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Wylie's Mom 12-14-2009 02:08 PM
Hello all - this thread has turned into a discussion that doesn't really pertain to Abrick's original question - but it is interesting nonetheless.

Since it's too late for me to effectively "split" the thread, I'd ask the original poster, Abrick, to post instead in the "Yorkies For Sale/Wanted" Section looking for breeder recommendations....and we let this discussion continue here for now. :)

Mardelin 12-14-2009 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by livingdustmops (Post 2915721)
I do. The two woman who fought for the Parti's via their pedigree's proved to the AKC by DNAing over 42 litters that these were Yorkies. AKC is all based on pedigree's and while no one knows for a fact what happened before all of those litters the same could be said for any purebred dog...along with the Yorkies. It was all done on trust in people who registered their litters. The line of dogs from these woman are probably more proven then most litters (lines) in the US of any breed.

If you go back and read AKC meetings you can read about this.
Not the complete story. There was more to it than that Some behind the scenes stuff went down........If you notice theboxes doesn't allow for the parti colors. You have to enter the 3-digit code that most closely describes your dog. You have to go to www.akcolors.org

Mardelin 12-14-2009 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 2915757)
Hello all - this thread has turned into a discussion that doesn't really pertain to Abrick's original question - but it is interesting nonetheless.

Since it's too late for me to effectively "split" the thread, I'd ask the original poster, Abrick, to post instead in the "Yorkies For Sale/Wanted" Section looking for breeder recommendations....and we let this discussion continue here for now. :)
Thanks Ann.....We'll be good

Wylie's Mom 12-14-2009 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 2915762)
Thanks Ann.....We'll be good
Lol :)! Took the words right outa my...:p

Mardelin 12-14-2009 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 2915764)
Lol :)! Took the words right outa my...:p
I know how to throw zingers in a way that people come back and say thank you.

livingdustmops 12-14-2009 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 2915760)
Not the complete story. There was more to it than that Some behind the scenes stuff went down........If you notice theboxes doesn't allow for the parti colors. You have to enter the 3-digit code that most closely describes your dog. You have to go to Akcolors.org - health Resources and Information.This website is for sale!
You are probably right ... I just gave a short cut answer as I understood from one of the original woman....maybe a Parti breeder can tell even more of the story. My interest was why do the Biewers and the Parti's look alike and trying to track down pedigree's.

livingdustmops 12-14-2009 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 2915762)
Thanks Ann.....We'll be good
I don't promise to be good...nah... nah...boo boo:)

What are you going to do to me Ann...:rolleyes: heehee

JeanieK 12-14-2009 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 2915760)
Not the complete story. There was more to it than that Some behind the scenes stuff went down........If you notice theboxes doesn't allow for the parti colors. You have to enter the 3-digit code that most closely describes your dog. You have to go to Akcolors.org - health Resources and Information.This website is for sale!
There was no behind the scene stuff. There is no color box for the goldens either, yet there is for the black and gold which is also NOW considered a color fault. The color numberfor the parti is 014. You have to send 2 photos of the puppy when registering and each one is handled individually.

Mardelin 12-14-2009 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by livingdustmops (Post 2915770)
You are probably right ... I just gave a short cut answer as I understood from one of the original woman....maybe a Parti breeder can tell even more of the story. My interest was why do the Biewers and the Parti's look alike and trying to track down pedigree's.
I was told the story by a previous YTCA President/AKC Delegate.....I'll have to go back and ask for a refresher, it's been a couple of years since I was told; round about when the DQ was put into place.

Wylie's Mom 12-14-2009 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 2915768)
I know how to throw zingers in a way that people come back and say thank you.
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Originally Posted by livingdustmops (Post 2915777)
I don't promise to be good...nah... nah...boo boo:)

What are you going to do to me Ann...:rolleyes: heehee
I have the biggest grin :D right now, LOL. You people are the best.

JeanieK 12-14-2009 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by livingdustmops (Post 2915770)
You are probably right ... I just gave a short cut answer as I understood from one of the original woman....maybe a Parti breeder can tell even more of the story. My interest was why do the Biewers and the Parti's look alike and trying to track down pedigree's.
There is another thread about this where one member has traced the parti back to the same dogs that produced the original Biewer pair.

livingdustmops 12-14-2009 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 2915630)
The breeds that showed to have problems werent even yorkies and you implied YTCA were having this problem where thats unproven and reaching. The only thing Ive seen the show breeders say is that they think partis should not be breed. If they are following the YTCA code of conduct they have to say that. I know you dont follow that and feel partis should be bred but you cant blame them for following the mother club code of conduct
:thumbup:

livingdustmops 12-14-2009 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2915814)
There is another thread about this where one member has traced the parti back to the same dogs that produced the original Biewer pair.
I am fully aware of what Deb has done and actually Debbie and I are working on a few things together...this was a number of years ago when I started my research.

TammyJM 12-14-2009 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 2915799)
I was told the story by a previous YTCA President/AKC Delegate.....I'll have to go back and ask for a refresher, it's been a couple of years since I was told; round about when the DQ was put into place.
How would the YTCA president know this...was she told by someone else that was told by someone else that was told by someone else.....get where I'm going here?? :rolleyes: I tend to go straight to the source when I want answers, not word of mouth. I will ask Loryn (CrownRidge Gems) and see what "behind the scenes you are talking about".

JeanieK 12-14-2009 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by livingdustmops (Post 2915830)
I am fully aware of what Deb has done and actually Debbie and I are working on a few things together...this was a number of years ago when I started my research.
Well then you have your answer. It's no mystery, no sneaking around behind the scenes.


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