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carmen in nj 12-10-2009 03:56 PM
How old is too old to sire a litter?
 
I am curious about this too, since my silky sire is going to be 7 next september..


Carmen can you post this question on the groups and forums you belong to?

I have searched all morning and cant find any information on:

How old is too old for my male to sire a litter?
My boy will be 8 years old when my new girl will be ready for her first breeding!I have concerns on his age. I don't want to run into any problems with him being too old and getting injured. He is a very healthy guy and had passed all his tests well, i had no problem with him ever. I would prefer my own male to sire our pups.

Any though's on the matter?

thanks,
Carmen in nj

Silkie Terriers and
Princess Prada My beloved Pet
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GurleyGirl 12-10-2009 04:44 PM
AKC states 12 years old. After that you would have to have proof that the sperm is still active.

You could check with your vet on his sperm counts if that concerns you.

carmen in nj 12-10-2009 05:04 PM
oh yes, I know what the AKC states, my friend is just concern about physical harm to her sire, I wonder the same, I had my sire sperm count tested before this litter and it is perfect..
thanks,
Carmen in nj

bjh 12-11-2009 07:45 AM
I found this on another website:

Quote:
Stud dogs are at their prime between 18 months and 4 years old (or 5), after that, the quality of the sperm starts to lessen, and the ability to penetrate eggs, lessens. By 10 years old, most stud dogs do not produce sperm that will impregnate a bitch.
The oldest male I have used for breeding sired pups when he was 8 years old. The main thing is to make sure the male is in excellent health. I think most breeders retire the males around 5 or 6 years old but I do know of some show breeders that use their males much longer than that. Some will even freeze the sperm for later use.

yorkiejunkie 12-11-2009 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by bjh (Post 2911540)
I found this on another website:



The oldest male I have used for breeding sired pups when he was 8 years old. The main thing is to make sure the male is in excellent health. I think most breeders retire the males around 5 or 6 years old but I do know of some show breeders that use their males much longer than that. Some will even freeze the sperm for later use.
Do you have more information on freezing sperm, that you could share? Here or pm. Thanks

bjh 12-11-2009 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by yorkiejunkie (Post 2911590)
Do you have more information on freezing sperm, that you could share? Here or pm. Thanks
I really don't have any first hand knowledge about it. Just what I have read on the internet. Here are is a couple of sites that have more information about it.

Camelot Farms -Semen Preservation System

Welcome To International Canine Semen Bank of Iowa

yorkiejunkie 12-11-2009 08:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bjh (Post 2911604)
I really don't have any first hand knowledge about it. Just what I have read on the internet. Here are is a couple of sites that have more information about it.

Camelot Farms -Semen Preservation System

Welcome To International Canine Semen Bank of Iowa
Thanks! :)

blondschilli 12-12-2009 10:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GurleyGirl (Post 2910941)
AKC states 12 years old. After that you would have to have proof that the sperm is still active.

You could check with your vet on his sperm counts if that concerns you.
Akc did write me back when I asked that question and yes they said 12 for males and 10years for females, but I think that is just to old.

jrsygal37 12-12-2009 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by blondschilli (Post 2913120)
Akc did write me back when I asked that question and yes they said 12 for males and 10years for females, but I think that is just to old.
10 years old for females is RIDICULOUS!! Imagine how they must feel at that age carrying around babies and then having to care for and nurse them. AKC seems to be about the money too.

I'd be interested to know the question as to how old for a sire. I never gave it a thought because I thought for a male it's not a big deal if he's taken care of. My new pups was sired by an old dog. And, they are still studding him and studding him a lot so I'd be interested to know what kind of toll that takes on the male at an old age. Elaine

YorkieRose 12-13-2009 07:16 PM
I used one of my boys at 12 yrs and got 4 females..it was his last litter..and he had not been bred in 4 yrs.
I like to retire a male at 8..but would use my own as long as I wanted...would not buy stud service from anything over 8..JMO


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