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starstella92 11-08-2009 07:23 AM
Is Maya's temperature too low???
 
**I actually just posted this in a previous thread of mine as a response, but figured I'd get more advice by just creating a new thread that people will be able to see easily.**
I just checked her temp again and it read 97.7; I checked a second time to be sure and yes still 97.7. Wow! :eek: That's really low, is it too low? I've never heard of a temp. dropping that low. She's not acting any differently (other than the pre-labor signs she's been showing for the past several days). ??? Yikes! Let me give you her temp. history this past week. We started checking on Monday like twice a day, it started at around 100.8 and fluctuated between that and 100.2 until around Wednesday or Thursday when it dropped to around 99.5-99.6. It went between the 99's to 100's until Friday afternoon, when it has stayed between 98.9- 99.4. Now this morning (this is after she ate, mind you), it's the 97.7. Has anyone else had a dog's temp. drop so low before????:confused:

Mardelin 11-08-2009 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by starstella92 (Post 2872780)
**I actually just posted this in a previous thread of mine as a response, but figured I'd get more advice by just creating a new thread that people will be able to see easily.**
I just checked her temp again and it read 97.7; I checked a second time to be sure and yes still 97.7. Wow! :eek: That's really low, is it too low? I've never heard of a temp. dropping that low. She's not acting any differently (other than the pre-labor signs she's been showing for the past several days). ??? Yikes! Let me give you her temp. history this past week. We started checking on Monday like twice a day, it started at around 100.8 and fluctuated between that and 100.2 until around Wednesday or Thursday when it dropped to around 99.5-99.6. It went between the 99's to 100's until Friday afternoon, when it has stayed between 98.9- 99.4. Now this morning (this is after she ate, mind you), it's the 97.7. Has anyone else had a dog's temp. drop so low before????:confused:
Yep! It's getting to a dangerously low point. I'd contact your vet.

starstella92 11-08-2009 07:36 AM
So yeah, I just checked again. The third time in five minutes and now it's 98.6. ??? I don't know why such a difference, but hopefully it'll remain here.

Mardelin 11-08-2009 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by starstella92 (Post 2872792)
So yeah, I just checked again. The third time in five minutes and now it's 98.6. ??? I don't know why such a difference, but hopefully it'll remain here.
Dropping below 97 is an indication something is seriously wrong....possibly going into shock....Keep a close eye on her.

starstella92 11-08-2009 08:02 AM
Yikes. Okay, will do; makes me wonder if maybe my thermometer was acting up. ??? Right now she's taken a little stuffed toy of hers and is hiding out next to her whelping box in the closet now (not in it). She's seems to be pretty protective of it likes it's one of her babies, it's really strange. I'm guessing her maternal instinct is just kicking in before delivery? Should I take it away? Let her be? Is she about to whelp?

Wend 11-08-2009 08:06 AM
Could you have taken the temp of her stool? I have done that before.

Mardelin 11-08-2009 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by starstella92 (Post 2872822)
Yikes. Okay, will do; makes me wonder if maybe my thermometer was acting up. ??? Right now she's taken a little stuffed toy of hers and is hiding out next to her whelping box in the closet now (not in it). She's seems to be pretty protective of it likes it's one of her babies, it's really strange. I'm guessing her maternal instinct is just kicking in before delivery? Should I take it away? Let her be? Is she about to whelp?
Let her be. But, I would confine her to an area where you can watch her. You should get your pregnant female used to staying a confined aea as her whelping time approaches and when you cannot watch her activities regularly. Otherwise, she may make her nest where you cannot find it or have her puppies all over the place so that they can become chilled and die. Do get her used to the area that you set up for her to have puppies and nurse them, a whelping box that is low enough for her to get in and out of easily but not so low the pups can roll out and chill. Choose an area that is draft free and away from heavy people traffic. Tape heavy towling or sheepskin to the bottom of the box with duct tape rolled so it is sticky on both sides. If you don't, the mother may paw up the pads and accidently smother or jump on a pup and injure it.

starstella92 11-08-2009 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 2872827)
Let her be. But, I would confine her to an area where you can watch her. You should get your pregnant female used to staying a confined aea as her whelping time approaches and when you cannot watch her activities regularly. Otherwise, she may make her nest where you cannot find it or have her puppies all over the place so that they can become chilled and die. Do get her used to the area that you set up for her to have puppies and nurse them, a whelping box that is low enough for her to get in and out of easily but not so low the pups can roll out and chill. Choose an area that is draft free and away from heavy people traffic. Tape heavy towling or sheepskin to the bottom of the box with duct tape rolled so it is sticky on both sides. If you don't, the mother may paw up the pads and accidently smother or jump on a pup and injure it.
We have had her whelping box in the closet this past week- two weeks. We chose the closet because it's not an area that was foreign to her at all, quiet and away from everything, and there aren't any vents or windows nearby to cause any drafts. She is used to spending time there with her box, as we've introduced it to her early on. Right now I can actually hear her panting and digging. I don't want her to deliver the pups outside the box and she doesn't seem to want to go in there. Should I just let her whelp where she wants? I'm nervous now.

