it.
but I think that she is already pregnant right?
best of luck if that is the case.
Carmen in nj

CarolineH120 02-08-2010 06:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by carmen in nj (Post 2993821)
ok, let me see how I can put this in very simple terms, Size does NOT matter, fit, does not matter, She is almost 9 years old, her bones are already fused specially her pelvic bones are not as flexible anymore,so she can concieve if her eggs are still viable,but her calcium levels are lower at after 5 which puts her at a very HIGH risk of develping eclampsia, she could conceive and then reasorbe the puppies due to malformations of the fetus due to age and lack of hormones needed to sustain a healthy pregnancy, and the list goes on and on, that is why GOOD breeders retire their bitches at 5, i have a friend who bred a 7 year old and got a litter of 7 with 4 still borns, it was heart wrenching. so PLEASE, don't do it.
but I think that she is already pregnant right?
best of luck if that is the case.
Carmen in nj
No she not pregnant sister is just looking into it but if its risky then she will not get her pregnant coz i know she would want to loss her or any pups.
Many thanks for your comment

ChantalB 02-08-2010 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by CarolineH120 (Post 2993824)
No she not pregnant sister is just looking into it but if its risky then she will not get her pregnant coz i know she would want to loss her or any pups.
Many thanks for your comment
I am so glad you won't breed her. I would be way to risky for the dog at that age and for the potential litter.

And by the way: " females dogs do not go through menopause though sometimes there may be a cessation in heat cycles for a period of time and then they can start back up again." So you should really get her spay.

WV~Yorkies 02-08-2010 09:28 AM
So glad she won't breed her. It is to old.

I was in the vet office a few years ago and they had a yorkie having pups in the waiting room. She had 3 when I was there and all born stillborn. When I went in to see the vet he told me the yorkie was 7 years old and was very upset they had breed her.

Sookie 02-08-2010 09:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by carmen in nj (Post 2993821)
ok, let me see how I can put this in very simple terms, Size does NOT matter, fit, does not matter, She is almost 9 years old, her bones are already fused specially her pelvic bones are not as flexible anymore,so she can concieve if her eggs are still viable,but her calcium levels are lower at after 5 which puts her at a very HIGH risk of develping eclampsia, she could conceive and then reasorbe the puppies due to malformations of the fetus due to age and lack of hormones needed to sustain a healthy pregnancy, and the list goes on and on, that is why GOOD breeders retire their bitches at 5, i have a friend who bred a 7 year old and got a litter of 7 with 4 still borns, it was heart wrenching. so PLEASE, don't do it.
but I think that she is already pregnant right?
best of luck if that is the case.
Carmen in nj
This is a great post!! :)

capt_noonie 02-08-2010 11:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by capt_noonie (Post 2993383)
Also to add, she needs to be spayed asap anyway to avoid getting mammary tumors and ovarian cancer and other cancers due to her not being spayed. Those diseases are pretty much totally prevented if spayed beforehand.
Am I wrong about this or something? I was told this was very important but I don't see anyone adding in more *better* facts or info.

Sookie 02-09-2010 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by capt_noonie (Post 2995155)
Am I wrong about this or something? I was told this was very important but I don't see anyone adding in more *better* facts or info.
If you have your female spayed before it goes into season for the first time it will have a nearly zero chance of getting mammary cancer. If you have her spayed after her first or subsequent heats she will still have a chance of getting cancer, but it is significantly less. It also lessens the chance of her having UTIs and reproductive tract issues. :)

clm56 02-10-2010 02:13 PM
~I retire my girls at 5 years old and than they get spayed. I don't know of any breeder that would breed an 8 1.2 year old. I would not put my moms in DANGER!!!!!! Or the Puppies for that matter. Any older than that isn't safe for mom or puppies. I would get her spayed....NOW!!! It would be like a 59-60 year old women getting pregnant. :eek: Please tell your sister how dangerous it is.

smartpuppiepets 02-11-2010 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by CarolineH120 (Post 2993824)
No she not pregnant sister is just looking into it but if its risky then she will not get her pregnant coz i know she would want to loss her or any pups.
Many thanks for your comment
Hummm... i will just add my opinion it may help you and your sister:

I would never, i mean : NEVER, try to breed any female older 6 even if she has had litters before or not, if she has excellent health or is the best show dog ever.

And i am answering for me, and at least 5 more experienced , very very experienced breeders in my own family. I learned a lot with my Late Grandma who had a large breed. I always heard and choose to spay or retire at 5 the most. No matter what breed .

I know many many breeders, of different breeds small, larger, all kinds. I never heard of anyone making plans to breed any female older than 6. Usually the plan is to retire by 5 , have the last litter at 5 or before ...

Explain all the reasons will be too long of an answer, but i hope it helps you help your sister !
XOXO

smartpuppiepets 02-11-2010 08:06 PM
Sorry for the 2 posts in a row...
Maybe you also need to check this thread:

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...ant-breed.html


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