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Flower003 11-08-2009 07:41 AM
bottle feeding and handraising
 
Fiona is a great mother. She cleaned her babies and nursed them and refused to leave them for anything. This morning I woke up to the sound of one of the babies crying. Fiona was still nursing the puppies, but she was shaking. I waited about 30 mins until she was done nursing and she didnt' stop so I called the vet. I rushed her to emerencry vet and they tested her her calcium levels and it's too low. If everything goes well they say I amy be able to pick her up tonight around 11 pm.

Should i ask them to keep her longer?

I just got done bottle feeding one of the babies and I got him to pee. the other three wont take to the bottle what can do to get them to start sucking from the bottle? I am planning on taking the babie to the emergency vet when I pick fiona up. But If i can't get them to eat I might take them sooner.

Do I have to worry about the babies not surviving, I'm so scared. They're very healthing looking and fat.

I dont know exactly what I"m suppose to be doing, I dont know what the right question to ask are. Please just give me any advice you can for me to be able to raise these babies.

linda44 11-08-2009 07:54 AM
I think if you dont know what youre doing you need to go to the vet and let them show you how to tube feed the babes or your going to lose them. good luck.

Mardelin 11-08-2009 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Flower003 (Post 2872798)
Fiona is a great mother. She cleaned her babies and nursed them and refused to leave them for anything. This morning I woke up to the sound of one of the babies crying. Fiona was still nursing the puppies, but she was shaking. I waited about 30 mins until she was done nursing and she didnt' stop so I called the vet. I rushed her to emerencry vet and they tested her her calcium levels and it's too low. If everything goes well they say I amy be able to pick her up tonight around 11 pm.

Should i ask them to keep her longer?

I just got done bottle feeding one of the babies and I got him to pee. the other three wont take to the bottle what can do to get them to start sucking from the bottle? I am planning on taking the babie to the emergency vet when I pick fiona up. But If i can't get them to eat I might take them sooner.

Do I have to worry about the babies not surviving, I'm so scared. They're very healthing looking and fat.

I dont know exactly what I"m suppose to be doing, I dont know what the right question to ask are. Please just give me any advice you can for me to be able to raise these babies.
Try a bit a couple of NutriDrops on their gums....then add a bit of Karo on the nipple to entice. If that doesn't work, maybe your vet will teach you how to tube feed until the pups will readily accept the nipple.

Wend 11-08-2009 08:02 AM
The babies need to be fed every two hours and pottied and kept warm. What nipple are you using? What are you feeding in the bottle? Have you tried a dropper? Maybe the nipple is too big. I am glad you got momma to the vet.

chachi 11-08-2009 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Wend (Post 2872824)
The babies need to be fed every two hours and pottied and kept warm. What nipple are you using? What are you feeding in the bottle? Have you tried a dropper? Maybe the nipple is too big. I am glad you got momma to the vet.
Thats what I did with a kitten recently. It wouldnt feed out of the bottle so I used a droper. A syringe would work also

Flower003 11-08-2009 08:14 AM
The vet gave me two bottles and we are using esbilac. The babies are sleeping they've been sleepign since I've feed the only one that wanted to suck on the nipple. I don't think the other three are hungry. Maybe that's why they wont suck when I gave them the bottle. I'll wait another 40 mins and if they're not awake i'll go to the vet with them. that should be about 2.5 hours since momma last feed them.

Mardelin 11-08-2009 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Flower003 (Post 2872833)
The vet gave me two bottles and we are using esbilac. The babies are sleeping they've been sleepign since I've feed the only one that wanted to suck on the nipple. I don't think the other three are hungry. Maybe that's why they wont suck when I gave them the bottle. I'll wait another 40 mins and if they're not awake i'll go to the vet with them. that should be about 2.5 hours since momma last feed them.
Just make sure that you check their hydration......use an eye dropper or a syringe.....don't let them go very long without eating...in the beginning if your girl was feeding them....milk will only let down every 2 hours.