Wend 11-08-2009 08:16 AM
I would put her in the box and sit in front of it and try to calm her and convince her to stay in. It sounds like she is definitely in labor.

bjh 11-08-2009 08:20 AM
Has your girl eaten much food this morning? Low blood sugar would cause her to run a unusually low temperature. You could give he a little Nutri-cal if she is not eating well. I pray you have a safe whelping.

starstella92 11-08-2009 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by bjh (Post 2872839)
Has your girl eaten much food this morning? Low blood sugar would cause her to run a unusually low temperature. You could give he a little Nutri-cal if she is not eating well. I pray you have a safe whelping.
Yes actually, she did eat a decent amount of food this morning. She's not one to pass on her meals, which makes me wonder why she would be in labor (if she is). I thought they lost their appetites; she still had hers this morning. But I did notice about a couple of minutes ago, that she kinda gagged a bit. She didn't throw up, but just gagged only once.

Mardelin 11-08-2009 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by starstella92 (Post 2872835)
We have had her whelping box in the closet this past week- two weeks. We chose the closet because it's not an area that was foreign to her at all, quiet and away from everything, and there aren't any vents or windows nearby to cause any drafts. She is used to spending time there with her box, as we've introduced it to her early on. Right now I can actually hear her panting and digging. I don't want her to deliver the pups outside the box and she doesn't seem to want to go in there. Should I just let her whelp where she wants? I'm nervous now.
No, you shouldn't let her whelp where she wants......Make sure that it's in a convenient place for you to assist her in the whelping process.....

Mardelin 11-08-2009 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by starstella92 (Post 2872840)
Yes actually, she did eat a decent amount of food this morning. She's not one to pass on her meals, which makes me wonder why she would be in labor (if she is). I thought they lost their appetites; she still had hers this morning. But I did notice about a couple of minutes ago, that she kinda gagged a bit. She didn't throw up, but just gagged only once.
My girls eat right up until the time they go into labor......each girl is different.

bjh 11-08-2009 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by starstella92 (Post 2872840)
Yes actually, she did eat a decent amount of food this morning. She's not one to pass on her meals, which makes me wonder why she would be in labor (if she is). I thought they lost their appetites; she still had hers this morning. But I did notice about a couple of minutes ago, that she kinda gagged a bit. She didn't throw up, but just gagged only once.
All females are different. I have had females eat a nice meal and then go into labor. Often they will start throwing up when the labor starts and they will usually have several bowel movements. It sounds like she is getting close.

Mom2TwoYorkies 11-08-2009 09:34 AM
I just wanted to add that your whelping box is very nice! :D

blancla 11-08-2009 10:11 AM
I hope everything is alright. It sounds like you are going to have puppies by tonight.

starstella92 11-08-2009 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Mom2TwoYorkies (Post 2872933)
I just wanted to add that your whelping box is very nice! :D
Thanks! I had my boyfriend build it just for her! :)
And as far as having puppies tonight, I don't know. She's fooled us already, she'll probably do it again. Right now, she's still spending most of her time in the closet. She's now adopted two stuffed animals and has a little "nest" set up there. She's taking excellent care of the toys, hopefully she'll be able to do the same for her babies, lol. She's only panting here and there now. Other than that, that's all that going on, other than her temp. being low. ??? We can only hope.

luckylady 11-08-2009 11:17 AM
Halle had several of the signs you speak of during the night before she had little Oscar; nesting especially & gagging once. The next morning she seemed a little "off", but still ate most of her breakfast. By 9am we could tell she was in early labor with constant pacing, unable to stay in one place for long and frequent trips to the potty pad to TRY to potty. She had her puppy about 2pm that afternoon.
Sounds to me that she might not be fooling you this time. Good luck to you both.

