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starstella92 11-07-2009 05:13 PM
Aw, how wonderful! I'm so happy for you guys! I look forward to hearing all about it later on when the whelping is done. :)

blancla 11-07-2009 05:15 PM
Congrats. I hope everything continues to go well.

pheonix 11-07-2009 05:44 PM
We were worried for a bit that mom was getting carried away with the pup. There was some blood from the umbiluical cord and Tiff was getting very aggressive. We were concerned mom might hurt the pup. I took the pup away for a couple of minutes and changed the bedding in the box and mom slowly calmed down. The pup fed well and both are now more relaxed.Bye the way it is a girl . Tiff is panting a lot now but no further contractions yet. Can still feel the pups inside her moving...Though Tiffany is a bit touchy about us getting too close now!

Lilyshuman 11-07-2009 05:47 PM
How exciting! Keep us posted I'm am watching with bated breath!

pheonix 11-07-2009 05:51 PM
oops I spoke too soon! Here we go again with more contractions

Mardelin 11-07-2009 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by pheonix (Post 2872296)
oops I spoke too soon! Here we go again with more contractions
You can stop the bleeding on the umbilical cord with silver nitrate stic if you have it.....

Don't let her do the work the next time....there is a chance she can pull the intestines out.....Her ingesting the placenta is going to give a case of diarreah. Get the first pup dried off and warm......Good Luck

pheonix 11-07-2009 06:15 PM
The second one is a male. She was having trouble severing the cord so we cut this one. Everything progressing nicely!

Mardelin 11-07-2009 06:18 PM
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The second one is a male. She was having trouble severing the cord so we cut this one. Everything progressing nicely!
You need to intervine and cut the cord yourself.....Less chance of her getting too close and pulling intestines.

starstella92 11-07-2009 06:32 PM
Two babies! Did you know how many you were expecting? I can't remember. Regardless, this is exciting!

pheonix 11-07-2009 06:56 PM
The vet thought there was 4 I only saw 3 there is definatly 1 more for sure that I could feel. Tiffis being a tad protective so I am not going pus yet. She much calmer with the second one than she was with the first.I am giving the mom a little water to lick off my finger and few little bits of cheese The first pup has really got the hang of this nursing now! mom is concentrating on cleaning the 2nd pup now so he is having a hard time holding on to a teat right now. But he has had a bit of milk. We will make sure he gets more later

pheonix 11-07-2009 07:05 PM
3rd pup is born with very short umbilical cord. I am unable to get to it to cut it. We will try and keep mom quiet till placenta is born. Mom is getting tired

pheonix 11-07-2009 07:47 PM
we got the cord cut and used a hemostat to clamp the puppy side. sutured it with thread and the pup is back with mom. Unfortunatly the placenta side got away and is in mom right now. we are watching for the delivery of this placenta. well 3rd pup is doing ok so far. Was worried because he got a bit cool. tried to keep him warm while we worked and mom was all over him when we put him back with her. With all the licking she has bee doing and moving around I have not been able to tell if she delivered the last placenta yet. Will have to keep close eye on mom!

pheonix 11-07-2009 07:50 PM
so far the score is 1 female and 2 male pups all seem to be doing fine so far.I on the other hand am a wreck!

Mardelin 11-07-2009 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by pheonix (Post 2872475)
we got the cord cut and used a hemostat to clamp the puppy side. sutured it with thread and the pup is back with mom. Unfortunatly the placenta side got away and is in mom right now. we are watching for the delivery of this placenta. well 3rd pup is doing ok so far. Was worried because he got a bit cool. tried to keep him warm while we worked and mom was all over him when we put him back with her. With all the licking she has bee doing and moving around I have not been able to tell if she delivered the last placenta yet. Will have to keep close eye on mom!
It's best if you can get her in to the vets in the Morning for an Oxytocin Shot....that will eliminate any fear of her retaining a placenta and causing infection that can kill her. Also it will help bring in her milk.

Try a warm blow dryer on the pup to get it warm.

For mom, if you have Goats Milk on hand....1 12 oz can with equal parts of water, 1 tablespoon of Karo and 1 egg yolk well beaten.....this will perk her up right away.

Good Luck, I know you're tired, but your night is not over yet....

pheonix 11-07-2009 08:50 PM
Well the third placenta is accounted for! It was delivered and eaten faster than I could say whew! If you are able to limit the # of placentas the mom can eat then my hat is off to you! When nothing more seemed to happen we palpated Tiffany's abdomen and found no trace of another pup. Mom has eaten a bit more cheese, drank some water and then ate some premium moist puppy food. She is looking very alert now and the pups are feeding fine. I have changed the bedding and moved them into their crate for the night and covered them up! I am quite please with Tiffany and want to thank Linda my wife for all the help she gave me. This was quite an experience! I wouldnt have missed it for anything. Very draining though.Now we clean all the sheets from our bed.


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