Flower003 11-08-2009 10:13 AM
Thank you for all the advice. I tried the bottle the vet gave me and I just got done bottle feeding the babies and stimulating them. it's hard to tell if the did urinate or not. I am so tired but I can't sleep, I'm just soo worried about everything and miss my little Fiona so much.

jeanietoo 11-08-2009 04:21 PM
Make sure to weigh them and chart the weights every day so you know if they are gaining. You need to get some sleep between feedings as it will be a very long couple of weeks. I hope you have someone to help you as it seems just when you are done one feeding it's time for the next. Just keep telling yourself it's only for maybe 3 weeks then they should be able to start lapping out of a saucer.

YorkieShadow 11-08-2009 05:06 PM
If the momma dog is still having some signs of the calcium defeciency you wont be able to put the pups on her. you will have to keep bottle feeding them, even if they let her come back home. or she will end up back the same. I know a lady who's momma dog is doing the same thing, she decided to put pups back on mom again and same thing happened , vet told her no more. now one pup has died.
you need to keep trying to get those babies to eat, keep them warm and help them to potty. or you will lose them.

YorkieShadow 11-08-2009 05:16 PM
I posted this on another thread for some one else that was bottle feeding her little one. so Ill just copy and paste it here for you.

when you bottle make sure the milk dosent come out of their nose? The milk should drip out slowly when the bottle is held upside down. If it runs out the pup could choke or aspirate (breath in) the milk. do not hold pup laying on its back and let it feed from bottle, make sure its always on its tummy. and never feed a cold pup.
I would also be giving this babies nutri drops.
Newborn puppies are not yet able to regulate their own body temperatures and feeding a cold puppy will do more harm than good as they can not digest it when cold. Keep puppy on a heating pad covered by a towel.. The puppy's temperature should be around 97 degrees. Never feed a puppy who is 94 degrees or lower.warm them up first.

please keep us updated on mom and pups.

Flower003 11-08-2009 09:57 PM
Mommy is home... I am so worried! I put in some baby cothing to cover her up so the babies can't nurse on her... \

Should I seperate them. I'm thinking about seperating them when I sleep. She's trying so hard to nurse them. I wish I could just make it all better.

The babies seem to be doing fine. What kinda stools should I be looking for in the puppies. I asked the vet and they basically says running is normal.

I've been using esbilac today but can I use just Born???

Mardelin 11-09-2009 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Flower003 (Post 2873753)
Mommy is home... I am so worried! I put in some baby cothing to cover her up so the babies can't nurse on her...

Should I seperate them. I'm thinking about seperating them when I sleep. She's trying so hard to nurse them. I wish I could just make it all better.

The babies seem to be doing fine. What kinda stools should I be looking for in the puppies. I asked the vet and they basically says running is normal.

I've been using esbilac today but can I use just Born???
The only time I put mom in with pups is when I could monitor.....I just made sure that they were kept warm, dry, fed and diapered.

Stools....not too runny kind of soft and moist is ok.

The best thing for hand feeding puppies is Goats Milk with equal parts of distilled water. It's the closests thing to mother's milk....No Just Born, it causes premature cataracs.......

Flower003 11-09-2009 06:16 AM
Should I let her stay with babies.... she's acting really weird... she carried all her toys to another room and I think she wants to move the babies there too??? I wont let her nurse... should i jsut let her do waht she wants??

The vet told me she didn't need any meds for her milk... should I demand some meds?

Mardelin 11-09-2009 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Flower003 (Post 2873904)
Should I let her stay with babies.... she's acting really weird... she carried all her toys to another room and I think she wants to move the babies there too??? I wont let her nurse... should i jsut let her do waht she wants??

The vet told me she didn't need any meds for her milk... should I demand some meds?
If she wants to stay with her babies...let her as long as she's not nursing. Keep on eye on her to make sure that she's not having another episode and her breast aren't getting to filled....if they are you may have to release some of the pressure.....did you ask the vet for a dry up shot?


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