WV~Yorkies 11-08-2009 01:01 PM
Ok I am confused.. I thought a temp below 98 was a sign of labor. I got that from Debbie Jenson's website.

starstella92 11-08-2009 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by WV~Yorkies (Post 2873141)
Ok I am confused.. I thought a temp below 98 was a sign of labor. I got that from Debbie Jenson's website.
??? I remember reading that on her site too, but that's the only place I'd seen it; I guess I figured it was a typo.
Now for an update, it's still pretty much the same as this morning. Just a little while ago she was licking herself for a while, so I checked it to see some discharge/liquid coming out. There was even a little wet spot left behind on the carpet. Now, I don't know if this is her water breaking or not, because it was hardly more than a small spot on the carpet. Since then, she's gone back to the closet, dug around in some blankets I have in there, and now she's just napping.

bjh 11-08-2009 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by starstella92 (Post 2873146)
??? I remember reading that on her site too, but that's the only place I'd seen it; I guess I figured it was a typo.
Now for an update, it's still pretty much the same as this morning. Just a little while ago she was licking herself for a while, so I checked it to see some discharge/liquid coming out. There was even a little wet spot left behind on the carpet. Now, I don't know if this is her water breaking or not, because it was hardly more than a small spot on the carpet. Since then, she's gone back to the closet, dug around in some blankets I have in there, and now she's just napping.
I do hope you have her setup in a area where you can help her whelp. I always whelp my litters in a big wicker dog bed that I sit on our bed. If she is in a closet it will not be easy for you to help her whelp. I never let a momma cut the cords herself. Also, you can monitor how the labor is going if you are sitting right there with her and watching her contractions.

starstella92 11-08-2009 01:34 PM
Oh yes, our closet is very roomy; I could fit a small bed in there if I needed to. I've made sure that it's very accessible. :) And I have everything ready, especially the tools needed to cut the cords- two hemostats, alcohol for sterilizing equipment, bedatine for end of umbilical cord, scissors, sutures to tie off the cords (which my vet recommended since they're sterilized). I've got lots of towels, unprinted newsprint, heating pads, a box to transfer puppy(ies) while momma is delivering another puppy. And I'll also have the whelping pudding on hand for Maya when whelping is done. I've got my clock in the room, scale, notepad and pens for taking down weights and times born. I can't think of anything I'm missing for now. I think we're pretty ready for this show to get on the road. :) C'mon Maya, we're waiting...

bjh 11-08-2009 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by starstella92 (Post 2873181)
Oh yes, our closet is very roomy; I could fit a small bed in there if I needed to. I've made sure that it's very accessible. :) And I have everything ready, especially the tools needed to cut the cords- two hemostats, alcohol for sterilizing equipment, bedatine for end of umbilical cord, scissors, sutures to tie off the cords (which my vet recommended since they're sterilized). I've got lots of towels, unprinted newsprint, heating pads, a box to transfer puppy(ies) while momma is delivering another puppy. And I'll also have the whelping pudding on hand for Maya when whelping is done. I've got my clock in the room, scale, notepad and pens for taking down weights and times born. I can't think of anything I'm missing for now. I think we're pretty ready for this show to get on the road. :) C'mon Maya, we're waiting...
It does sound like you are prepared. Come on Maya.:)

blancla 11-08-2009 01:55 PM
Good luck you to you. I pray that everything goes well.

Mardelin 11-08-2009 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by WV~Yorkies (Post 2873141)
Ok I am confused.. I thought a temp below 98 was a sign of labor. I got that from Debbie Jenson's website.
When i goes under 99 degrees and remains in the 98 to 999 degree range for twenty-four hours, it is a good indication that whelping time is very close. This doesn't mean that your bitch won't start labor at 100 or 99 degrees. I've had girls that their temp never drops.

WV~Yorkies 11-08-2009 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 2873262)
When i goes under 99 degrees and remains in the 98 to 999 degree range for twenty-four hours, it is a good indication that whelping time is very close. This doesn't mean that your bitch won't start labor at 100 or 99 degrees. I've had girls that their temp never drops.
Thanks for clearing that up for me. :thumbup:

starstella92 11-08-2009 06:47 PM
Still no signs of labor over here, but she's quite attached to her stuffed monkey. She's been pacing back and forth with it. Weird.

blancla 11-08-2009 06:53 PM
I am headed to bed for the night. I hope that everything goes well for you. Try to get some rest if you can.

sunshinnes 11-08-2009 07:18 PM
hi.. I don't know anything about this but I am so intrigued and ready to see what happens next... come on sweetheart you can do it!!!! ;)


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